Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 14:35 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/18/2013 09:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hi folks! can people please test and up-karma > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-4.1.4.2-1.fc20 ? LO > > is currently newer in F19 stable than F20 stable, and it's causing some > > weird dep issues when people try to yum distro-sync to F20. > > We are seeing these issues ever since Fedora is around. Why hasn't > Fedora's release process been fixed to prevent such incidents happen? Fixed how? The update was submitted to 19 and 20 simultaneously, with identical karma thresholds. The update for 19 got karma faster and went stable first. It's fairly common for F(N-1) packages to get newer than F(N) while N is in pre-release freeze, and I don't see an easy viable way to 'fix' that without freezing N-1 as well, which stops people on N-1 getting updates. The only 'solution' I can see is something more drastic like adjusting our release tagging or version evaluation such that F(N) packages are always considered newer than F(N-1) packages, but aside from the inevitable disruptions involved in introducing such a change, it's not 100% clear it's even what we want - it's gotten suggested a few times, and IIRC there are usually some dissenting arguments. There's an ongoing conversation about whether fedup should effectively do --distro-sync , which would resolve some of this kind of issue, but probably not all. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
On 12/18/2013 02:58 PM, Bob Lightfoot wrote: On 12/18/2013 08:35 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Because Ralf foo-1.0.fc18.rpm ; foo-1.0.fc19.rpm ; foo-1.0.fc20.rpm are considered 3 separate packages and each must be reviewed and moved to stable. Depending on resources foo-1.0.fc18.rpm might reach stable before foo-1.0.fc19.rpm. There presently is no mechanism to cross-link that I am aware of. And to make f19 users wait for an f20 before deploying the next release also has some disadvantages. At least that's my understanding. Right, nobody denies it's non-trivial, but ... regret if I am sounding bitter and fed up, Fedora's release management only had 10 years to take care about these issues. Ralf -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
On 12/18/2013 08:35 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Because Ralf foo-1.0.fc18.rpm ; foo-1.0.fc19.rpm ; foo-1.0.fc20.rpm are considered 3 separate packages and each must be reviewed and moved to stable. Depending on resources foo-1.0.fc18.rpm might reach stable before foo-1.0.fc19.rpm. There presently is no mechanism to cross-link that I am aware of. And to make f19 users wait for an f20 before deploying the next release also has some disadvantages. At least that's my understanding. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
On 12/18/2013 09:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi folks! can people please test and up-karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-4.1.4.2-1.fc20 ? LO is currently newer in F19 stable than F20 stable, and it's causing some weird dep issues when people try to yum distro-sync to F20. We are seeing these issues ever since Fedora is around. Why hasn't Fedora's release process been fixed to prevent such incidents happen? Ralf -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
thank so much On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 10:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:56:53 -0300 > > Carlos Morel-Riquelme wrote: > > > > > libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts > > > > Follow the "build" in Adam's email > > You can use 'koji download-build' or 'bodhi -D' to download full sets of > packages from koji/bodhi easily. though for LO, it's a lot of data. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > test mailing list > test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test > -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 10:00 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:56:53 -0300 > Carlos Morel-Riquelme wrote: > > > libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts > > Follow the "build" in Adam's email You can use 'koji download-build' or 'bodhi -D' to download full sets of packages from koji/bodhi easily. though for LO, it's a lot of data. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:56:53 -0300 Carlos Morel-Riquelme wrote: > libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts Follow the "build" in Adam's email -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Karma request: LibreOffice
where i can download libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts = 1:4.1.4.2-1.fc20 i need this deps for install and testing LO 4.1.4.2-1 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! can people please test and up-karma > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-4.1.4.2-1.fc20 ? LO > is currently newer in F19 stable than F20 stable, and it's causing some > weird dep issues when people try to yum distro-sync to F20. If we can > get that update pushed stable it should clean things up. Thanks! > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > test mailing list > test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Karma request: LibreOffice
Hi folks! can people please test and up-karma https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-4.1.4.2-1.fc20 ? LO is currently newer in F19 stable than F20 stable, and it's causing some weird dep issues when people try to yum distro-sync to F20. If we can get that update pushed stable it should clean things up. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
