Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-10 Thread Sandro red Mathys
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:26, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 15:39 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:

 I don't see how it can be a go if Live doesn't work without
 enforcing=0:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863

 I'm surprised RC3 was rushed so quickly with no resoution to this.  I
 expect an RC4 will be necessary.

 We're working on that. The reason RC3 was spun was because we thought it
 was solved with an selinux-policy update that was included in RC3. This
 is all documented in the bug.

True, it is documented in the bug - but not as you state here. The
latest selinux-policy was in RC2 already and I had it tested within
~2h after the announcement. The result was clearly, that the issue at
hand was not yet fixed (see comment #10). There have been no changes
on this front before RC3 was released, so no chance of having it
fixed.

Just trying to correct the impression here, but I'm sure there's been
reasons for RC3 on another front (libreport or so). Actually, I think
RCs were spun too early and more TCs had been necessary - but that's
mostly a naming thing so never mind.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:00 +0200, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:26, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 15:39 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 
  I don't see how it can be a go if Live doesn't work without
  enforcing=0:
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863
 
  I'm surprised RC3 was rushed so quickly with no resoution to this.  I
  expect an RC4 will be necessary.
 
  We're working on that. The reason RC3 was spun was because we thought it
  was solved with an selinux-policy update that was included in RC3. This
  is all documented in the bug.
 
 True, it is documented in the bug - but not as you state here. The
 latest selinux-policy was in RC2 already and I had it tested within
 ~2h after the announcement. The result was clearly, that the issue at
 hand was not yet fixed (see comment #10). There have been no changes
 on this front before RC3 was released, so no chance of having it
 fixed.
 
 Just trying to correct the impression here, but I'm sure there's been
 reasons for RC3 on another front (libreport or so). Actually, I think
 RCs were spun too early and more TCs had been necessary - but that's
 mostly a naming thing so never mind.

RC3 was done quickly to correct a single obvious mistake in RC2 - an
update RC2 should have included was left out - so we didn't really do a
full survey of other bugs to check if there were more issues. RC3 is
really just 'what RC2 was meant to be'.

There's a clear distinction between TCs and RCs. RCs happen post-freeze
and can only be RCs if all confirmed blockers are addressed when they're
produced (when we've decided to spin an image post-freeze, during 'RC
time', but with known blockers remaining, we've called it a TC). This
was the case for RC2 (and RC1); it just turns out the apparent fix for
one blocker did not actually fix it. As described above we didn't
technically follow the strict letter of this policy for RC3, but there's
a reason for that (also see above). =) We have no precedent for going
backwards from RCs to TCs, either, so really the other choice would have
been not to spin an RC3 to fix the obvious bug in RC2 at all, which
doesn't seem like a better plan.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-10 Thread He Rui
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
 skip
 Security Lab:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test
 

Thanks Andre. I noticed the security lab test page doesn't contain a
link to the spins for testing ever since TC1 cycle. Anyone knows please
add the url to the above run page so that others can test? 


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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-10 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 08/10/2011 11:16 AM, He Rui wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
 skip
 Security Lab:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test


 Thanks Andre. I noticed the security lab test page doesn't contain a
 link to the spins for testing ever since TC1 cycle. Anyone knows please
 add the url to the above run page so that others can test?


Yes, currently Security Lab SPIN ISO are not yet available at RC3 stage 
(the same is for other no-desktop SPIN and LXDE spin) [1]

I'll run Security Spin testing as soon as the iso will be available.

[1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16-Alpha.RC3/Live/x86_64/

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 11:25 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
 On 08/10/2011 11:16 AM, He Rui wrote:
  On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
  skip
  Security Lab:
 
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test
 
 
  Thanks Andre. I noticed the security lab test page doesn't contain a
  link to the spins for testing ever since TC1 cycle. Anyone knows please
  add the url to the above run page so that others can test?
 
 
 Yes, currently Security Lab SPIN ISO are not yet available at RC3 stage 
 (the same is for other no-desktop SPIN and LXDE spin) [1]
 
 I'll run Security Spin testing as soon as the iso will be available.
 
 [1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16-Alpha.RC3/Live/x86_64/

Spins beyond desktop, KDE, XFCE, LXDE don't usually get built at this
stage; what you can do is nominate a nightly build to serve as the RC,
but that may not work great at the moment since fixes being pushed into
the RC don't seem to be making it to public mirrors (I think there
hasn't been a tree compose).
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
 As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3
 (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
 download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
 images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
 for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
 as that for install images, except with the trailing /Fedora/ replaced
 by /Live/.

The only difference between RC2 and RC3 is that RC3 includes the
libreport update which fixes
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692433 - reporting anaconda
failures. Given the tight time before go/no-go tomorrow, I suggest we
combine RC2 and RC3 test results: for RC3, please focus on testing
things that haven't yet been filled in in the RC2 matrices, so between
RC2 and RC3 we have all Alpha tests covered. And, of course, re-do the
tests which hit 692433 in RC2 - most importantly,
QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla . Thanks everyone!
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-09 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 10:05:54AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
  As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3
  (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
  download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
  images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
  for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
  as that for install images, except with the trailing /Fedora/ replaced
  by /Live/.
 
 The only difference between RC2 and RC3 is that RC3 includes the
 libreport update which fixes
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692433 - reporting anaconda
 failures. Given the tight time before go/no-go tomorrow, I suggest we
 combine RC2 and RC3 test results: for RC3, please focus on testing
 things that haven't yet been filled in in the RC2 matrices, so between
 RC2 and RC3 we have all Alpha tests covered. And, of course, re-do the
 tests which hit 692433 in RC2 - most importantly,
 QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla . Thanks everyone!

I don't see how it can be a go if Live doesn't work without
enforcing=0:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863

I'm surprised RC3 was rushed so quickly with no resoution to this.  I
expect an RC4 will be necessary.
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