RE: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
#1) The bug is with Anaconda not grub2 from my understanding. #2) There is nothing broken any any alpha-beta process. We collectively decided to move this bug to F17 final blocker. Can you install Fedora 17? Yes. Will you have problems installing it in specific ways? Yes. Is this normal for a beta and an alpha OS release? Yes. See win 8 Consumer preview for a recent example. It's not a final reason for a reason. There are still bugs. Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Adam Williamson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:12 AM To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Subject: Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works! On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 04:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:56:04 -0700 Dan Mashal wrote: I never had any issues with the DVD alpha or beta minus btrfs. Did you do any custom partitioning? My problems came way before partitioning. It simply couldn't find the disk image given on the repo=hd:yadda-yadda kernel command line. With the Beta, things work fine. That was https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806966 . Unfortunately, the next problem is (somewhat) related to partitioning - it can't properly install grub2 in the partition versus the MBR: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 I have somewhat worked around that by installing the grub2 from f16 in the f17 partition. That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the fault isn't anaconda's. It installs grub2 into the partition just fine. The code for doing so did not change in any way from F16 to F17, or from F17 Alpha to F17 Beta. It's in pyanaconda/bootloader.py if you want to look. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
RE: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
Just to be clear I was replying to the following quote: On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 19:12 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 04/17/2012 07:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: (but why is it *always* broken in Alphas? :-). The clue is in the name ;) I disagree. Alphas obviously have bugs, but when the *same* bug (or different bugs with the same symptoms) are present in alpha after alpha (or beta after beta, etc.) then something is broken in the process. === This is why I like forums, Adam. :P Dan -Original Message- From: Dan Mashal [mailto:dan.mas...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:31 AM To: 'For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases' Subject: RE: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works! #1) The bug is with Anaconda not grub2 from my understanding. #2) There is nothing broken any any alpha-beta process. We collectively decided to move this bug to F17 final blocker. Can you install Fedora 17? Yes. Will you have problems installing it in specific ways? Yes. Is this normal for a beta and an alpha OS release? Yes. See win 8 Consumer preview for a recent example. It's not a final reason for a reason. There are still bugs. Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Adam Williamson Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:12 AM To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Subject: Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works! On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 04:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:56:04 -0700 Dan Mashal wrote: I never had any issues with the DVD alpha or beta minus btrfs. Did you do any custom partitioning? My problems came way before partitioning. It simply couldn't find the disk image given on the repo=hd:yadda-yadda kernel command line. With the Beta, things work fine. That was https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806966 . Unfortunately, the next problem is (somewhat) related to partitioning - it can't properly install grub2 in the partition versus the MBR: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 I have somewhat worked around that by installing the grub2 from f16 in the f17 partition. That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the fault isn't anaconda's. It installs grub2 into the partition just fine. The code for doing so did not change in any way from F16 to F17, or from F17 Alpha to F17 Beta. It's in pyanaconda/bootloader.py if you want to look. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
RE: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 00:33 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: Just to be clear I was replying to the following quote: This is why I like forums, Adam. :P It makes things much easier for everyone, including you, if you don't top post. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On 04/19/2012 10:10 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. Like I said, I believe the answer is simply 'to chainload grub2 you load core.img, rather than using the chainloader command'. Regarding the link that you posted earlier [1], shouldn't the grub2 chainloading command be linux /boot/grub2/core.img rather than kernel /boot/grub2/core.img? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835#c2 Here a grub.conf entry that works for me booting F17 from a grub1 mbr: # x and y are grub1 boot drive/partition references title Fedora 17 root (hdx,y) kernel /grub2/i386-pc/core.img Maybe this isn't a bug, but it sure stumped me for a day or so until my friend google helped and led me to common bugs. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 10:26 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 04/19/2012 10:10 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. Like I said, I believe the answer is simply 'to chainload grub2 you load core.img, rather than using the chainloader command'. Regarding the link that you posted earlier [1], shouldn't the grub2 chainloading command be linux /boot/grub2/core.img rather than kernel /boot/grub2/core.img? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835#c2 Here a grub.conf entry that works for me booting F17 from a grub1 mbr: # x and y are grub1 boot drive/partition references title Fedora 17 root (hdx,y) kernel /grub2/i386-pc/core.img Maybe this isn't a bug, but it sure stumped me for a day or so until my friend google helped and led me to common bugs. The latest discussion is in the bug report - summary, it probably _is_ a bug, and pjones / mads are working on it together and there will likely be a new build soon. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@verizon.net wrote: On 04/19/2012 10:10 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. Like I said, I believe the answer is simply 'to chainload grub2 you load core.img, rather than using the chainloader command'. Regarding the link that you posted earlier [1], shouldn't the grub2 chainloading command be linux /boot/grub2/core.img rather than kernel /boot/grub2/core.img? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835#c2 Here a grub.conf entry that works for me booting F17 from a grub1 mbr: # x and y are grub1 boot drive/partition references title Fedora 17 root (hdx,y) kernel /grub2/i386-pc/core.img Thanks, good to know; but title ... is a grub1 expression and the bug had menuentry..., which is a grub2 stanza. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On 04/19/2012 11:09 AM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel snip Here a grub.conf entry that works for me booting F17 from a grub1 mbr: # x and y are grub1 boot drive/partition references title Fedora 17 root (hdx,y) kernel /grub2/i386-pc/core.img Thanks, good to know; but title ... is a grub1 expression and the bug had menuentry..., which is a grub2 stanza. Yes it is. I am booting from a grub1 installation to grub2 F17, so the entry has to be in grub.conf format. The next screen is the grub2 boot screen. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
I never had any issues with the DVD alpha or beta minus btrfs. Did you do any custom partitioning? Dan On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: Unlike the Alpha DVD iso, I was able to install f17 Beta using the hard disk install technique, so at least one thing is definitely improved since the Alpha (but why is it *always* broken in Alphas? :-). The clue is in the name ;) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:46:54 -0700 Dan Mashal wrote: Just use whatever the default options are for upgrading or replace existing linux system with all default options for now, That should do it. I'm not upgrading. I'm installing from scratch in a different partition. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
RE: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
Ok, will test tomorrow. Dan -Original Message- From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tom Horsley Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:01 AM To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works! On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:46:54 -0700 Dan Mashal wrote: Just use whatever the default options are for upgrading or replace existing linux system with all default options for now, That should do it. I'm not upgrading. I'm installing from scratch in a different partition. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 04:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:56:04 -0700 Dan Mashal wrote: I never had any issues with the DVD alpha or beta minus btrfs. Did you do any custom partitioning? My problems came way before partitioning. It simply couldn't find the disk image given on the repo=hd:yadda-yadda kernel command line. With the Beta, things work fine. That was https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806966 . Unfortunately, the next problem is (somewhat) related to partitioning - it can't properly install grub2 in the partition versus the MBR: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 I have somewhat worked around that by installing the grub2 from f16 in the f17 partition. That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the fault isn't anaconda's. It installs grub2 into the partition just fine. The code for doing so did not change in any way from F16 to F17, or from F17 Alpha to F17 Beta. It's in pyanaconda/bootloader.py if you want to look. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the fault isn't anaconda's. Then the bug should be moved to grub2, because it sure is a bug. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:57 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the fault isn't anaconda's. Then the bug should be moved to grub2, because it sure is a bug. If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. Like I said, I believe the answer is simply 'to chainload grub2 you load core.img, rather than using the chainloader command'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:05:42 +0100 Adam Williamson wrote: If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. But it is supposed to work. I've already added a pointer to an upstream bug fixed not too long ago where blocklist booting was broken and the grub maintainers considered that a bug. Also Mads Kiilerich has built various different versions from the grub2 sources and gotten them to work correctly. It is clearly a grub2 bug and we either need Mads' new grub2 in the final release or we need to revert to the version in f16. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On 04/17/2012 07:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: (but why is it *always* broken in Alphas? :-). The clue is in the name ;) I disagree. Alphas obviously have bugs, but when the *same* bug (or different bugs with the same symptoms) are present in alpha after alpha (or beta after beta, etc.) then something is broken in the process. -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com If you're going to shift my paradigm ... at least buy me dinner first. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 19:54 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:05:42 +0100 Adam Williamson wrote: If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. But it is supposed to work. I've already added a pointer to an upstream bug fixed not too long ago where blocklist booting was broken and the grub maintainers considered that a bug. I missed that reference. Could you add it to the bug report? Also Mads Kiilerich has built various different versions from the grub2 sources and gotten them to work correctly. Where is this documented? It is clearly a grub2 bug and we either need Mads' new grub2 in the final release or we need to revert to the version in f16. I don't see it as being a release blocking issue in any event. If you want to chainload, you can. If it can be 'fixed' then it would be nice to do so, of course. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
