Re: 2010-07-12 @ ** 15:00 UTC ** - Fedora QA meeting agenda

2010-07-12 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
  On 07/12/2010 01:19 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Thers an ongoing thread on devel list.

There have been many threads on the development list through out several 
release cycles about this issue.

All those thread led nowhere and all those thread had all little to no 
input from the QA community and reporters/triagers in general.
( FYI. Not all reporters are subscribed to the development list as are 
not all developers/maintainers subscribed to the test list. )
Why should this be any different now?

This issue needs to be raised to FESCO with a firm stance from the QA 
community on the issue.

JBG
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Re: 2010-07-12 @ ** 15:00 UTC ** - Fedora QA meeting agenda

2010-07-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/07/10 14:13, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>On 07/12/2010 01:00 PM, James Laska wrote:
>>6. Open discussion
> There's one issue that needs to be discussed and resolved and that's
> maintainers ignoring their packaging responsibility by not being the
> bridge between upstream and bugzilla refusing to resolve outstanding
> bugs and forcing reporters to file bugs against upstream bugzilla(s)
> trac system and what not.
>
> This behaviour causes serious confusion and rift in the community and
> disrupts the QA workflow.
>
> JBG

Thers an ongoing thread on devel list.

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Re: 2010-07-12 @ ** 15:00 UTC ** - Fedora QA meeting agenda

2010-07-12 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
  On 07/12/2010 01:00 PM, James Laska wrote:
>   6. Open discussion
There's one issue that needs to be discussed and resolved and that's 
maintainers ignoring their packaging responsibility by not being the 
bridge between upstream and bugzilla refusing to resolve outstanding 
bugs and forcing reporters to file bugs against upstream bugzilla(s) 
trac system and what not.

This behaviour causes serious confusion and rift in the community and 
disrupts the QA workflow.

JBG
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