Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of]

2014-11-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
  I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
  day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
  know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
  or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
  
  When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as prompted,
  and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
  insisted they didn't match.
  
  tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
  
  So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
  say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
  up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
  to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
  and for root.
  
  Never seen any such thing before!
  
  If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
  reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
  report it?
 
Adam, et al:

I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
wrong in the first instance, or what.

So I guess it counts as resolved, for some values therof.

 That's, um, a rather strange one. It's hard to know what kind of info is
 best apart from the obvious 'how can you reproduce it' - AFAIK those are
 pretty standard GTK+ text entry boxes and all anaconda does is compare
 their contents.
 
 So basically the bug is this:
 
 1. type 'correcthorsebatterystaple' in box 1
 2. type 'correcthorsebatterystaple' in box 2
 
 NO MATCH
 
 1. type 'c' in box 1
 2. type 'c' in box 2
 3. type 'o' in box 1
 4. type 'o' in box 2
 5. type 'r' in box 1
 6. type 'r' in box 2
 
 (SOME TIME LATER)
 
 49. type 'e' in box 1
 50. type 'e' in box 2
 
 MATCH
 
 right? I guess the other info is whether it depends on the actual
 password used, and if so, what's a password that triggers it.
 
 I definitely haven't seen that in my F21 testing. I tend to use the
 password '11', but I do use 'correcthorse@' sometimes for keyboard
 layout tests.

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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue

2014-11-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/03/2014 12:29 PM, Fred Smith wrote:


I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.

When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as prompted,
and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
insisted they didn't match.

tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.

So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
and for root.

Never seen any such thing before!

I have seen a similar issue when installing in a VM viewed over VNC. 
Occasional characters would get dropped.  I ended up just carefully 
typing the passwords in one character at a time, making sure that there 
was another dot each time.

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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of--or maybe NOT]

2014-11-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:04:24AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
   I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
   day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
   know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
   or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
   
   When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as 
   prompted,
   and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
   insisted they didn't match.
   
   tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
   
   So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
   say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
   up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
   to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
   and for root.
   
   Never seen any such thing before!
   
   If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
   reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
   report it?
  
 Adam, et al:
 
 I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
 this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
 wrong in the first instance, or what.
 
 So I guess it counts as resolved, for some values therof.

Well, I downloaded the actual beta and I can re-create it, it's a
matter of how one types things in, apparently, on the user creation
screen. I've exercised this four or five times this evening, and
it seems to always work as described below:

When the user creation screen first appears, if I type my name in
quickly, it appears as derF Smith, then when I go on to enter a
password, it repeatedly fails. Makes me wonder if whatever caused
the reverse-ordering of the letters in my first name may not also be
messing with what I type into the password fields.

OTOH, if I wait a few seconds after the user creation appears, and
type the first name slowly, all is well: the name is not reversed,
and the password is accepted without complaint.

weird, eh?

Fred

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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of--or maybe NOT]

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:14 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:04:24AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
   On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) 
t'other
day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I 
don't
know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.

When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as 
prompted,
and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. 
It
insisted they didn't match.

tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.

So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my 
way
up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed 
me
to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
and for root.

Never seen any such thing before!

If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
report it?
   
  Adam, et al:
  
  I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
  this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
  wrong in the first instance, or what.
  
  So I guess it counts as resolved, for some values therof.
 
 Well, I downloaded the actual beta and I can re-create it, it's a
 matter of how one types things in, apparently, on the user creation
 screen. I've exercised this four or five times this evening, and
 it seems to always work as described below:
 
 When the user creation screen first appears, if I type my name in
 quickly, it appears as derF Smith, then when I go on to enter a
 password, it repeatedly fails. Makes me wonder if whatever caused
 the reverse-ordering of the letters in my first name may not also be
 messing with what I type into the password fields.
 
 OTOH, if I wait a few seconds after the user creation appears, and
 type the first name slowly, all is well: the name is not reversed,
 and the password is accepted without complaint.
 
 weird, eh?

Yeah, it is a bit (and would explain why I don't see it with my
palindromic password...)

Which image were you using again? If you can, can you test with
virt-manager and see if it reproduces there?
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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of--or maybe NOT]

2014-11-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 06:44:23PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:14 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:04:24AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
   On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) 
 t'other
 day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I 
 don't
 know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
 or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
 
 When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as 
 prompted,
 and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and 
 again. It
 insisted they didn't match.
 
 tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
 
 So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
 say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my 
 way
 up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it 
 allowed me
 to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my 
 username
 and for root.
 
 Never seen any such thing before!
 
 If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
 reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
 report it?

   Adam, et al:
   
   I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
   this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
   wrong in the first instance, or what.
   
   So I guess it counts as resolved, for some values therof.
  
  Well, I downloaded the actual beta and I can re-create it, it's a
  matter of how one types things in, apparently, on the user creation
  screen. I've exercised this four or five times this evening, and
  it seems to always work as described below:
  
  When the user creation screen first appears, if I type my name in
  quickly, it appears as derF Smith, then when I go on to enter a
  password, it repeatedly fails. Makes me wonder if whatever caused
  the reverse-ordering of the letters in my first name may not also be
  messing with what I type into the password fields.
  
  OTOH, if I wait a few seconds after the user creation appears, and
  type the first name slowly, all is well: the name is not reversed,
  and the password is accepted without complaint.
  
  weird, eh?
 
 Yeah, it is a bit (and would explain why I don't see it with my
 palindromic password...)
 
 Which image were you using again? If you can, can you test with

today's tests are using: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21_Beta-4.iso

 virt-manager and see if it reproduces there?

I don't have it working on this system, and I'd rather not futz
with my main desktop machine to get it working. sorry.


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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of--or maybe NOT]

2014-11-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/05/14 10:44, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:14 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:04:24AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
 day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
 know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
 or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.

 When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as 
 prompted,
 and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
 insisted they didn't match.

 tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.

 So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
 say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
 up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
 to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
 and for root.

 Never seen any such thing before!

 If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
 reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
 report it?
 Adam, et al:

 I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
 this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
 wrong in the first instance, or what.

 So I guess it counts as resolved, for some values therof.
 Well, I downloaded the actual beta and I can re-create it, it's a
 matter of how one types things in, apparently, on the user creation
 screen. I've exercised this four or five times this evening, and
 it seems to always work as described below:

 When the user creation screen first appears, if I type my name in
 quickly, it appears as derF Smith, then when I go on to enter a
 password, it repeatedly fails. Makes me wonder if whatever caused
 the reverse-ordering of the letters in my first name may not also be
 messing with what I type into the password fields.

 OTOH, if I wait a few seconds after the user creation appears, and
 type the first name slowly, all is well: the name is not reversed,
 and the password is accepted without complaint.

 weird, eh?
 Yeah, it is a bit (and would explain why I don't see it with my
 palindromic password...)

 Which image were you using again? If you can, can you test with
 virt-manager and see if it reproduces there?

FWIW, I do most of my testing in VirtualBox VM's using the VBox distribution 
directly from Oracle.  My host system is F20.  

I've never encountered problems such as this one.  I've had some minor issues 
when some VM configuration settings didn't sit well with Fedora/Linux guests.

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F21 TC-3 installation issue

2014-11-03 Thread Fred Smith

I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.

When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as prompted,
and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
insisted they didn't match.

tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.

So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
and for root.

Never seen any such thing before!

If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
report it?

thanks!
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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue

2014-11-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
 I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
 day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
 know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
 or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
 
 When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as prompted,
 and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
 insisted they didn't match.
 
 tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
 
 So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
 say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
 up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
 to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
 and for root.
 
 Never seen any such thing before!
 
 If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
 reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
 report it?

That's, um, a rather strange one. It's hard to know what kind of info is
best apart from the obvious 'how can you reproduce it' - AFAIK those are
pretty standard GTK+ text entry boxes and all anaconda does is compare
their contents.

So basically the bug is this:

1. type 'correcthorsebatterystaple' in box 1
2. type 'correcthorsebatterystaple' in box 2

NO MATCH

1. type 'c' in box 1
2. type 'c' in box 2
3. type 'o' in box 1
4. type 'o' in box 2
5. type 'r' in box 1
6. type 'r' in box 2

(SOME TIME LATER)

49. type 'e' in box 1
50. type 'e' in box 2

MATCH

right? I guess the other info is whether it depends on the actual
password used, and if so, what's a password that triggers it.

I definitely haven't seen that in my F21 testing. I tend to use the
password '11', but I do use 'correcthorse@' sometimes for keyboard
layout tests.
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