Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 11:27 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:23, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Please, if you are not willing to file bugs, what you are doing here? Matěj Who said I wasn' t?. Just posted it here to try see if others shared my view or maybe there was some trick to make it behave differently. I think it only pops up on media that GNOME considers to be 'photo media'. I'm not sure the heuristics here aren't out of date, though. I think anything with a DCIM directory, basically, gets treated as if all it had on it was photos - but these days just about any SD card that's ever been connected to a phone will have a DCIM directory...I don't know what the answer is, but I think 'assume anything that has pictures on it is exclusively to do with pictures and just open up Shotwell when it's plugged in' is not really good enough. desktop@ would probably be the list for this, though. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/17/2012 12:14 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 00:54, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, I don't see what you are seeing. What else have you installed? Maybe shotwell is not installed by default on the livecd? I made an install to hd of f17 beta (rc3). It is not. That is why I said I installed both shotwell and digikam. (After doing an install to HD, which I failed to mention.) I *never* saw the behavior you reported with shotwell, digikam, and now gwenview installed. So, I don't know how you got into the situation you did in order to complain about it. So, with that in mind, I don't feel there is anything to tell anyone unless the issue can be reproduced. Did the medium you tested with have a DCIM directory? If you create one, do you start seeing what Fernando sees? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 04/17/2012 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Did the medium you tested with have a DCIM directory? If you create one, do you start seeing what Fernando sees? That does seem to have been the key. Previously my medium didn't have a DCIM directory. After adding it, my choices are to either 1. Open with Shotwell 2. Eject I would agree that to be a limiting choice. KDE, which I use, give you a wider choice. So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a bugzillaunless it has already been reported. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 04/17/2012 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Did the medium you tested with have a DCIM directory? If you create one, do you start seeing what Fernando sees? That does seem to have been the key. Previously my medium didn't have a DCIM directory. After adding it, my choices are to either 1. Open with Shotwell 2. Eject I would agree that to be a limiting choice. KDE, which I use, give you a wider choice. So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a bugzillaunless it has already been reported. And, it also should offer more than one import choice if capable applications other than ShotWell have been installed -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a bugzillaunless it has already been reported. Shouldn't you report that directly to gnome? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 04/17/2012 09:32 PM, Bahtiar Gadimov wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a bugzillaunless it has already been reported. Shouldn't you report that directly to gnome? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi In the past, bugzillas that weren't specific to Fedora were kicked upstairs by the fedora package maintainer. Is that no longer the case? Besides, I'm a KDE user. So, I've no clue as to what component within GNOME this should be reported against. Is is only a configuration issue? If you know what component is involved, please let me know. I'll be happy to write bugzillas in both places if I have to. What's another login? :-) -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 22:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/17/2012 09:32 PM, Bahtiar Gadimov wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a bugzillaunless it has already been reported. Shouldn't you report that directly to gnome? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi In the past, bugzillas that weren't specific to Fedora were kicked upstairs by the fedora package maintainer. Is that no longer the case? It is, but if we already know it's not a Fedora-specific bug, why not cut out the middleman and save everyone time and trouble? Besides, I'm a KDE user. So, I've no clue as to what component within GNOME this should be reported against. Is is only a configuration issue? I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just pick Shell or Nautilus, it'll get corrected by the maintainer if it's wrong -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
Fernando Cassia wrote: That´s why I think other options should be offered, like ¨open folder¨ or ¨do nothing¨. Look in System Settings-Removable Media. There are a bunch of settings there that might help you. In F16, I tried to set the photo option to just open with files, but it didn't seem to actually work. I ended up just turning off the checkbox on the bottom for no auto handling, which works just fine for me. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 17:26, Samuel Sieb sam...@sieb.net wrote: Look in System Settings-Removable Media. There are a bunch of settings there that might help you. Yes, but that removes the feature system-wide. Instead, what I propose is a way to continue having those notifications, but be able to run Shotwell when needed, or escape (do nothing, open folder) when one so wishes. IE I might insert a pen drive (or SD card) to copy some files to it, not necessarily to index the pictures that might be available on the media. Yet, in other instances, i MIGHT want to run shotwell. Switching the global settings for removable storage back and forth doesn' t strike me as a very sensible proposition... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 14.4.2012 15:14, Fernando Cassia wrote: I find the photo import app in Fedora 17 the most intrusive, annoying piece of software I've seen in a long, long time. It certainly must be said ... but not here. bugzilla.redhat.com is the proper space to relieve your frustration. Please, if you are not willing to file bugs, what you are doing here? Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:23, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Please, if you are not willing to file bugs, what you are doing here? Matěj Who said I wasn' t?. Just posted it here to try see if others shared my view or maybe there was some trick to make it behave differently. Best regards... FC -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 04/16/2012 10:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:23, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com mailto:mc...@redhat.com wrote: Please, if you are not willing to file bugs, what you are doing here? Matěj Who said I wasn' t?. Just posted it here to try see if others shared my view or maybe there was some trick to make it behave differently. Well, I must say that your original post read, to me, more like a rant than seeking opinions/assistance. So much so that I dismissed it. FWIW, when folks say things such asWho in his right mind thought these only two options were the only possible options? and write Subject lines like yours, I don't give their posts much thought That's just me. But, if I have time later tomorrow (almost midnight), I may take a look at it to see if there is something you're missing or if your rant has any merit. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:16, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: FWIW, when folks say things such asWho in his right mind thought these only two options were the only possible options? and write Subject lines like yours, I don't give their posts much thought That's just me. :) Dramatic effect. Must be being Latin and all.. I bet in Italy they'd be yelling and chasing programmers around a large table with a knife, instead of wriing to mailing lists. ;-) JOKE JOKE! FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 04/14/2012 09:14 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I plug a removable USB drive into the system and the transparent window pops up telling me if I want to: 1. Import the pictures into this software 2. Eject. FWIW, I just installed the latest F17 Live Desktop beta. Upon plugging in a USB flash drive I get a popup at the bottom with the options for... 1. Open with Files 2. Eject I don't get Import the pictures into this software I installed both shotwell and digikam and I don't get any options to import into either of them. So, I don't see what you are seeing. What else have you installed? -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 00:54, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, I don't see what you are seeing. What else have you installed? Maybe shotwell is not installed by default on the livecd? I made an install to hd of f17 beta (rc3). Upon I got fed up with shotwell and removed it from my system, it returned to the behaviour you are seeing, which is fine by me. I guess in the end the point that should be made to shotwell devs is that in any case if the program overrides the standard notifications, then the program´s own notifications should not be just the two current ones Import pics, or eject but rather also open as files... (or I´d add, ´do nothing´) FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
On 04/17/2012 12:14 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 00:54, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, I don't see what you are seeing. What else have you installed? Maybe shotwell is not installed by default on the livecd? I made an install to hd of f17 beta (rc3). It is not. That is why I said I installed both shotwell and digikam. (After doing an install to HD, which I failed to mention.) I *never* saw the behavior you reported with shotwell, digikam, and now gwenview installed. So, I don't know how you got into the situation you did in order to complain about it. So, with that in mind, I don't feel there is anything to tell anyone unless the issue can be reproduced. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen
I find the photo import app in Fedora 17 the most intrusive, annoying piece of software I've seen in a long, long time. I plug a removable USB drive into the system and the transparent window pops up telling me if I want to: 1. Import the pictures into this software 2. Eject. There's no escape. What if I want to öpen a folder view of the drive?. You cant. And if I click on Eject, well, the drive is gone. Who in his right mind thought these only two options were the only possible options? If anything, there should be at the very least three options: 1.Import pictures into (piece of cr(p software I've now uninstalled) 2.Open a folder view [ ] Do this automatically in the future 3. Eject FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
