Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On 12/06/2013 11:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases. Here's the first: Thoughts, queries, corrections, improvements etc? Thanks! As long as you dont start putting test cases like this in the release criteria it's good work. JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 08:07 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/06/2013 11:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases. Here's the first: Thoughts, queries, corrections, improvements etc? Thanks! As long as you dont start putting test cases like this in the release criteria it's good work. nope, certainly not planning that :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 03:18 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: What would make sense would be to write a separate test for smb4k. Or, heck, a whole set of test cases! We've been wanting to have more test cases for more applications for a long time. But it wouldn't make sense as a 'desktop validation' test unless smb4k comes installed out of the box and Fedora users are all used to using that, not Dolphin, to browse SMB shares. What you mean with comes installed out of the box ? , should be install , I not mean that is , as default in KDE-desktop, it is a great tool, you mean be default or yum install smb4k is enough ? To make sense as a desktop test case it would have to be there when you install, I think... and then when you send out an update for the smb4k package, the test cases will be listed in Bodhi as good tests to run to test the update. :) Many thanks for this tips , I will read carefully and take action, but don't know when, I'm pretty busy I know the feeling :) it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to figure out why. I will try do the test case with the smb4k ... It's broken at a much lower level, it's something firewalld is doing wrong I believe. With smb4k you can change the defaults, and choose other kind of authentications, for example I need an old authentication to access a NAS server with a old Samba (which can't change it). I will try debug it :) but perhaps just can do the tests Monday afternoon . That'd be great if you want to try it out; if you could find a configuration which works with firewalld enabled, it might help us pinpoint the problem. I've just been testing with 'smbtree -N'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
New test case: SMB browsing
Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases. Here's the first: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to figure out why. For now the test case is just sitting in the wiki, but for F21 I'm thinking of proposing adding a set of 'optional' desktop test cases, like we have 'optional' install test cases - ones that it is good to run and check, but we don't block the release on at any milestone. This would be one of them. Another I'm planning to write is 'set up a printer and print a test page' - I'm thinking along those kinds of lines. There are probably other kinds of network browsing we can cover too. Thoughts, queries, corrections, improvements etc? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On Dec 6, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: For now the test case is just sitting in the wiki, but for F21 I'm thinking of proposing adding a set of 'optional' desktop test cases, like we have 'optional' install test cases It's a good idea. For what it's worth, Apple has promoted SMB as the default protocol for file sharing on OS X 10.9 released in October. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases. Here's the first: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb wiki says: Attempt to browse SMB shares on the local network with the desktop's normal method for doing so. For GNOME, open Files, click Browse Network under Network in the left-hand pane, and double-click Windows Network. For KDE, open Dolphin, click Network under Places in the left-hand pane, and expand or click on Samba Shares I don't believe :) that you don't include in this test smb4k, I'm the maintainer of it . Can I include it ? smb4k (smb for kde) is much better browser, IMO, that kde network of dolphin and have more options etc. it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to figure out why. I will try do the test case with the smb4k ... For now the test case is just sitting in the wiki, but for F21 I'm thinking of proposing adding a set of 'optional' desktop test cases, like we have 'optional' install test cases - ones that it is good to run and check, but we don't block the release on at any milestone. This would be one of them. Another I'm planning to write is 'set up a printer and print a test page' - I'm thinking along those kinds of lines. There are probably other kinds of network browsing we can cover too. Thoughts, queries, corrections, improvements etc? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- Sérgio M. B. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 01:35 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases. Here's the first: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb wiki says: Attempt to browse SMB shares on the local network with the desktop's normal method for doing so. For GNOME, open Files, click Browse Network under Network in the left-hand pane, and double-click Windows Network. For KDE, open Dolphin, click Network under Places in the left-hand pane, and expand or click on Samba Shares I don't believe :) that you don't include in this test smb4k, I'm the maintainer of it . Can I include it ? smb4k (smb for kde) is much better browser, IMO, that kde network of dolphin and have more options etc. It's not about what's the best tool: it's a desktop polish test case. The point is to answer the question 'does this fairly commonly used function work right out of the box?' So testing with smb4k would be outside the scope of this test. What would make sense would be to write a separate test for smb4k. Or, heck, a whole set of test cases! We've been wanting to have more test cases for more applications for a long time. But it wouldn't make sense as a 'desktop validation' test unless smb4k comes installed out of the box and Fedora users are all used to using that, not Dolphin, to browse SMB shares. If you do write one or more test cases for smb4k, add this to the bottom: [[Category:Package_smb4k_test_cases]] and then when you send out an update for the smb4k package, the test cases will be listed in Bodhi as good tests to run to test the update. :) it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to figure out why. I will try do the test case with the smb4k ... It's broken at a much lower level, it's something firewalld is doing wrong I believe. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New test case: SMB browsing
On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 18:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 01:35 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases. Here's the first: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb wiki says: Attempt to browse SMB shares on the local network with the desktop's normal method for doing so. For GNOME, open Files, click Browse Network under Network in the left-hand pane, and double-click Windows Network. For KDE, open Dolphin, click Network under Places in the left-hand pane, and expand or click on Samba Shares I don't believe :) that you don't include in this test smb4k, I'm the maintainer of it . Can I include it ? smb4k (smb for kde) is much better browser, IMO, that kde network of dolphin and have more options etc. It's not about what's the best tool: it's a desktop polish test case. The point is to answer the question 'does this fairly commonly used function work right out of the box?' So testing with smb4k would be outside the scope of this test. What would make sense would be to write a separate test for smb4k. Or, heck, a whole set of test cases! We've been wanting to have more test cases for more applications for a long time. But it wouldn't make sense as a 'desktop validation' test unless smb4k comes installed out of the box and Fedora users are all used to using that, not Dolphin, to browse SMB shares. What you mean with comes installed out of the box ? , should be install , I not mean that is , as default in KDE-desktop, it is a great tool, you mean be default or yum install smb4k is enough ? If you do write one or more test cases for smb4k, add this to the bottom: [[Category:Package_smb4k_test_cases]] and then when you send out an update for the smb4k package, the test cases will be listed in Bodhi as good tests to run to test the update. :) Many thanks for this tips , I will read carefully and take action, but don't know when, I'm pretty busy it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to figure out why. I will try do the test case with the smb4k ... It's broken at a much lower level, it's something firewalld is doing wrong I believe. With smb4k you can change the defaults, and choose other kind of authentications, for example I need an old authentication to access a NAS server with a old Samba (which can't change it). I will try debug it :) but perhaps just can do the tests Monday afternoon . Many thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
