Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:39:46AM +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Michal Jaegermann 
> wrote:
> > > What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this
> problem?
> >
> > Did you look into /var/log/pm-suspend.log after a failed attempt?
> > Some clues could be there.
> >
> >
> > I've been through this, but in case something was missed:
> 
> > /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend
> suspend:kernel.acpi_video_flags = 0
> > success.
> > Sun Oct 10 15:43:42 EST 2010: performing suspend
> >
>
> There _is_ something missing here.  After that last line I would
> expect to see a bunch of log entries from an attempt to resume.
> A resume part was either not really running at all or failed early
> enough before anything had a chance to write in a log.  This seems
> to be an information although I am not sure what to do with it.  Do
> you see the same if you try to hibernate/thaw?  I would also compare
> with pm-suspend.log from when you are running a rawhide kernel which
> you say does these things for you
>
>
I get exactly the same issue with hibernate/thaw too.

I've compared the log files and with the exception of a couple of modules
being absent (lib80211_crypt_tkip, wl[1], lib80211) and a couple of modules
being present (fuse, shpchp, intel_ips) there isn't a lot of difference
except that the log file above is 'missing' something.  The missing bit is
the bit where it resumes properly ;-]


Rodd

[1] I know that wl is a proprietary driver, but I can assure you that I have
tested extensively with it not loaded (and not even loaded at boot up).  I'm
aware that this module taints the kernel, but I've got it installed on the
kernel that works and it's not causing problems.  I'm happy to supply proof
of this bug without wl installed.

It should read like this:

Wed Oct 13 11:15:21 EST 2010: Awake.
Wed Oct 13 11:15:21 EST 2010: Running hooks for resume
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook resume suspend:restoring
level 96 for device sda

/dev/sda:
 setting Advanced Power Management level to 0x60 (96)
 APM_level= 96
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit resume suspend:method return
sender=:1.43 -> dest=:1.90 reply_serial=2
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56dhclient resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd resume suspend:Stopping atd: [  OK  ]
Starting atd: [  OK  ] [  OK  ]
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging resume suspend:success.
Wed Oct 13 11:15:21 EST 2010: Finished.
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:39:46AM +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Michal Jaegermann  
> wrote:
> > What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?
> 
> Did you look into /var/log/pm-suspend.log after a failed attempt?
> Some clues could be there.
> 
> 
> I've been through this, but in case something was missed:

> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend:kernel.acpi_video_flags = > 0
> success.
> Sun Oct 10 15:43:42 EST 2010: performing suspend
> 

There _is_ something missing here.  After that last line I would
expect to see a bunch of log entries from an attempt to resume.
A resume part was either not really running at all or failed early
enough before anything had a chance to write in a log.  This seems
to be an information although I am not sure what to do with it.  Do
you see the same if you try to hibernate/thaw?  I would also compare
with pm-suspend.log from when you are running a rawhide kernel which
you say does these things for you

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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:32 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Richard Ryniker
>  wrote:
> >are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?
> 
> 
> I have a Dell Studio XPS 1645 that runs F13: it suspends and
> resumes just
> fine.  Not your machine exactly, therefore this information
> may be more
> tantalizing than useful.
> 
> Yeah, I think those 2 each units might be important.
> 
> Yours is likely to have a CoreDuo processor, where as mine has an
> Intel Core i5 CPU.  Also, the graphics chipset was changed and a host
> of other little things too.
> 
> Am I right?

For practical purposes, if it's not the same system, we may as well
assume it's completely different unless we have extremely specific proof
otherwise (viz lspci, lsusb, dmidecode output, and the skills to read
it, and probably more than that given the intricacies of BIOS and video
BIOS and panel configuration and a zillion other things).
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Rodd Clarkson  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
>
>> >are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?
>>
>> I have a Dell Studio XPS 1645 that runs F13: it suspends and resumes just
>> fine.  Not your machine exactly, therefore this information may be more
>> tantalizing than useful.
>>
>
> Yeah, I think those 2 each units might be important.
>

Arghhh, that should have been a 1647 (not 1547 as I wrote).
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Richard Ryniker wrote:

> >are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?
>
> I have a Dell Studio XPS 1645 that runs F13: it suspends and resumes just
> fine.  Not your machine exactly, therefore this information may be more
> tantalizing than useful.
>

Yeah, I think those 2 each units might be important.

Yours is likely to have a CoreDuo processor, where as mine has an Intel Core
i5 CPU.  Also, the graphics chipset was changed and a host of other little
things too.

Am I right?


R.

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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Richard Ryniker
>are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?

I have a Dell Studio XPS 1645 that runs F13: it suspends and resumes just
fine.  Not your machine exactly, therefore this information may be more
tantalizing than useful.
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Kyle McMartin  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 01:09:18PM +0200, Micha? Piotrowski wrote:
> > It might be a patch added by one of Fedora kernel developers. CC'ing
> > fedora-kernel
> >
>
> Honestly, there's nothing particularly relevant in F-14's kernel. Can
> you please try:
> http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.36-0.36.rc7.git3.fc15/x86_64/
>
> Which is a nodebug rawhide kernel, which is even closer to upstream than
> the F-14 2.6.35 is, and let us know if that's any more helpful?
>
> (I could swear someone was doing pre-built vanilla kernels, we should
> bring that back if not.)
>
> I've tried this kernel (sans perf) and I can suspend and resume again.
This is in f14.

Should I try this in f13?

Will this help isolate what's wrong with the 2.6.34 and 2.6.35 kernels for
my system?

I should ask, are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 10:47 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

> One more triaging step I'd recommend is to try an upstream
> kernel of the
> same vintage. If that works, you know that some change Fedora
> adds is
> breaking it. If it doesn't work, you know that Ubuntu and SUSE
> both have
> a patch that Fedora doesn't which fixes it.
> 
> (I suspect this may come down to graphics code; Fedora
> generally carries
> rather newer upstream versions of intel, nouveau and radeon
> than other
> distros, and these can introduce regressions).
> 
> I'm pretty confident that I've tried every f13 kernel that's been
> through koji.  If I haven't, I've come close.

I said 'upstream', as in, 'not Fedora'. Just grab upstream kernel source
and build it. A completely vanilla kernel.org kernel.
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Kyle McMartin  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 01:09:18PM +0200, Micha? Piotrowski wrote:
> > It might be a patch added by one of Fedora kernel developers. CC'ing
> > fedora-kernel
> >
>
> Honestly, there's nothing particularly relevant in F-14's kernel. Can
> you please try:
> http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.36-0.36.rc7.git3.fc15/x86_64/
>
> Which is a nodebug rawhide kernel, which is even closer to upstream than
> the F-14 2.6.35 is, and let us know if that's any more helpful?
>
> (I could swear someone was doing pre-built vanilla kernels, we should
> bring that back if not.)
>
> How important is perl?  perl-f15 has python (libpython2.6.so.1.0()(64bit))
requirements that I'm willing to sort out, but will most likely mean I'll
have to rebuild me f14 test install after this is all done.


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 21:39 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>
> > I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and
> > suspend and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.
> >
> > What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?
>
> One more triaging step I'd recommend is to try an upstream kernel of the
> same vintage. If that works, you know that some change Fedora adds is
> breaking it. If it doesn't work, you know that Ubuntu and SUSE both have
> a patch that Fedora doesn't which fixes it.
>
> (I suspect this may come down to graphics code; Fedora generally carries
> rather newer upstream versions of intel, nouveau and radeon than other
> distros, and these can introduce regressions).
>

I'm pretty confident that I've tried every f13 kernel that's been through
koji.  If I haven't, I've come close.

I've also tried all the 'released' f14 kernels along with a couple of others
(I'm still to try the two kernel suggestions above, I'm downloading Kyle's
now and will rebuild the kernel if needed).

Early in F13's move to 2.6.34 there was another bug that caused issues with
suspending the system.  This was resolved, which revealed problems with
resuming from a suspend (which seems to have worked properly).

So, it's hard to tell if this bug was in the first 2.6.34 kernel for f13 or
not.


>
> > I know it seems strange to some, but suspend and resume are one of the
> > most important features for me on my laptop.  I can (and have) put up
> > with (a lot) less than optimal video, no sound and even wireless
> > network issues, but without a functioning suspend and resume it's
> > quite arduous having to wait for a system to shutdown and reboot.
> > Each to their own I guess, but I'd really like this to work and it
> > appears that it does work on other distros which makes me wonder what
> > Fedora isn't doing right.
>
> It's not strange, suspend/resume is critical to most laptop users. It's
> just pretty hard to diagnose and fix.
>

I'm aware of this which is why I'm trying to supply as much information as
possible to the kernel developers to try and rectify this problem I have.
It may be that isn't not actually the kernel, but some other related part of
the software stack, but I wouldn't know where to start looking.


R.



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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:39:13PM +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>
> > What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?
>
> It is also possible that this is not strictly a kernel but some of
> modules should be removed before attempting a suspend and Ubuntu
> does that while Fedora by default is not. OTOH you may (at least on
> F13) put into /home/spare/reddwarf/etc/pm/config.d/ your own .cfg file
> with a list of modules which should be removed/inserted on
> suspend/resume.  Such list has a format:
> SUSPEND_MODULES="name1 name2 "
>
>  As per comment 31 in the bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897#c31

I've got this down to:

module  Size  Used by
sunrpc198573  1
cpufreq_ondemand8764  4
acpi_cpufreq7693  1
freq_table  3955  2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
ipt_MASQUERADE  2296  1
iptable_nat 4890  1
nf_nat 1  2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
ip6t_REJECT 4111  2
nf_conntrack_ipv6  17856  10
ip6table_filter 1671  1
ip6_tables 17580  1 ip6table_filter
ipv6  275768  46 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6

But is still doesn't resume properly.


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:

>
> > What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?
>
> Did you look into /var/log/pm-suspend.log after a failed attempt?
> Some clues could be there.
>

I've been through this, but in case something was missed:

Initial commandline parameters:
Sun Oct 10 15:43:41 EST 2010: Running hooks for suspend.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend:Linux
moose.localdomain 2.6.35.6-39.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct
8 16:23:12 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Module  Size  Used by
rfcomm 67220  4
sco17180  2
bnep   15390  2
l2cap  51240  16 rfcomm,bnep
sunrpc201180  1
cpufreq_ondemand9278  4
acpi_cpufreq7329  1
freq_table  3955  2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
mperf   1481  1 acpi_cpufreq
ip6t_REJECT 4279  2
nf_conntrack_ipv6  18078  7
ip6table_filter 1687  1
ip6_tables 17481  1 ip6table_filter
ipv6  286249  40 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
uinput  7368  0
snd_hda_codec_atihdmi 2727  1
snd_hda_codec_idt  55579  1
snd_hda_intel  24399  2
snd_hda_codec  86743  3
snd_hda_codec_atihdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep   6392  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_seq53791  0
snd_seq_device  6191  1 snd_seq
snd_pcm80190  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer  19892  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
btusb  15482  2
bluetooth  89276  9 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb
lib80211_crypt_tkip 7987  0
uvcvideo   55489  0
videodev   41889  1 uvcvideo
wl   1961114  0
iTCO_wdt   11256  0
joydev  9737  0
tg3   110866  0
v4l1_compat12970  2 uvcvideo,videodev
snd63968  12
snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_p
cm,snd_timer
soundcore   6576  1 snd
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 9869  1 videodev
snd_page_alloc  7559  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
dell_laptop 6477  0
iTCO_vendor_support 2610  1 iTCO_wdt
lib802115095  2 lib80211_crypt_tkip,wl
dell_wmi3323  0
i2c_i801   11088  0
rfkill 17622  3 bluetooth,dell_laptop
dcdbas  8524  1 dell_laptop
microcode  18548  0
wmi 8138  1 dell_wmi
sdhci_pci   7569  0
firewire_ohci  21170  0
sdhci  18448  1 sdhci_pci
firewire_core  45817  1 firewire_ohci
mmc_core   64113  1 sdhci
crc_itu_t   1563  1 firewire_core
video  21637  0
output  2253  1 video
radeon635137  2
ttm55006  1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 25743  1 radeon
drm   177972  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit5205  1 radeon
i2c_core   26900  6
videodev,i2c_i801,radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   3982524 4350483547476  0  70004 116480
-/+ buffers/cache: 2485643733960
Swap:  8389624  08389624
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56dhclient suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler suspend
suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook suspend suspend:saving
level 96 for device sda
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend:kernel.acpi_video_flags
= 0
success.
Sun Oct 10 15:43:42 EST 2010: performing suspend
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 21:39 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

> I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and
> suspend and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.
> 
> What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

One more triaging step I'd recommend is to try an upstream kernel of the
same vintage. If that works, you know that some change Fedora adds is
breaking it. If it doesn't work, you know that Ubuntu and SUSE both have
a patch that Fedora doesn't which fixes it.

(I suspect this may come down to graphics code; Fedora generally carries
rather newer upstream versions of intel, nouveau and radeon than other
distros, and these can introduce regressions).

> I know it seems strange to some, but suspend and resume are one of the
> most important features for me on my laptop.  I can (and have) put up
> with (a lot) less than optimal video, no sound and even wireless
> network issues, but without a functioning suspend and resume it's
> quite arduous having to wait for a system to shutdown and reboot.
> Each to their own I guess, but I'd really like this to work and it
> appears that it does work on other distros which makes me wonder what
> Fedora isn't doing right.

It's not strange, suspend/resume is critical to most laptop users. It's
just pretty hard to diagnose and fix.
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:39:13PM +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and suspend
> and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.
> 
> What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

Did you look into /var/log/pm-suspend.log after a failed attempt?
Some clues could be there.

It is also possible that this is not strictly a kernel but some of
modules should be removed before attempting a suspend and Ubuntu
does that while Fedora by default is not. OTOH you may (at least on
F13) put into /home/spare/reddwarf/etc/pm/config.d/ your own .cfg file
with a list of modules which should be removed/inserted on
suspend/resume.  Such list has a format:
SUSPEND_MODULES="name1 name2 "

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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 01:09:18PM +0200, Micha? Piotrowski wrote:
> It might be a patch added by one of Fedora kernel developers. CC'ing
> fedora-kernel
> 

Honestly, there's nothing particularly relevant in F-14's kernel. Can
you please try:
http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.36-0.36.rc7.git3.fc15/x86_64/

Which is a nodebug rawhide kernel, which is even closer to upstream than
the F-14 2.6.35 is, and let us know if that's any more helpful?

(I could swear someone was doing pre-built vanilla kernels, we should
bring that back if not.)

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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 12 października 2010 12:39 użytkownik Rodd Clarkson
 napisał:
>
>
> 2010/9/28 Michał Piotrowski 
>>
>> W dniu 27 września 2010 23:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
>>  napisał:
>> > 2010/9/27 Rodd Clarkson :
>> >> I've been having troubles getting 2.6.34.x kernels on f13 and 2.6.35.x
>> >> kernels on f14 to resume from suspend.
>> >>
>> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897
>> >>
>> >> To try and resolve this I've been trying out other recent distros to
>> >> see if
>> >> they have similar kernels and whether I have the same problem resuming.
>> >>
>> >> Recent ubuntu is still only using 2.6.32 but openSUSE 11.3 has a 2.6.34
>> >> kernel and I can suspend and resume from it using the live CD. How can
>> >> I
>> >> compare this kernel to ones in f13/f14 to see why it works in one and
>> >> not in
>> >> the other?
>> >
>> > You can download source package and check whether there are any
>> > patches that fixes suspend.
>>
>> I grepped the source and I have not found anything obvious.
>>
> I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and suspend
> and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.
>
> What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

It might be a patch added by one of Fedora kernel developers. CC'ing
fedora-kernel

>
> I know it seems strange to some, but suspend and resume are one of the most
> important features for me on my laptop.  I can (and have) put up with (a
> lot) less than optimal video, no sound and even wireless network issues, but
> without a functioning suspend and resume it's quite arduous having to wait
> for a system to shutdown and reboot.  Each to their own I guess, but I'd
> really like this to work and it appears that it does work on other distros
> which makes me wonder what Fedora isn't doing right.
>
>
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
2010/9/28 Michał Piotrowski 

> W dniu 27 września 2010 23:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
>  napisał:
> > 2010/9/27 Rodd Clarkson :
> >> I've been having troubles getting 2.6.34.x kernels on f13 and 2.6.35.x
> >> kernels on f14 to resume from suspend.
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897
> >>
> >> To try and resolve this I've been trying out other recent distros to see
> if
> >> they have similar kernels and whether I have the same problem resuming.
> >>
> >> Recent ubuntu is still only using 2.6.32 but openSUSE 11.3 has a 2.6.34
> >> kernel and I can suspend and resume from it using the live CD. How can I
> >> compare this kernel to ones in f13/f14 to see why it works in one and
> not in
> >> the other?
> >
> > You can download source package and check whether there are any
> > patches that fixes suspend.
>
> I grepped the source and I have not found anything obvious.
>
> I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and
suspend and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.

What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

I know it seems strange to some, but suspend and resume are one of the most
important features for me on my laptop.  I can (and have) put up with (a
lot) less than optimal video, no sound and even wireless network issues, but
without a functioning suspend and resume it's quite arduous having to wait
for a system to shutdown and reboot.  Each to their own I guess, but I'd
really like this to work and it appears that it does work on other distros
which makes me wonder what Fedora isn't doing right.


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-09-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 27 września 2010 23:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
 napisał:
> 2010/9/27 Rodd Clarkson :
>> I've been having troubles getting 2.6.34.x kernels on f13 and 2.6.35.x
>> kernels on f14 to resume from suspend.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897
>>
>> To try and resolve this I've been trying out other recent distros to see if
>> they have similar kernels and whether I have the same problem resuming.
>>
>> Recent ubuntu is still only using 2.6.32 but openSUSE 11.3 has a 2.6.34
>> kernel and I can suspend and resume from it using the live CD. How can I
>> compare this kernel to ones in f13/f14 to see why it works in one and not in
>> the other?
>
> You can download source package and check whether there are any
> patches that fixes suspend.

I grepped the source and I have not found anything obvious.

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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-09-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/27 Rodd Clarkson :
> I've been having troubles getting 2.6.34.x kernels on f13 and 2.6.35.x
> kernels on f14 to resume from suspend.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897
>
> To try and resolve this I've been trying out other recent distros to see if
> they have similar kernels and whether I have the same problem resuming.
>
> Recent ubuntu is still only using 2.6.32 but openSUSE 11.3 has a 2.6.34
> kernel and I can suspend and resume from it using the live CD. How can I
> compare this kernel to ones in f13/f14 to see why it works in one and not in
> the other?

You can download source package and check whether there are any
patches that fixes suspend.

>
> Rodd
>

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Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-09-27 Thread Rodd Clarkson
I've been having troubles getting 2.6.34.x kernels on f13 and 2.6.35.x
kernels on f14 to resume from suspend.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897

To try and resolve this I've been trying out other recent distros to see if
they have similar kernels and whether I have the same problem resuming.

Recent ubuntu is still only using 2.6.32 but openSUSE 11.3 has a 2.6.34
kernel and I can suspend and resume from it using the live CD. How can I
compare this kernel to ones in f13/f14 to see why it works in one and not in
the other?

Rodd
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