Re: Installing Rawhide - Re: Remember my F20 nvram issues with Lenovo x120e? More sagas

2014-06-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 18:35 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 On 05/30/2014 03:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 
  Or I COULD do a rawhide install.  Point me where to get the ISO image
  and I am willing it give it a go.  I DO at least have this system to
  work from.
  I updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide recently to try and
  make this sort of thing clearer, can you check that and see if it works
  as a useful guide?
 
 OK.  I want to download a DVD iso image to do a install to test to see 
 if you have things working for this Lenovo.
 
 I assume I go to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/releng-dash/
 
 But there I do not see install images.  I see netinstal, but my network 
 connect is too slow for that.  And I see Fedora-live.
 
 If I have to mirror the repo here I can do that, as I do it for Fedora 
 19, 20, and Centos 6...

There are no nightly DVD builds, only live and netinst, I'm afraid.
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Re: Installing Rawhide - Re: Remember my F20 nvram issues with Lenovo x120e? More sagas

2014-06-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 06/02/2014 02:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 18:35 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 05/30/2014 03:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Or I COULD do a rawhide install.  Point me where to get the ISO image
and I am willing it give it a go.  I DO at least have this system to
work from.

I updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide recently to try and
make this sort of thing clearer, can you check that and see if it works
as a useful guide?

OK.  I want to download a DVD iso image to do a install to test to see
if you have things working for this Lenovo.

I assume I go to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/releng-dash/

But there I do not see install images.  I see netinstal, but my network
connect is too slow for that.  And I see Fedora-live.

If I have to mirror the repo here I can do that, as I do it for Fedora
19, 20, and Centos 6...

There are no nightly DVD builds, only live and netinst, I'm afraid.
Another thought.  Would doing a disk install of the live image be an 
equiv test for the nvram issue?


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Re: Installing Rawhide - Re: Remember my F20 nvram issues with Lenovo x120e? More sagas

2014-06-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 07:34 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 On 06/02/2014 02:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 18:35 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  On 05/30/2014 03:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 
  Or I COULD do a rawhide install.  Point me where to get the ISO image
  and I am willing it give it a go.  I DO at least have this system to
  work from.
  I updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide recently to try and
  make this sort of thing clearer, can you check that and see if it works
  as a useful guide?
  OK.  I want to download a DVD iso image to do a install to test to see
  if you have things working for this Lenovo.
 
  I assume I go to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/releng-dash/
 
  But there I do not see install images.  I see netinstal, but my network
  connect is too slow for that.  And I see Fedora-live.
 
  If I have to mirror the repo here I can do that, as I do it for Fedora
  19, 20, and Centos 6...
  There are no nightly DVD builds, only live and netinst, I'm afraid.

 Another thought.  Would doing a disk install of the live image be an 
 equiv test for the nvram issue?

The live install uses the same bootloader installation process as the
non-live install, yes.
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Re: Installing Rawhide - Re: Remember my F20 nvram issues with Lenovo x120e? More sagas

2014-06-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 07:33 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 On 06/02/2014 02:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 18:35 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  On 05/30/2014 03:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 
  Or I COULD do a rawhide install.  Point me where to get the ISO image
  and I am willing it give it a go.  I DO at least have this system to
  work from.
  I updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide recently to try and
  make this sort of thing clearer, can you check that and see if it works
  as a useful guide?
  OK.  I want to download a DVD iso image to do a install to test to see
  if you have things working for this Lenovo.
 
  I assume I go to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/releng-dash/
 
  But there I do not see install images.  I see netinstal, but my network
  connect is too slow for that.  And I see Fedora-live.
 
  If I have to mirror the repo here I can do that, as I do it for Fedora
  19, 20, and Centos 6...
  There are no nightly DVD builds, only live and netinst, I'm afraid.
 So how can I rsync the repo for netinst?
 
 For Fedora 20 x86 I do:
 
 /usr/bin/rsync -auv --delete --exclude=debug/ --exclude=drpms/ 
 rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/ 
 /var/flexshare/shares/repo/fedora/20/updates/x86_64
 
 As a nightly cron job.
 
 For the intial download of the OS, it was a similar rsync.

You'd want to sync the development/rawhide tree. Probably
rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/development/rawhide .
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Installing Rawhide - Re: Remember my F20 nvram issues with Lenovo x120e? More sagas

2014-06-01 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 05/30/2014 03:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 14:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Or I COULD do a rawhide install.  Point me where to get the ISO image
and I am willing it give it a go.  I DO at least have this system to
work from.

I updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide recently to try and
make this sort of thing clearer, can you check that and see if it works
as a useful guide?


OK.  I want to download a DVD iso image to do a install to test to see 
if you have things working for this Lenovo.


I assume I go to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/releng-dash/

But there I do not see install images.  I see netinstal, but my network 
connect is too slow for that.  And I see Fedora-live.


If I have to mirror the repo here I can do that, as I do it for Fedora 
19, 20, and Centos 6...



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Re: Success installing Rawhide 3.15 RC1

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 19:55 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
 Installed the creative and development workstation et al. with the FC20 
 pxeboot.
 No lockups so far.
 

What about sound?  Does it work with 3-15 kernels?


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Re: Success installing Rawhide 3.15 RC1

2014-04-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:46 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 19:55 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
  Installed the creative and development workstation et al. with the FC20 
  pxeboot.
  No lockups so far.
  
 
 What about sound?  Does it work with 3-15 kernels?

Your issue with sound is most likely to be device-specific.
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Re: Success installing Rawhide 3.15 RC1

2014-04-16 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

On 04/16/2014 06:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 17:46 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:

On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 19:55 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:

Installed the creative and development workstation et al. with the FC20
pxeboot.
No lockups so far.


What about sound?  Does it work with 3-15 kernels?

Your issue with sound is most likely to be device-specific.

Can't answer about sound as I was working on other stuff.
Then I made the mistake of installing today's Rawhide on it.
Today's Rawhide is back to locking up before getting to the
desktop.   Bit of a dissappointment.  Better luck tomorrow.

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Success installing Rawhide 3.15 RC1

2014-04-15 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Installed the creative and development workstation et al. with the FC20 
pxeboot.

No lockups so far.

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Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

I've tried several variations on installing Rawhide on a spare machine.

In every instance, the fascist new Anaconda installs without reporting 
errors.

Booting complains about a missing splash file but proceeds.
The boot next complains about a premature end of file on the kernel and
everything goes downhill from there.

Machine: AMD 6000 with 2 GB RAM and SATA HD.  This machine installs and
runs other versions of Linux including Ultimate Edition 3.4 and Fedora 17.

Is there a file that installs a rawhide/F18  that boots and runs?

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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Lumens
 In every instance, the fascist new Anaconda installs without
 reporting errors.

What are you even talking about?

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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Frank Murphy

On 17/07/12 19:34, Chris Lumens wrote:

In every instance, the fascist new Anaconda installs without
reporting errors.


What are you even talking about?

- Chris



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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Lumens
 Probably talking about the new Anaconda-UI?

But it's not in rawhide yet.

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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Frank Murphy

On 17/07/12 19:30, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

I've tried several variations on installing Rawhide on a spare machine.



More info needed Chuck.
Rawhide cannot be installed from a LiveCD\DVD.
Preupgrade or Boot FPO.

It can only be installed via yum.

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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 19:44 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
 On 17/07/12 19:30, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
  I've tried several variations on installing Rawhide on a spare machine.
 
 
 More info needed Chuck.
 Rawhide cannot be installed from a LiveCD\DVD.
 Preupgrade or Boot FPO.
 
 It can only be installed via yum.

It sounds like he was trying to do a production install from the newUI
test images, which we _specifically_ warned against doing.
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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Andre Robatino
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R caf at omen.com writes:

 Booting complains about a missing splash file but proceeds.
 The boot next complains about a premature end of file on the kernel and
 everything goes downhill from there.

This is a known grub2 bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=836695




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Re: Installing Rawhide?

2012-07-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel

On 07/17/2012 02:44 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 17/07/12 19:30, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

I've tried several variations on installing Rawhide on a spare machine.



More info needed Chuck.
Rawhide cannot be installed from a LiveCD\DVD.
Preupgrade or Boot FPO.

It can only be installed via yum.



Probably pointed repo= to a rawhide repo somewhere.

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Installing Rawhide

2012-01-02 Thread Andre Robatino
Andre Robatino robatino at fedoraproject.org writes:

 For what it's worth, a few days ago I cloned my F16 x86_64 VirtualBox VM (with
 updates-testing enabled) and then upgraded it to Rawhide. It has a ton of
 broken dependencies, and X doesn't work. At least I can use a VT to 
 distro-sync
 each day.

After a lot of removing and reinstalling packages, I got rid of most of the
breakage. Only 8 packages couldn't be reinstalled: clutter-gesture,
clutter-imcontext, and kdeutils-printer-applet (which appear to not exist in
Rawhide), kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-libs (blocked due to
kdeplasma-addons-4.7.95-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libattica.so.0()(64bit)),
libkgeomap (blocked due to libkgeomap-2.3.0-2.fc17.x86_64 requires
libmarblewidget.so.12()(64bit)), and kipi-plugins and kipi-plugins-libs (which
require libkgeomap). Distro-syncing now runs without any warnings or errors. X
still doesn't work, though, so I still use the VT.




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Re: Installing Rawhide

2012-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy

On 02/01/12 19:28, Andre Robatino wrote:
 Only 8 packages couldn't be reinstalled: clutter-gesture,

clutter-imcontext, and kdeutils-printer-applet (which appear to not exist in
Rawhide),


That is why with rawhide, I would encourage tesdters\users to install
yum-plugin-local and create a local repo.
So downgrade is possible.

If you can get the versions of the missing rpms.
I will have a look for you.
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Installing Rawhide

2012-01-02 Thread Andre Robatino
Frank Murphy frankly3d at gmail.com writes:

 On 02/01/12 19:28, Andre Robatino wrote:
   Only 8 packages couldn't be reinstalled: clutter-gesture,
  clutter-imcontext, and kdeutils-printer-applet (which appear to not exist in
  Rawhide),
 
 That is why with rawhide, I would encourage tesdters\users to install
 yum-plugin-local and create a local repo.
 So downgrade is possible.
 
 If you can get the versions of the missing rpms.
 I will have a look for you.
 Please reply offlist.

I don't really care about the missing packages (or even know what most of them
are), except that I keep a list and will try to reinstall them in case they are
only missing temporarily. I'm mostly trying to reproduce what a clean Rawhide
install would have.




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Installing Rawhide

2012-01-02 Thread Andre Robatino
Andre Robatino robatino at fedoraproject.org writes:

 I don't really care about the missing packages (or even know what most of them
 are), except that I keep a list and will try to reinstall them in case they 
 are
 only missing temporarily. I'm mostly trying to reproduce what a clean Rawhide
 install would have.

clutter-gesture and clutter-imcontext were blocked from Rawhide (
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4888 ). kdeutils-printer-applet will be
renamed, probably as kde-printer-applet (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=757866 ) but there are no builds for
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Re: Installing Rawhide

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy

On 01/01/12 03:47, Frederic Muller wrote:


I' ve been trying to install rawhide from the lastest nightly build
(from 28) and it fails to boot.



I was wondering whether at this point it is something actually worth
reporting and troubleshooting


No don't report,
until such time as Rawhide goes to F17-Branched,
when installinng will become crucial.


or whether I should just install rawhide

through one of the other possible methods (like upgrading F16 to rawhide).


For the moment go this route,
and flag thing as you come across them.
Checking for existing reports at bugzilla.redhat.org.

If no existing report, it always good practice,
to run the problem by this list,
to see if anyone else has run into it.

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Re: Installing Rawhide

2012-01-01 Thread Frederic Muller

On 01/01/2012 05:38 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 01/01/12 03:47, Frederic Muller wrote:


I' ve been trying to install rawhide from the lastest nightly build
(from 28) and it fails to boot.



I was wondering whether at this point it is something actually worth
reporting and troubleshooting


No don't report,
until such time as Rawhide goes to F17-Branched,
when installinng will become crucial.


or whether I should just install rawhide

through one of the other possible methods (like upgrading F16 to
rawhide).


For the moment go this route,
and flag thing as you come across them.
Checking for existing reports at bugzilla.redhat.org.

If no existing report, it always good practice,
to run the problem by this list,
to see if anyone else has run into it.



Thank you Andre and Frank for your prompt and very informative 
responses. I' m having other weird issues with F16 freshly installed 
copying my backup back through USB:

- transfer speed decreasing from 30 MB/s down to 5 MB/s very quickly
- the machine taken down to its knees after about 30 minutes of copying 
(I'm trying to copy ~90GB). The laptop is 5 years old (dual core 2Ghz) 
with 2GB of ram. I'll check on bugzilla and will try to install Rawhide 
differently, check how USB copying performs and so on.


Thanks again.

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Re: Installing Rawhide

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy

On 01/01/12 10:25, Frederic Muller wrote:
 backup back through USB:

- transfer speed decreasing from 30 MB/s down to 5 MB/s very quickly
- the machine taken down to its knees after about 30 minutes of copying
(I'm trying to copy ~90GB). The laptop is 5 years old (dual core 2Ghz)
with 2GB of ram.


Can't help you there, as I found years ago,
even on MS usb to be the snail mail of transfers.
Now backup by cat6 to a raid1 nas

I'll check on bugzilla and will try to install Rawhide

differently,


yum update is currently the only method of doing rawhide,
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Re: Installing Rawhide

2012-01-01 Thread Frederic Muller

On 01/01/2012 06:36 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 01/01/12 10:25, Frederic Muller wrote:
backup back through USB:

- transfer speed decreasing from 30 MB/s down to 5 MB/s very quickly
- the machine taken down to its knees after about 30 minutes of copying
(I'm trying to copy ~90GB). The laptop is 5 years old (dual core 2Ghz)
with 2GB of ram.


Can't help you there, as I found years ago,
even on MS usb to be the snail mail of transfers.
Now backup by cat6 to a raid1 nas

I'll check on bugzilla and will try to install Rawhide

differently,


yum update is currently the only method of doing rawhide,
it not installible per say.



Hi!

Sending this email from Rawhide. I used a F16 image and anaconda as 
described in the wiki: I changed the repo during installation to only 
enable rawhide and do a net install. It worked like a charm. So thanks a 
lot.


Next email will be about my most immediate issue: CPU getting over 100C 
within minutes and machine shutting down.


Thank you for all the tips.

Fred

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Installing Rawhide

2011-12-31 Thread Frederic Muller

Hi!

First a happy new year to all and thank you for making Fedora what it 
is. It's definitely something I (silently) truly appreciate and use daily.


I' ve been trying to install rawhide from the lastest nightly build 
(from 28) and it fails to boot. There is a error message about the 
kernel not understanding the parameter giving through the boot command 
line (I can give the exact message if it's worth it).


I was wondering whether at this point it is something actually worth 
reporting and troubleshooting or whether I should just install rawhide 
through one of the other possible methods (like upgrading F16 to rawhide).


Thank you for the tips and advice.

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Installing Rawhide

2011-12-31 Thread Andre Robatino
Frederic Muller fred at cm17.com writes:

 I was wondering whether at this point it is something actually worth
 reporting and troubleshooting or whether I should just install rawhide
 through one of the other possible methods (like upgrading F16 to
 rawhide).

For what it's worth, a few days ago I cloned my F16 x86_64 VirtualBox VM (with
updates-testing enabled) and then upgraded it to Rawhide. It has a ton of
broken dependencies, and X doesn't work. At least I can use a VT to distro-sync
each day.



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