Fwd: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-10-02 Thread Joerg Lechner


 Hi,
I should note, that the installation with manual partitioning installed showed 
after installation the same partitions as was, when I had chosen automatic 
partitioning with reclaim space. My wanted partitioning was ignored.
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Hi,
tried now wether my installation way causes the error: automatic partitioning 
with reclaim space. But it isn't, made the installation medium "clean" and used 
manual partitioning -> same result shown in the dracut error reporting.
Kind regards

 

 

 

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Might this be a clue (from your anaconda log)?  13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: 
Running post-installation scripts  13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: Running 
kickstart %%post script(s)  13:10:29,210 ERR anaconda: Error code 1 running the 
kickstart script at line 33  13:10:29,210 INFO anaconda: All kickstart %%post 
script(s) have been runI checked my installation, and have no "Error code 1" 
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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-10-01 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
tried now wether my installation way causes the error: automatic partitioning 
with reclaim space. But it isn't, made the installation medium "clean" and used 
manual partitioning -> same result shown in the dracut error reporting.
Kind regards

 

 

 

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Might this be a clue (from your anaconda log)?  13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: 
Running post-installation scripts  13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: Running 
kickstart %%post script(s)  13:10:29,210 ERR anaconda: Error code 1 running the 
kickstart script at line 33  13:10:29,210 INFO anaconda: All kickstart %%post 
script(s) have been runI checked my installation, and have no "Error code 1" 
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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-10-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
Might this be a clue (from your anaconda log)?

  13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: Running post-installation scripts
  13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: Running kickstart %%post script(s)
  13:10:29,210 ERR anaconda: Error code 1 running the kickstart script at line 
33
  13:10:29,210 INFO anaconda: All kickstart %%post script(s) have been run

I checked my installation, and have no "Error code 1" message.
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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
installed again with the original F25 Alpha public delivery live Workstation.
Here the anaconda.log from liveuser, if You need more logs, no problem, please 
tell me.
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Joerg Lechner  wrote:> Hi,> 
tested again.> Acer laptop Aspire E15 E5-571G EFI system> 64GB USB 3.0 flash 
medium>> Loaded F25 Alpha release Workstation> dnf update kernel -> got Kernel 
x86_64 4.8.0-0 rc8.git.0.1.fc25> made -according to the production process- a 
successful F25 build on the> 64GB flash medium> Tried to boot -> again Dracut 
error with the warnings:> - dev/fedora/root does not exist> - dev/fedora/swap 
does not exist> - dev/mapper/fedora-root does not exist>> When I looked with 
F24 onto the F25 build, most partitions did not exist,> i.e. EFI partition was 
empty, also GRUB2 was nearly empty,> the size of the F25 build was was about 
1,1GB.> Kind regardsYou're doing a default autopartition installtaion to the 
USB media?And it doesn't have an LVM partition for fedora-root and 
fedora-swapLV's? That's an installer bug, although without logs from 
theinstaller there's no way to figure out what's going on.-- Chris 
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00:53:28,680 INFO anaconda: /sbin/anaconda 25.20-1
00:53:28,946 INFO anaconda: 8194716 kB (8002 MB) are available
00:53:28,959 INFO anaconda: check_memory(): total:8002, needed:320, graphical:410
00:53:28,968 INFO anaconda: Not doing 'early exception handler' in live installation
00:53:28,968 INFO anaconda: Not doing 'start audit daemon' in live installation
00:53:28,969 INFO anaconda: anaconda called with cmdline = ['/sbin/anaconda', '--liveinst', '--method=livecd:///dev/mapper/live-base']
00:53:28,970 INFO anaconda: Default encoding = utf-8 
00:53:28,997 WARN anaconda: /usr/lib64/python3.5/optparse.py:999: PendingDeprecationWarning: The KSOption class is deprecated and will be removed in pykickstart-3.  Use the argparse module instead.
  option = self.option_class(*args, **kwargs)

00:53:29,016 WARN anaconda: /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages/pyanaconda/pwpolicy.py:101: PendingDeprecationWarning: add_option is deprecated and will be removed in pykickstart-3.  Use add_argument instead.
  op.add_option("--minlen", type="int")

00:53:29,017 INFO anaconda: Parsing kickstart: /usr/share/anaconda/interactive-defaults.ks
00:53:30,071 WARN anaconda: /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages/pyanaconda/pwpolicy.py:117: PendingDeprecationWarning: _setToObj has been renamed to set_to_obj.  The old name will be removed in a future release.
  self._setToObj(self.op, opts, pd)

00:53:30,074 WARN anaconda: /usr/lib64/python3.5/optparse.py:999: PendingDeprecationWarning: The KSOption class is deprecated and will be removed in pykickstart-3.  Use the argparse module instead.
  option = self.option_class(*args, **kwargs)

00:53:30,075 DEBUG anaconda: setting locale to: en_US.UTF-8
00:53:30,092 DEBUG anaconda: network: devices found ['enp1s0f1', 'wlp2s0']
00:53:30,238 DEBUG anaconda: network: ifcfg file for enp1s0f1 not found
00:53:30,290 DEBUG anaconda: network: dumping ifcfg file for default autoconnection on enp1s0f1
00:53:30,301 DEBUG anaconda: network: missing ifcfgs created for devices ['enp1s0f1']
00:53:30,312 DEBUG anaconda: updating host name localhost.localdomain
00:53:30,332 WARN anaconda: /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages/pyanaconda/pwpolicy.py:101: PendingDeprecationWarning: add_option is deprecated and will be removed in pykickstart-3.  Use add_argument instead.
  op.add_option("--minlen", type="int")

00:53:30,333 INFO anaconda: Running Thread: AnaWaitForConnectingNMThread (140476717840128)
00:53:30,347 INFO anaconda: Display mode = g
00:53:30,349 INFO anaconda: 8194716 kB (8002 MB) are available
00:53:30,365 INFO anaconda: check_memory(): total:8002, needed:320, graphical:410
00:53:30,369 INFO anaconda: got 1 NTP servers from DHCP
00:53:30,390 INFO anaconda: Thread Done: AnaWaitForConnectingNMThread (140476717840128)
00:53:30,744 INFO anaconda: Fedora Workstation is the highest priority installclass, using it
00:53:30,835 INFO anaconda: bootloader EFIGRUB on EFI platform
00:53:30,836 INFO anaconda: Detected 7.82 GiB of memory
00:53:30,837 INFO anaconda: Suggested swap size (7.82 GiB) exceeds 10 % of disk space, using 10 % of disk space (0.0) instead.
00:53:30,837 INFO anaconda: Swap attempt of 0.0
00:53:30,838 INFO anaconda: bootloader EFIGRUB on EFI platform
00:53:30,839 INFO anaconda: Running T

Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Joerg Lechner  wrote:
> Hi,
> tested again.
> Acer laptop Aspire E15 E5-571G EFI system
> 64GB USB 3.0 flash medium
>
> Loaded F25 Alpha release Workstation
> dnf update kernel -> got Kernel x86_64 4.8.0-0 rc8.git.0.1.fc25
> made -according to the production process- a successful F25 build on the
> 64GB flash medium
> Tried to boot -> again Dracut error with the warnings:
> - dev/fedora/root does not exist
> - dev/fedora/swap does not exist
> - dev/mapper/fedora-root does not exist
>
> When I looked with F24 onto the F25 build, most partitions did not exist,
> i.e. EFI partition was empty, also GRUB2 was nearly empty,
> the size of the F25 build was was about 1,1GB.
> Kind regards

You're doing a default autopartition installtaion to the USB media?
And it doesn't have an LVM partition for fedora-root and fedora-swap
LV's? That's an installer bug, although without logs from the
installer there's no way to figure out what's going on.



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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
tested again.
Acer laptop Aspire E15 E5-571G EFI system
64GB USB 3.0 flash medium

Loaded F25 Alpha release Workstation
dnf update kernel -> got Kernel x86_64 4.8.0-0 rc8.git.0.1.fc25
made -according to the production process- a successful F25 build on the 64GB 
flash medium
Tried to boot -> again Dracut error with the warnings:
- dev/fedora/root does not exist
- dev/fedora/swap does not exist
- dev/mapper/fedora-root does not exist

When I looked with F24 onto the F25 build, most partitions did not exist, i.e. 
EFI partition was empty, also GRUB2 was nearly empty,
the size of the F25 build was was about 1,1GB.
Kind regards


 

 

 

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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Richard Ryniker  
wrote:> Works for me.  I used a Samsung 940X laptop and a Sandisk 80GB USB3> 
external SSD.>> This is a UEFI machine, and I installed using manual 
partitioning to> re-use partitions on the external device, which contained an 
old Fedora> 23 system.  My purpose here was to preserve an encrypted /home 
partition.> /boot, /boot/efi, /root and a swap partition were reformatted by 
the> installer for the F25 system.>> In order to boot from the external drive, 
I must use the EFI boot loader> - press F10 during start to display a list of 
boot devices, then select> the SanDisk USB drive.Just a guess, but I think that 
when the USB stick isn't present, thefirmware is removing what it considers to 
be a stale NVRAM boot entry.Or it's reordering the boot priority. Otherwise the 
stick would bebooted by default, if present.> The internal drive for this 
machine dual boots Fedora 24 and Windows.> Only the external drive was used by 
Anaconda for the F25 installation.> It might be possible to update GRUB on the 
internal drive so it can boot> F25 from the external drive, but I rather like 
the present state where no> change was made to the internal storage medium.The 
boot manager aspects of GRUB are weak, it still depends on staticconfiguration 
rather than dynamic discovery. Discovery is difficult asos-prober's existence 
and history shows. There's a proposed standardto help, but there's no 
meaningful agreement on it among any of thestake holders.But yes, it's possible 
to statically get a boot entry into GRUB butthen it appears as if it's a valid 
option even when the stick isn'tpresent. If the stick has to be 
recreated/replaced, then that bootentry won't work.-- Chris 
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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Richard Ryniker  wrote:
> Works for me.  I used a Samsung 940X laptop and a Sandisk 80GB USB3
> external SSD.
>
> This is a UEFI machine, and I installed using manual partitioning to
> re-use partitions on the external device, which contained an old Fedora
> 23 system.  My purpose here was to preserve an encrypted /home partition.
> /boot, /boot/efi, /root and a swap partition were reformatted by the
> installer for the F25 system.
>
> In order to boot from the external drive, I must use the EFI boot loader
> - press F10 during start to display a list of boot devices, then select
> the SanDisk USB drive.

Just a guess, but I think that when the USB stick isn't present, the
firmware is removing what it considers to be a stale NVRAM boot entry.
Or it's reordering the boot priority. Otherwise the stick would be
booted by default, if present.


> The internal drive for this machine dual boots Fedora 24 and Windows.
> Only the external drive was used by Anaconda for the F25 installation.
> It might be possible to update GRUB on the internal drive so it can boot
> F25 from the external drive, but I rather like the present state where no
> change was made to the internal storage medium.

The boot manager aspects of GRUB are weak, it still depends on static
configuration rather than dynamic discovery. Discovery is difficult as
os-prober's existence and history shows. There's a proposed standard
to help, but there's no meaningful agreement on it among any of the
stake holders.

But yes, it's possible to statically get a boot entry into GRUB but
then it appears as if it's a valid option even when the stick isn't
present. If the stick has to be recreated/replaced, then that boot
entry won't work.




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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Richard Ryniker
Works for me.  I used a Samsung 940X laptop and a Sandisk 80GB USB3
external SSD.

This is a UEFI machine, and I installed using manual partitioning to
re-use partitions on the external device, which contained an old Fedora
23 system.  My purpose here was to preserve an encrypted /home partition.
/boot, /boot/efi, /root and a swap partition were reformatted by the
installer for the F25 system.

In order to boot from the external drive, I must use the EFI boot loader
- press F10 during start to display a list of boot devices, then select
the SanDisk USB drive.

The internal drive for this machine dual boots Fedora 24 and Windows.
Only the external drive was used by Anaconda for the F25 installation.
It might be possible to update GRUB on the internal drive so it can boot
F25 from the external drive, but I rather like the present state where no
change was made to the internal storage medium.
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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Viorel Tabara
On Fri Sep 30 2016 10:39:07 GMT-0600 (MDT) Chris Murphy 
> OK but what is the bug ID?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1371661 

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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Adam Williamson
 wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-09-30 at 02:46 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am using Fedora since a very long time privately, I have started with 
>> Redhat, when Fedora came up I switched to Fedora. I use always two systems 
>> Windows and Fedora quasi paralell. This means if in a function Windows is 
>> better Windows, if Fedora is better Fedora. Partly I had 2 disks in the 
>> system one for Windows, one for Fedora. But since I work with laptops I use 
>> Fedora on USB connected media, currently Fedora on a 64GB usb 3.0 connected 
>> flash medium. Fedora is in this configuration -as I feel- quite quick, as it 
>> would be on the internal disk. As mass storage I use the laptop internal 
>> Windows disk. I saw that data transfering from the Laptop internal disk to 
>> an external disk and vice versa is much more quicker, when it's controlled 
>> from Fedora on usb flash medium, then it is, when controlled from the laptop 
>> internal disk, there are many examples where fedora is comparable ( or 
>> better) as the Apps of Windows.
>>
>> Since development of F24 I have problems with testing in my small
>> corner "Fedora paralell to Windows on usb connected media". In F24
>> there was no dual boot Windows - Fedora possible  - requirement for
>> Final, this had worked always in the previous "editions" of Fedora.
>> Now in F25 it is not possible to install F25 Alpha on an usb
>> connected medium - not on an usb flash medium, not on an external
>> disk. I filed a bug against dracut - dracut showed the error,
>> possibly I should have filed against Anaconda   - nearly no reaction
>> on this bug - was not worth the invested work.

OK but what is the bug ID?


>>
>> It might be, that Fedora is mainly used on bigger systems, and not so
>> important for smaller systems, but also on smaller systems there are
>> people, who could learn to love Fedora, if there is more promotion
>> for this part of the computer community. Especially Windows oriented
>> users.
>
> In general, yes, permanent installs to removable media just aren't
> really a priority for development or testing. I've had your bug open
> for a couple of weeks, intending to test it out locally if I get a
> chance, but there's just always been something more important. I'll
> still try and get to it.

Yeah, it'd be neat to find a way to recruit people who individually
are interested in solving a problem, but have only narrow expertise. A
way to put together a team. Something like a dating app for developers
and projects, haha.


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Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-09-30 at 02:46 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
> Hi,
> I am using Fedora since a very long time privately, I have started with 
> Redhat, when Fedora came up I switched to Fedora. I use always two systems 
> Windows and Fedora quasi paralell. This means if in a function Windows is 
> better Windows, if Fedora is better Fedora. Partly I had 2 disks in the 
> system one for Windows, one for Fedora. But since I work with laptops I use 
> Fedora on USB connected media, currently Fedora on a 64GB usb 3.0 connected 
> flash medium. Fedora is in this configuration -as I feel- quite quick, as it 
> would be on the internal disk. As mass storage I use the laptop internal 
> Windows disk. I saw that data transfering from the Laptop internal disk to an 
> external disk and vice versa is much more quicker, when it's controlled from 
> Fedora on usb flash medium, then it is, when controlled from the laptop 
> internal disk, there are many examples where fedora is comparable ( or 
> better) as the Apps of Windows.
> 
> Since development of F24 I have problems with testing in my small
> corner "Fedora paralell to Windows on usb connected media". In F24
> there was no dual boot Windows - Fedora possible  - requirement for
> Final, this had worked always in the previous "editions" of Fedora.
> Now in F25 it is not possible to install F25 Alpha on an usb
> connected medium - not on an usb flash medium, not on an external
> disk. I filed a bug against dracut - dracut showed the error,
> possibly I should have filed against Anaconda   - nearly no reaction
> on this bug - was not worth the invested work.
> 
> It might be, that Fedora is mainly used on bigger systems, and not so
> important for smaller systems, but also on smaller systems there are
> people, who could learn to love Fedora, if there is more promotion
> for this part of the computer community. Especially Windows oriented
> users.

In general, yes, permanent installs to removable media just aren't
really a priority for development or testing. I've had your bug open
for a couple of weeks, intending to test it out locally if I get a
chance, but there's just always been something more important. I'll
still try and get to it.
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Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-29 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
I am using Fedora since a very long time privately, I have started with Redhat, 
when Fedora came up I switched to Fedora. I use always two systems Windows and 
Fedora quasi paralell. This means if in a function Windows is better Windows, 
if Fedora is better Fedora. Partly I had 2 disks in the system one for Windows, 
one for Fedora. But since I work with laptops I use Fedora on USB connected 
media, currently Fedora on a 64GB usb 3.0 connected flash medium. Fedora is in 
this configuration -as I feel- quite quick, as it would be on the internal 
disk. As mass storage I use the laptop internal Windows disk. I saw that data 
transfering from the Laptop internal disk to an external disk and vice versa is 
much more quicker, when it's controlled from Fedora on usb flash medium, then 
it is, when controlled from the laptop internal disk, there are many examples 
where fedora is comparable ( or better) as the Apps of Windows.

Since development of F24 I have problems with testing in my small corner 
"Fedora paralell to Windows on usb connected media". In F24 there was no dual 
boot Windows - Fedora possible  - requirement for Final, this had worked always 
in the previous "editions" of Fedora. Now in F25 it is not possible to install 
F25 Alpha on an usb connected medium - not on an usb flash medium, not on an 
external disk. I filed a bug against dracut - dracut showed the error, possibly 
I should have filed against Anaconda   - nearly no reaction on this bug - was 
not worth the invested work.

It might be, that Fedora is mainly used on bigger systems, and not so important 
for smaller systems, but also on smaller systems there are people, who could 
learn to love Fedora, if there is more promotion for this part of the computer 
community. Especially Windows oriented users.
Kind regards
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