Re: Are non-sse2 CPUs officially dead on F29?

2018-10-05 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 23:51 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Sérgio Basto composed on 2018-09-20 04:39 (UTC+0100):
> 
> > On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 22:50 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> > > Non-sse2 
> > what is your non-sse2 [1] ? Pentium 3 (Produced
> > from early 1999 to 2003) ? or pentium 2 ? 
> > In July of 2016 , we talked about enable or disable sse2
> > capabalities on i686 for x264 [2] 
> > On Tuesday, 26 July kwizart test it on KVM guest with pentium 2 cpu
> > emulated , you may read in thread in Pentium 3 code works
> > an in pentium 2 code doesn't work but also doesn't crash  
> > I vote in enable sse2 , and not support Pentium 2 or 3 , why not
> > but an non-sse2 kernel in a copr repo for example ? .
> 
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family: 6
> model : 8
> model name: AMD Sempron(tm)  2800+
> stepping  : 1
> cpu MHz   : 1996.334
> cache size: 256 KB
> fdiv_bug  : no
> hlt_bug   : no
> f00f_bug  : no
> coma_bug  : no
> fpu   : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level   : 1
> wp: yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep
> mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext
> 3dnow up
> bogomips  : 3992.66
> clflush size  : 32
> cache_alignment   : 32
> address sizes : 34 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
> power management: ts
> 
> PC hard locked up after just past halfway done, so I gave up trying.

yeah , you may have one of last cpu that not support SSE2 [1], it was
released on about August/September of 2004 . 
Now IMO, enable SSE2 is correct, because the big majority of i686
computers (now a days) have SSE2 and they benefit a lot with it, on
other hand your computer is not on default , so you may build an non-
default kernel disabling SSE2 . 

Best regards

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Sempron_microprocessors#%22Thorton%22_(Socket_A,_130_nm,_Model_10)


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Re: Are non-sse2 CPUs officially dead on F29?

2018-09-20 Thread Rex Dieter
Felix Miata wrote:

> Non-sse2 won't work on openSUSE Tumbleweed, but does on Debian next
> (10/Buster). I have a 28 attempting to dnf upgrade to 29, but I'm seeing a
> ton of entries filling up /var/lib/systemd/coredump, 197 files and still
> counting. :-( --

Pretty much yes,

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Update_i686_architectural_baseline_to_include_SSE2

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Re: Are non-sse2 CPUs officially dead on F29?

2018-09-19 Thread Felix Miata
Sérgio Basto composed on 2018-09-20 04:39 (UTC+0100):

> On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 22:50 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

>> Non-sse2 

> what is your non-sse2 [1] ? Pentium 3 (Produced
> from early 1999 to 2003) ? or pentium 2 ? 

> In July of 2016 , we talked about enable or disable sse2 capabalities on i686 
> for x264 [2] 
> On Tuesday, 26 July kwizart test it on KVM guest with pentium 2 cpu emulated 
> , you may read in thread in Pentium 3 code works
> an in pentium 2 code doesn't work but also doesn't crash  

> I vote in enable sse2 , and not support Pentium 2 or 3 , why not but an 
> non-sse2 kernel in a copr repo for example ? .

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 8
model name  : AMD Sempron(tm)  2800+
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1996.334
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up
bogomips: 3992.66
clflush size: 32
cache_alignment : 32
address sizes   : 34 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management: ts

PC hard locked up after just past halfway done, so I gave up trying.
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Re: Are non-sse2 CPUs officially dead on F29?

2018-09-19 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 22:50 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Non-sse2 

what is your non-sse2 [1] ? Pentium 3 (Produced
from early 1999 to 2003) ? or pentium 2 ? 

In July of 2016 , we talked about enable or disable sse2 capabalities on i686 
for x264 [2] 
On Tuesday, 26 July kwizart test it on KVM guest with pentium 2 cpu emulated , 
you may read in thread in Pentium 3 code works
an in pentium 2 code doesn't work but also doesn't crash  

I vote in enable sse2 , and not support Pentium 2 or 3 , why not but an 
non-sse2 kernel in a copr repo for example ? .



[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2

[2]
https://lists.rpmfusion.org/archives/list/rpmfusion-develop...@lists.rpmfusion.org/thread/O2LMKYOO5VAK4J5SVHNJAHHCZ27QS5ZI/#M4LX2AOVD6Q6WQE4APIBEF7CQKPZPF7U






> won't work on openSUSE Tumbleweed, but does on Debian next
> (10/Buster).
> I have a 28 attempting to dnf upgrade to 29, but I'm seeing a ton of
> entries
> filling up /var/lib/systemd/coredump, 197 files and still counting.
> :-(
> -- 
> "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you
> get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)
> 
>  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
> 
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Are non-sse2 CPUs officially dead on F29?

2018-09-19 Thread Felix Miata
Non-sse2 won't work on openSUSE Tumbleweed, but does on Debian next (10/Buster).
I have a 28 attempting to dnf upgrade to 29, but I'm seeing a ton of entries
filling up /var/lib/systemd/coredump, 197 files and still counting. :-(
-- 
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)

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