Re: 2014-11-12 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 05:42 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: If I have understood the remaining problem well when skimming that bug, there is a delay before rebooting/shutting down. I agree that's inconvenient, but it doesn't seem to violate any of our criteria. On my system shutdown often just never succeeds, and I have to force power off. It's pretty bad, but I've been reluctant to file a blocker bug while the existing report is such a mess and I never have time to debug my specific case of the problem in more detail. Try sending TERM signal using SysRq (alt+sysrq+e, you might need to hit alt+sysrq+r first). It works great for me. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: 2014-11-12 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 06:54 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 05:42 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: If I have understood the remaining problem well when skimming that bug, there is a delay before rebooting/shutting down. I agree that's inconvenient, but it doesn't seem to violate any of our criteria. On my system shutdown often just never succeeds, and I have to force power off. It's pretty bad, but I've been reluctant to file a blocker bug while the existing report is such a mess and I never have time to debug my specific case of the problem in more detail. Try sending TERM signal using SysRq (alt+sysrq+e, you might need to hit alt+sysrq+r first). It works great for me. Doesn't help here, IIRC. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: 2014-11-12 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 05:42 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: If I have understood the remaining problem well when skimming that bug, there is a delay before rebooting/shutting down. I agree that's inconvenient, but it doesn't seem to violate any of our criteria. On my system shutdown often just never succeeds, and I have to force power off. It's pretty bad, but I've been reluctant to file a blocker bug while the existing report is such a mess and I never have time to debug my specific case of the problem in more detail. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: 2014-11-12 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
Hi, I'd like add https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 as blocker to release 21 . Please read last comments #95 still #101 Hello, you can always do that using https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug However, that bug is quite a mess. When proposing as a blocker, it would be a good idea to create a new, concise one dealing with exactly one problem, instead of several problems merged in a single report. Or, at least, the explanation provided when proposing that blocker should be really descriptive, summarizing what the problem is, what the impact is and what needs to be done to resolve it. If I have understood the remaining problem well when skimming that bug, there is a delay before rebooting/shutting down. I agree that's inconvenient, but it doesn't seem to violate any of our criteria. Usually blockers are bugs which are very severe or can't be fixed post-release in a reasonable way. This can be fixed post-release. Because this bug is present for a very long time (I've seen it numerous times myself), it's questionable whether we should hold Fedora 21 release because of it. Either it's not easy to fix, or nobody cares too much about it. Probably the former in this case. And, the blocker process should not serve as a whip for developers do finally something about this!. So, there's a high chance this would get rejected. But, if you feel this really is a release blocker material, feel free to propose it. Just please provide a reasonable summary, as described. Thanks for helping out with Fedora QA! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
2014-11-12 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
== #fedora-blocker-review: F21-blocker-review == Meeting started by roshi at 16:03:53 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-11-12/f21-blocker-review.2014-11-12-16.03.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Roll Call (roshi, 16:03:53) * (1161779) System fails to boot with rootfs on iSCSI - missing kernel parameters (roshi, 16:07:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161779 (roshi, 16:07:33) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (roshi, 16:07:36) * AGREED: - 1161779 - AcceptedBlocker - This is a clear violation of the Final criteria: The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and install to supported network-attached storage devices. (roshi, 16:14:04) * (1162215) LV resize does not check filesystem minimum size (roshi, 16:14:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1162215 (roshi, 16:14:09) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (roshi, 16:14:10) * AGREED: - 11662215 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug is a clear violation of the Final criterion: Any installer mechanism for resizing storage volumes must correctly attempt the requested operation. (roshi, 16:25:09) * (1158442) Gnome-initial-setup window doesn't fit to visible with small resolution (roshi, 16:25:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158442 (roshi, 16:26:02) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, MODIFIED (roshi, 16:26:05) * AGREED: - 1158442 - Punt - We're going to wait to decide on this pending discussion and testing of an existing fix. (roshi, 16:37:26) * (986731) Dual boot of uefi Windows 7 and Fedora 19 fails to boot Windows (roshi, 16:37:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986731 (roshi, 16:37:45) * Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (roshi, 16:37:47) * AGREED: - 986731 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be reproducible on F21. If it is, please update the bug and reproduce. (roshi, 16:42:24) * (1103496) Installer interface sometimes freezes for a while (but install continues, and screen eventually unfreezes) (roshi, 16:42:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103496 (roshi, 16:42:30) * Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (roshi, 16:42:33) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria#Data_corruption (kparal, 16:58:43) * AGREED: - 1103496 - AcceptedBlocker - This is a conditional violation of the Final Data Corruption criterion since it creates the opportunity of data loss to the user (by making them think the install has hung and the user restarts the machine mid-install). (roshi, 17:02:22) * (1144613) [abrt] gnome-tweak-tool: gtk_tree_row_ref_deleted(): python2.7 killed by SIGSEGV (roshi, 17:02:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144613 (roshi, 17:02:40) * Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (roshi, 17:02:43) * AGREED: - 1144613 - RejectedBlocker - The GNOME tweak tool is not a default application for the Workstation product, so this is not considered a blocker. (roshi, 17:10:09) * (1147670) keyboard layout chooser switches letters while typing (roshi, 17:10:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147670 (roshi, 17:10:21) * Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (roshi, 17:10:24) * AGREED: - 1147670 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This bug is difficult to reproduce and it seems to be very system-dependant. Accepting as an FE because if you do hit it, it would be pretty obnoxious. Repropose if more solid reproduction steps can be found or there is a concrete system on which it is quite difficult to perform Fedora installation. (roshi, 17:43:49) * (1158968) AttributeError: 'DMRaidArrayDevice' object has no attribute 'formatClass' (roshi, 17:44:00) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158968 (roshi, 17:44:03) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED (roshi, 17:44:05) * AGREED: - 1158968 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug is a violation of the Beta Criterion: The installer must be able to detect and install to hardware or firmware RAID storage devices. (roshi, 17:56:13) * (1130794) Missing high contrast icon (roshi, 17:56:21) *
Re: 2014-11-12 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting Minutes
Hi, I'd like add https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 as blocker to release 21 . Please read last comments #95 still #101 On Qua, 2014-11-12 at 11:26 -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote: == #fedora-blocker-review: F21-blocker-review == Meeting started by roshi at 16:03:53 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-11-12/f21-blocker-review.2014-11-12-16.03.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Roll Call (roshi, 16:03:53) * (1161779) System fails to boot with rootfs on iSCSI - missing kernel parameters (roshi, 16:07:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161779 (roshi, 16:07:33) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (roshi, 16:07:36) * AGREED: - 1161779 - AcceptedBlocker - This is a clear violation of the Final criteria: The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and install to supported network-attached storage devices. (roshi, 16:14:04) * (1162215) LV resize does not check filesystem minimum size (roshi, 16:14:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1162215 (roshi, 16:14:09) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (roshi, 16:14:10) * AGREED: - 11662215 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug is a clear violation of the Final criterion: Any installer mechanism for resizing storage volumes must correctly attempt the requested operation. (roshi, 16:25:09) * (1158442) Gnome-initial-setup window doesn't fit to visible with small resolution (roshi, 16:25:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158442 (roshi, 16:26:02) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, MODIFIED (roshi, 16:26:05) * AGREED: - 1158442 - Punt - We're going to wait to decide on this pending discussion and testing of an existing fix. (roshi, 16:37:26) * (986731) Dual boot of uefi Windows 7 and Fedora 19 fails to boot Windows (roshi, 16:37:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986731 (roshi, 16:37:45) * Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (roshi, 16:37:47) * AGREED: - 986731 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be reproducible on F21. If it is, please update the bug and reproduce. (roshi, 16:42:24) * (1103496) Installer interface sometimes freezes for a while (but install continues, and screen eventually unfreezes) (roshi, 16:42:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103496 (roshi, 16:42:30) * Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (roshi, 16:42:33) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria#Data_corruption (kparal, 16:58:43) * AGREED: - 1103496 - AcceptedBlocker - This is a conditional violation of the Final Data Corruption criterion since it creates the opportunity of data loss to the user (by making them think the install has hung and the user restarts the machine mid-install). (roshi, 17:02:22) * (1144613) [abrt] gnome-tweak-tool: gtk_tree_row_ref_deleted(): python2.7 killed by SIGSEGV (roshi, 17:02:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144613 (roshi, 17:02:40) * Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (roshi, 17:02:43) * AGREED: - 1144613 - RejectedBlocker - The GNOME tweak tool is not a default application for the Workstation product, so this is not considered a blocker. (roshi, 17:10:09) * (1147670) keyboard layout chooser switches letters while typing (roshi, 17:10:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147670 (roshi, 17:10:21) * Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (roshi, 17:10:24) * AGREED: - 1147670 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This bug is difficult to reproduce and it seems to be very system-dependant. Accepting as an FE because if you do hit it, it would be pretty obnoxious. Repropose if more solid reproduction steps can be found or there is a concrete system on which it is quite difficult to perform Fedora installation. (roshi, 17:43:49) * (1158968) AttributeError: 'DMRaidArrayDevice' object has no attribute 'formatClass' (roshi, 17:44:00) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158968 (roshi, 17:44:03) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED (roshi, 17:44:05) * AGREED: - 1158968 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug is a
