Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On 03/16/2018 11:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 13:51 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: >> Fair enough, that's probably a prudent thing to do. I've split it out >> from the rest of the 3.28.0 update now: >> >> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/abattis-cantarell-fonts-0.101-1.fc28 > > Thanks. I mean, I'd suggest not sending it to F28 at all (i.e. > unpushing that update; keeping the update around will probably mean it > gets karma and then gets auto-pushed when the Beta freeze is lifted) > till madigens has had time to clean things up; it clearly looks worse > than 0.0.25 for now, so why not just keep that one in F28 until the new > series is at least roughly on a level with it? It's not like pulling > it in is really *dangerous*, it's just slightly inconvenient to openQA, > so if it turns out that it *does* get improved in time for Final, we > can always just pull it in then. > > We can keep the new series in Rawhide, of course, seems reasonable to > assume madigens will have got it looking nicer by the time we get to > F29. Good point. I removed the "auto-request stable" flag on the Cantarell update now to make sure it doesn't accidentally go to stable and I'll bring it up at next Workstation WG's meeting to make a decision for F28. -- Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On 03/17/2018 03:23 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > Kalev, > > I loaded the ISO you provided onto a bare metal system (Lenovo > ThinkCenter M58P with E8400 processor) via DVD. I use US English. I > tried most of the settings in the Settings Panel (some don't apply to > this system like no bluetooth) and I made several changes using the > Gnome-Tweak-Tool. I loaded my three favorite shell-extensions (Freon, > Activities Configurator, and Topicons Plus). I also started, but did not > use Librioffice Writer and Calc. Everything worked fine. The only > anomaly I encountered was on the Lock Screen. The time was displayed > fine, but the day and date line below the time kept shifting between its > normal position and to be aligned with the left end of the time. The > timing of the shifts seemed random and were less than a minute apart. Thanks for testing it! Could you file the time shifting issue at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell please? Thanks, Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
Kalev, I loaded the ISO you provided onto a bare metal system (Lenovo ThinkCenter M58P with E8400 processor) via DVD. I use US English. I tried most of the settings in the Settings Panel (some don't apply to this system like no bluetooth) and I made several changes using the Gnome-Tweak-Tool. I loaded my three favorite shell-extensions (Freon, Activities Configurator, and Topicons Plus). I also started, but did not use Librioffice Writer and Calc. Everything worked fine. The only anomaly I encountered was on the Lock Screen. The time was displayed fine, but the day and date line below the time kept shifting between its normal position and to be aligned with the left end of the time. The timing of the shifts seemed random and were less than a minute apart. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 03/16/2018 06:52 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: Hi test list, I'm hoping we could have GNOME 3.28.0 in F28 Beta as a Freeze Exception. I've filed a bug tracking this, and I hope we can discuss this further during the blocker review meeting on Monday. Bodhi update for 3.28.0: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-5ebe0eb1f2 FE bug for including 3.28.0: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1554966 We have 3.28 release candidate (3.27.92) in F28 stable right now and 3.28.0 is the final release; would be really nice to ship Beta with the final release so that we can get more testing for the code we'll be shipping in F28 final. This helps both GNOME upstream developers and Fedora by helping us catch bugs earlier and fix them. I'll be on lookout this week and next week for any possible regressions that the 3.28.0 update might bring, compared to what we currently have in stable and happy to quickly fix up anything that comes up. (Fixing for Beta might be just reverting certain patches/going back to 3.27.92 versions of individual packages, but I'm confident we can quickly fix up anything that could be a Beta blocker so that we can include all or most of the 3.28.0 update in Beta). I put together a Workstation ISO image for easy testing. It should be exactly the same as today's Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-28-20180315.n.0 compose, except that any updates from the 3.28.0 update are included. Here's the ISO image: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-28-20180315.n.0-GNOME-3.28.0.iso I'd appreciate a lot if people could give it a quick spin and see if they can find anything that looks like a regression compared to the stable F28 images, and then we can further discuss this at the blocker review meeting on Monday. Thanks so much and have a nice Friday and weekend everyone! Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 13:51 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 03/16/2018 01:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 11:52 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd appreciate a lot if people could give it a quick spin and see if
> > > they can find anything that looks like a regression compared to the
> > > stable F28 images, and then we can further discuss this at the blocker
> > > review meeting on Monday.
> >
> > The new version of Cantarell is, by its own authors admission, a
> > regression for all practical purposes:
> >
> > adamw: thanks for the feedback :) cantarell's spacing
> > does indeed look a bit funky... in gtk3 and firefox. that's due to a
> > missing technical detail called "subpixel positioning". Spacing looks
> > more consistent in Qt apps and Chrome. there also isn't any kerning
> > yet, so things like AVA, To, etc. look gap-y
> >
> > So, it looks fine...except in GTK+ 3 (i.e. basically all of
> > Workstation) and Firefox (Workstation's default browser).
> >
> > That seems like a problem. :P (Never mind that it just chucks out
> > Cyrillic coverage, which the previous version had). Can we consider
> > sticking with the old one at least until it's clear if this will be
> > cleaned up in time for Final?
>
> Fair enough, that's probably a prudent thing to do. I've split it out
> from the rest of the 3.28.0 update now:
>
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/abattis-cantarell-fonts-0.101-1.fc28
Thanks. I mean, I'd suggest not sending it to F28 at all (i.e.
unpushing that update; keeping the update around will probably mean it
gets karma and then gets auto-pushed when the Beta freeze is lifted)
till madigens has had time to clean things up; it clearly looks worse
than 0.0.25 for now, so why not just keep that one in F28 until the new
series is at least roughly on a level with it? It's not like pulling
it in is really *dangerous*, it's just slightly inconvenient to openQA,
so if it turns out that it *does* get improved in time for Final, we
can always just pull it in then.
We can keep the new series in Rawhide, of course, seems reasonable to
assume madigens will have got it looking nicer by the time we get to
F29.
Anyway, that's just my vote. Here's some of the links I posted to
openQA screenshots that kinda flag up the issues in 101:
https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/204833#step/disk_custom_ext3/11
https://openqa.stg.fedoraproject.org/tests/255085#step/disk_custom_ext3/11
(set the "Candidate needle:" dropdown to None to see the clean
screenshot)
The former is with Cantarell 0.0.25, the latter with 0.101. In some
ways 101 is a bit of an improvement already ('AVAILABLE SPACE' and
'TOTAL SPACE' look a bit better to me, for e.g.) but overall it seems
clearly worse. The spacing between glyphs in words is pretty
inconsistent...you can see it clearly in text like "BIOS Boot",
"Encrypt" and "Modify". The spacing between words is often not much
bigger than the spacing between glyphs in words, which has the effect
of making the words seem to run together - this is clearest in "New
Fedora Rawhide Installation" and the block of italic text at bottom
right.
Another example I found this morning is:
https://openqa.stg.fedoraproject.org/tests/255343#step/_graphical_wait_login/10
Especially the text "Connect Your Online Accounts" has all kinds of
spacing issues there, there appears to be almost no space between
"Online" and "Accounts" in particular, whereas there's a lot of space
between the "Y" and "o" of "Your", and between the "o", "n", "n" and
"e" in "Connect", for instance. Here's how that screen looks with
0.0.25:
https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/202838#step/_graphical_wait_login/9
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Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On 03/16/2018 01:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 11:52 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: >> >> I'd appreciate a lot if people could give it a quick spin and see if >> they can find anything that looks like a regression compared to the >> stable F28 images, and then we can further discuss this at the blocker >> review meeting on Monday. > > The new version of Cantarell is, by its own authors admission, a > regression for all practical purposes: > > adamw: thanks for the feedback :) cantarell's spacing > does indeed look a bit funky... in gtk3 and firefox. that's due to a > missing technical detail called "subpixel positioning". Spacing looks > more consistent in Qt apps and Chrome. there also isn't any kerning > yet, so things like AVA, To, etc. look gap-y > > So, it looks fine...except in GTK+ 3 (i.e. basically all of > Workstation) and Firefox (Workstation's default browser). > > That seems like a problem. :P (Never mind that it just chucks out > Cyrillic coverage, which the previous version had). Can we consider > sticking with the old one at least until it's clear if this will be > cleaned up in time for Final? Fair enough, that's probably a prudent thing to do. I've split it out from the rest of the 3.28.0 update now: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/abattis-cantarell-fonts-0.101-1.fc28 -- Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 11:52 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: > > I'd appreciate a lot if people could give it a quick spin and see if > they can find anything that looks like a regression compared to the > stable F28 images, and then we can further discuss this at the blocker > review meeting on Monday. The new version of Cantarell is, by its own authors admission, a regression for all practical purposes: adamw: thanks for the feedback :) cantarell's spacing does indeed look a bit funky... in gtk3 and firefox. that's due to a missing technical detail called "subpixel positioning". Spacing looks more consistent in Qt apps and Chrome. there also isn't any kerning yet, so things like AVA, To, etc. look gap-y So, it looks fine...except in GTK+ 3 (i.e. basically all of Workstation) and Firefox (Workstation's default browser). That seems like a problem. :P (Never mind that it just chucks out Cyrillic coverage, which the previous version had). Can we consider sticking with the old one at least until it's clear if this will be cleaned up in time for Final? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On 03/16/2018 12:35 PM, Felipe Borges wrote: > I have tried to boot up the image above but it fails for me. After > grub it spams intermittently the terminal with > > [dracut-initqueue[582]: Warning: dractur-initqueue timeout - starting > timeout scripts > > And after some time it falls back into emergency mode. > > The media test also fails. I have downloaded it three times to make sure. > > Has somebody else run into the same problem? Woops. I ran out of disk quota when copying the iso file and didn't notice it. Should be fixed now, can you try downloading again? -- Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
2018-03-16 12:35 GMT+01:00 Felipe Borges : > > And after some time it falls back into emergency mode. > > The media test also fails. I have downloaded it three times to make sure. > > Has somebody else run into the same problem? Same problem here. A. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
On 03/16/2018 12:13 PM, Charles-Antoine Couret wrote: > I have an issue with Gnome-Shell which is crashing every time before > displaying applications. I have to downgrade to a beta release to be > able to use it. > > I reported a bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1551749 > > Apart from mutter/gnome-shell/mesa issue, other components are working > well with the latest release. Thanks for the feedback. I was mostly looking for regression testing compared to what we have in F28 stable right now. In the ticket you say that the F28 stable packages (mutter 3.27.92/gnome-shell 3.27.92) are already crashing for you, which means the 3.28.0 update doesn't regress this further. I know this might sound arrogant when I say it like that, but it's an important distinction here because even though 3.28.0 doesn't fix your issue, it fixes a number of other problems and is probably still worth including in Beta. Your issue is probably still important to analyze and fix, but not in the "should we include 3.28.0 over 3.27.92 in F28 Beta" context. Hope this clears it up, Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
Hi, I have an issue with Gnome-Shell which is crashing every time. I have to downgrade to a beta release to be able to use it. I reported a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1551749 Apart from mutter/gnome-shell/mesa issue, other components are working well with the latest release. Regards, Charles-Antoine Couret ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Help test GNOME 3.28.0 megaupdate
Hi test list, I'm hoping we could have GNOME 3.28.0 in F28 Beta as a Freeze Exception. I've filed a bug tracking this, and I hope we can discuss this further during the blocker review meeting on Monday. Bodhi update for 3.28.0: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-5ebe0eb1f2 FE bug for including 3.28.0: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1554966 We have 3.28 release candidate (3.27.92) in F28 stable right now and 3.28.0 is the final release; would be really nice to ship Beta with the final release so that we can get more testing for the code we'll be shipping in F28 final. This helps both GNOME upstream developers and Fedora by helping us catch bugs earlier and fix them. I'll be on lookout this week and next week for any possible regressions that the 3.28.0 update might bring, compared to what we currently have in stable and happy to quickly fix up anything that comes up. (Fixing for Beta might be just reverting certain patches/going back to 3.27.92 versions of individual packages, but I'm confident we can quickly fix up anything that could be a Beta blocker so that we can include all or most of the 3.28.0 update in Beta). I put together a Workstation ISO image for easy testing. It should be exactly the same as today's Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-28-20180315.n.0 compose, except that any updates from the 3.28.0 update are included. Here's the ISO image: https://kalev.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-28-20180315.n.0-GNOME-3.28.0.iso I'd appreciate a lot if people could give it a quick spin and see if they can find anything that looks like a regression compared to the stable F28 images, and then we can further discuss this at the blocker review meeting on Monday. Thanks so much and have a nice Friday and weekend everyone! Kalev ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
