Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 13:00 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> In an F16 Alpha install done via an upgrade from F15 final, I get various
> rendering issues in GNOME Shell, such as
> 
>   http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/screenshot-f16-alpha-damage1.png
> 
> Not always, but at random times. Also:
>  - perceived lag (compared with F15)
>  - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank
>until I touch the window or move a GTK slider,
>e.g. individual mailbox subject lines in Claws Mail summary view
>  - once, a few large black rectangular areas have appeared around an
>xterm window when moving it above a pair of Emacs and Firefox
>  - lines of output in gnome-terminal and/or xterm don't appear and
>are displayed only when moving the window or hitting Enter once more
> 
> Is anyone aware of such issues? Is it likely to be a driver issue or
> specific to the GNOME Shell? (dunno whether trying out a different WM would
> be a sufficient test)

I'm seeing similar stuff with nouveau; it seems mostly to be some kind
of buffering issue, window content is not being updated when it should,
and I wind up with old content still there, or apparently blank areas.
Ben was of the opinion it may well be in the Shell stack somewhere
(probably clutter, if I had to guess). I'm meant to test with LXDE or
KDE or something to see if that 'fixes' it, but haven't got around to it
yet.

I haven't seen the out-and-out corruption in your first screenshot,
though, so I think that's something different.

> http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xorg-x11-drv-ati
> lists 177 tickets. Where can I find a guide on how to report
> "the right stuff"?

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Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/10/2011 11:00 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> In an F16 Alpha install done via an upgrade from F15 final, I get various
> rendering issues in GNOME Shell, such as
>
>http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/screenshot-f16-alpha-damage1.png
>
> Not always, but at random times. Also:
>   - perceived lag (compared with F15)
>   - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank
> until I touch the window or move a GTK slider,
> e.g. individual mailbox subject lines in Claws Mail summary view
>   - once, a few large black rectangular areas have appeared around an
> xterm window when moving it above a pair of Emacs and Firefox
>   - lines of output in gnome-terminal and/or xterm don't appear and
> are displayed only when moving the window or hitting Enter once more
>
> Is anyone aware of such issues? Is it likely to be a driver issue or
> specific to the GNOME Shell? (dunno whether trying out a different WM would
> be a sufficient test)
>
> http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xorg-x11-drv-ati
> lists 177 tickets. Where can I find a guide on how to report
> "the right stuff"?

Seeing issue here as well M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]  Not sure thou 
if it's X driver to blame or Gnome-Shell
Oh and the fan is constantly on

JBG
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Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:00:34 +0200
Michael Schwendt  wrote:

> Not always, but at random times. Also:
>  - perceived lag (compared with F15)
>  - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank
>until I touch the window or move a GTK slider,
>e.g. individual mailbox subject lines in Claws Mail summary view

Just FYI, I've been seeing some of this in rawhide on my Radeon for a
while.  Claws does seem to be especially prone to the partial update
thing, but emacs shows it too.  I've not had the time to even begin to
track it down.

I see the partial updates with the 3.0 kernel.  When I run

kernel-3.1.0-0.rc0.git21.1.fc17.x86_64

instead, what I see, in addition, is horrific performance.  GNOME shell
achieves a new level of pain there, but even fallback mode hurts.  I've
not had any time to try to figure out what's going on there either.

jon
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F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
In an F16 Alpha install done via an upgrade from F15 final, I get various
rendering issues in GNOME Shell, such as

  http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/screenshot-f16-alpha-damage1.png

Not always, but at random times. Also:
 - perceived lag (compared with F15)
 - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank
   until I touch the window or move a GTK slider,
   e.g. individual mailbox subject lines in Claws Mail summary view
 - once, a few large black rectangular areas have appeared around an
   xterm window when moving it above a pair of Emacs and Firefox
 - lines of output in gnome-terminal and/or xterm don't appear and
   are displayed only when moving the window or hitting Enter once more

Is anyone aware of such issues? Is it likely to be a driver issue or
specific to the GNOME Shell? (dunno whether trying out a different WM would
be a sufficient test)

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xorg-x11-drv-ati
lists 177 tickets. Where can I find a guide on how to report
"the right stuff"?
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