Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
Hi, So far BIOS in UEFI mode on this Laptop (ACER Aspire E 15 E5 -571G, I bought it 2 month ago) does not "see" this external disk. The reason can be the about 7 years old adapter. I can boot F21 Live CDs, also on USB stick in UEFI mode. So far I have the feeling that the UEFI branch of the bios in this laptop is optimized for Win 8, but currently I have no external SATA disk and "up to date" usb adapter to try out this. The external disk (Pata) contains only F21, installed via Live CD. Kind Regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Samuel Sieb An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Verschickt: Di, 14 Okt 2014 8:33 am Betreff: Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition On 10/13/2014 11:01 PM, Joerg Lechner wrote: > - stop in Bios mode, switch to Legacy Mode (UEFI mode does not accept my > external F21 pata disk) Is the external disk formatted as GPT with an EFI partition? I installed F20 to a USB stick and it is bootable via EFI. It should be the same for a USB hard drive. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
On 10/13/2014 11:01 PM, Joerg Lechner wrote: - stop in Bios mode, switch to Legacy Mode (UEFI mode does not accept my external F21 pata disk) Is the external disk formatted as GPT with an EFI partition? I installed F20 to a USB stick and it is bootable via EFI. It should be the same for a USB hard drive. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
Thank You Kamil and Chuck for Your help. Now I have access to the Windows disk running F21 TC3. According to what You had told me, I did the following: - login Windows 8.1 as admin - shut down using Windows-X - start Windows as user - leaving Windows via restart - stop in Bios mode, switch to Legacy Mode (UEFI mode does not accept my external F21 pata disk) - now I have r/w access to the internal disk (Windows 8.1) of the Acer Laptop running F21 on an external disk. When I use Windows again and afterwards I want to use F21 with r/w access of the Win disk, I have to leave Windows via restart. But it's not neccessary to login as admin a second time. So far my experience today. Kind Regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Chuck Anderson An: test Verschickt: Di, 14 Okt 2014 4:03 am Betreff: Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition Windows 8 does not shutdown when you tell it to shutdown. Instead it "partially hibernates". To be sure that Windows 8 really shuts down, either turn off the "Fast Startup" (aka hybrid boot, aka hybrid shutdown) option in Windows 8 (not in the BIOS/UEFI), or do a "Restart" in Windows 8 but then choose to boot Fedora before Windows starts. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:53:30AM -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote: > Hi, > I don't find a "fast restart" button in the BIOS. Windows 8.1 I have to run > in UEFI Mode. For F21 I have to switch to Legacy Mode. There is in UEFI Mode a button "Secure Boot Mode" which is on "standard". Anyway I did several Boots of Windows, switched to Legacy F21 and back to Windows etc. In one of my trials I could access in F21 Beta TC3 the Windows disk, but currently there is this Error Message again. Possibly there is an "influence" of the UEFI mode sometimes, in this case I would think it's a BIOS problem and not F21. > But I didn't have a problem like that previously in F21 Alpha and Beta TC2. > Kind Regards > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- > Von: Kamil Paral > An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases > > Verschickt: Mo, 13 Okt 2014 2:21 pm > Betreff: Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition > > > > Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /run/media/joerg/Acer: Command-line `mount -t > > "ntfs" -o > > "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" > > "/dev/sda4" "/run/media/joerg/Acer"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: > > Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. > > Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt > > The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown > > Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume > > read-only with the 'ro' mount option. > > > Is this a ok for F21 Beta TC3? Is the partition check in TC3 more detailed > > now and my Windows (currently shut down) really is in "an unsafe state"? > > Most likely your Windows is not shut down, because you have not disabled > 'fast > restart' feature, as the error message suggests. Or have you? > -- > test mailing list > test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
Windows 8 does not shutdown when you tell it to shutdown. Instead it "partially hibernates". To be sure that Windows 8 really shuts down, either turn off the "Fast Startup" (aka hybrid boot, aka hybrid shutdown) option in Windows 8 (not in the BIOS/UEFI), or do a "Restart" in Windows 8 but then choose to boot Fedora before Windows starts. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:53:30AM -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote: > Hi, > I don't find a "fast restart" button in the BIOS. Windows 8.1 I have to run > in UEFI Mode. For F21 I have to switch to Legacy Mode. There is in UEFI Mode > a button "Secure Boot Mode" which is on "standard". Anyway I did several > Boots of Windows, switched to Legacy F21 and back to Windows etc. In one of > my trials I could access in F21 Beta TC3 the Windows disk, but currently > there is this Error Message again. Possibly there is an "influence" of the > UEFI mode sometimes, in this case I would think it's a BIOS problem and not > F21. > But I didn't have a problem like that previously in F21 Alpha and Beta TC2. > Kind Regards > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Kamil Paral > An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases > > Verschickt: Mo, 13 Okt 2014 2:21 pm > Betreff: Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition > > > > Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /run/media/joerg/Acer: Command-line `mount -t > > "ntfs" -o > > "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" > > "/dev/sda4" "/run/media/joerg/Acer"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: > > Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. > > Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt > > The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown > > Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume > > read-only with the 'ro' mount option. > > > Is this a ok for F21 Beta TC3? Is the partition check in TC3 more detailed > > now and my Windows (currently shut down) really is in "an unsafe state"? > > Most likely your Windows is not shut down, because you have not disabled > 'fast > restart' feature, as the error message suggests. Or have you? > -- > test mailing list > test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
Hi, I don't find a "fast restart" button in the BIOS. Windows 8.1 I have to run in UEFI Mode. For F21 I have to switch to Legacy Mode. There is in UEFI Mode a button "Secure Boot Mode" which is on "standard". Anyway I did several Boots of Windows, switched to Legacy F21 and back to Windows etc. In one of my trials I could access in F21 Beta TC3 the Windows disk, but currently there is this Error Message again. Possibly there is an "influence" of the UEFI mode sometimes, in this case I would think it's a BIOS problem and not F21. But I didn't have a problem like that previously in F21 Alpha and Beta TC2. Kind Regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Kamil Paral An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Verschickt: Mo, 13 Okt 2014 2:21 pm Betreff: Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition > Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /run/media/joerg/Acer: Command-line `mount -t > "ntfs" -o > "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" > "/dev/sda4" "/run/media/joerg/Acer"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: > Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. > Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt > The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown > Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume > read-only with the 'ro' mount option. > Is this a ok for F21 Beta TC3? Is the partition check in TC3 more detailed > now and my Windows (currently shut down) really is in "an unsafe state"? Most likely your Windows is not shut down, because you have not disabled 'fast restart' feature, as the error message suggests. Or have you? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
> Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /run/media/joerg/Acer: Command-line `mount -t > "ntfs" -o > "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" > "/dev/sda4" "/run/media/joerg/Acer"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: > Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. > Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt > The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown > Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume > read-only with the 'ro' mount option. > Is this a ok for F21 Beta TC3? Is the partition check in TC3 more detailed > now and my Windows (currently shut down) really is in "an unsafe state"? Most likely your Windows is not shut down, because you have not disabled 'fast restart' feature, as the error message suggests. Or have you? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
Hi, On an Acer Aspire E 15 E5-571G Laptop I run F21 on an external disk connected via USB. So far I could mount the Windows 8.1 partition of the internal disk of the laptop - was possible with F21 Alpha, Beta TC2. Installation now F21 Beta TC3 Workstation 86_64. Now with Beta TC3, when I want to get access to the Windows partition (clicking in the File Manager on the "Acer Windows Disk" and giving su password) there is the message: Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /run/media/joerg/Acer: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda4" "/run/media/joerg/Acer"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option. Is this a ok for F21 Beta TC3? Is the partition check in TC3 more detailed now and my Windows (currently shut down) really is in "an unsafe state"? Kind Regards -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
