Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:12:13PM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I now have my own, very small page, which is Fedora centric at present... http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/grub2.html So far, it only covers editing /etc/default/grub.d, 40_custom and using custom.cfg. Typo: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg should be grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg for Fedora Thank you Tom, it's fixed now. You're welcome. Good luck with the howto. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 19:13 -0600, Peter G. wrote: Tom H wrote: The default Fedora install, up to now, has been to have a separate /boot in order to use LVM for /. That's one reason and there are others (for example, some people don't mount /boot at boot; they only mount it to update the kernel and the boot config and then unmount it). I never figured out a use for LVM, either ;-) The biggest use is very easy resizing of partitions, without data loss. I think I read it's going bye-bye, isn't it? Something about btrfs making it irrelevant? In the long term, yeah, btrfs will have support for everything that makes LVM (and soft RAID, in fact) interesting. Probably be F18 before we really stop using LVM and RAID separately from the filesystem by default, though (that's just a WAG). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 21:27 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 07:05:55PM -0600, Peter G. wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? no I didn't. first I heard of it. that might explain it. but I learned something and I think I prefer the custom.cfg method, anyway :-) Note the earlier exchange of emails. update_grub is an Ubuntu command. In my defence, I don't run Ubuntu or anything evil like that. I just cargo-cult things I vaguely remember from Google searches. That's much better, right? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 21:27 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 07:05:55PM -0600, Peter G. wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? no I didn't. first I heard of it. that might explain it. but I learned something and I think I prefer the custom.cfg method, anyway :-) Note the earlier exchange of emails. update_grub is an Ubuntu command. In my defence, I don't run Ubuntu or anything evil like that. I just cargo-cult things I vaguely remember from Google searches. That's much better, right? Evil? :))) Debian/Ubuntu had an update-grub for grub1 and have an update-grub and an update-grub2 for grub2. update-grub just runs grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg and update-grub2 just runs update-grub. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On 08/26/2011 02:42 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: In the long term, yeah, btrfs will have support for everything that makes LVM (and soft RAID, in fact) interesting. Probably be F18 before we really stop using LVM and RAID separately from the filesystem by default, though (that's just a WAG). Could be quite long - btfrs wont replace RAID until RAID-5 is supported - which seems to be a long ways off best I can tell -- every time I ask the question it seems to be waiting for much the same work to be done ... presumably it will get there, but I would be pleasantly surprised if its less than a year away ... -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:47:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 21:27 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: Note the earlier exchange of emails. update_grub is an Ubuntu command. In my defence, I don't run Ubuntu or anything evil like that. I just cargo-cult things I vaguely remember from Google searches. That's much better, right? We'd forgive you. Well, I would, anyway. (I'm reminded of the statement, though I've forgotten where it's from--If you like someone, and they spill their soup on you, you laugh, if you dislike someone, the way they hold their fork is aggravating.) Documentation is still, surprisingly sparse, save for Ubuntu, Gentoo, and Arch. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Giles: This one? Buffy: Amethyst. Giles: Used for? Buffy: Breath mints? Giles: Charm bags, money spells and for cleansing one's aura. Buffy: Okay, so how do you know if one's aura's dirty? Somebody comes by with a finger and writes 'wash me' on it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:47:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: In my defence, I don't run Ubuntu or anything evil like that. I just cargo-cult things I vaguely remember from Google searches. That's much better, right? We'd forgive you. Documentation is still, surprisingly sparse, save for Ubuntu, Gentoo, and Arch. I saved these a while ago and haven't visited them in over a year so they might not be current or even live (I've just deleted the engrub url) but here goes: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2 http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-admin-grub2-en.htm http://manual.sidux.com/en/sys-admin-grub2-en.htm http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20.html http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2 http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/grub_2 http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106368.0 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter06/grub.html http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter08/grub.html http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter06/grub.html http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter08/grub.html http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287602 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Grub2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:33:59AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:47:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: In my defence, I don't run Ubuntu or anything evil like that. I just cargo-cult things I vaguely remember from Google searches. That's much better, right? We'd forgive you. Documentation is still, surprisingly sparse, save for Ubuntu, Gentoo, and Arch. I saved these a while ago and haven't visited them in over a year so they might not be current or even live (I've just deleted the engrub url) but here goes: I now have my own, very small page, which is Fedora centric at present... http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/grub2.html So far, it only covers editing /etc/default/grub.d, 40_custom and using custom.cfg. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Spike: You won. Alright? You came in and you killed them, and you took their land. That's what conquering nations do. It's what Caeser did, and he's not going around saying I came, I conquered, I felt really bad about it. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:33:59AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:47:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: In my defence, I don't run Ubuntu or anything evil like that. I just cargo-cult things I vaguely remember from Google searches. That's much better, right? We'd forgive you. Documentation is still, surprisingly sparse, save for Ubuntu, Gentoo, and Arch. I saved these a while ago and haven't visited them in over a year so they might not be current or even live (I've just deleted the engrub url) but here goes: I now have my own, very small page, which is Fedora centric at present... http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/grub2.html So far, it only covers editing /etc/default/grub.d, 40_custom and using custom.cfg. Typo: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg should be grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg for Fedora -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:12:13PM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I now have my own, very small page, which is Fedora centric at present... http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/grub2.html So far, it only covers editing /etc/default/grub.d, 40_custom and using custom.cfg. Typo: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg should be grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg for Fedora Thank you Tom, it's fixed now. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Cordelia: You're just a souless bloodsucking demon. They're LAWYERS -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Am Mittwoch, den 24.08.2011, 22:40 -0600 schrieb Petrus de Calguarium:
I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am
experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the
grub2 boot menu.
I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu,
even though it is in grub.cfg.
When I start the computer and select the (c)ommand line in grub, I am
able to enter:
set root=(hd0,7)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc
etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc
initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img
and then type boot, I am able to boot F15 without problem.
Entering the same into the grub.cfg file doesn't work.
How can I get a F15 menu entry in grub.cfg?
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Well, F16 has grub2 according to your mail. I recently upgraded my main
machine to grub2 as well and I have the following entry to boot my
Fedora 15, which still has legacy grub, on a separate partition via:
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply
type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to
change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
menuentry Fedora (2.6.40-4.fc15.i686) {
recordfail=1
if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi
insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,3)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
93f664e9-9013-47b4-b5d8-1239af7c0605
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.40-4.fc15.i686 ro
root=/dev/mapper/vg_myfedora15-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_myfedora15/lv_root
rd_LVM_LV=vg_myfedora15/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-2.6.40-4.fc15.i686.img
}
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
And this works. Maybe, you need to put /kernel instead
of /boot/kernel?
Hope that helps!
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Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote: Maybe, you need to put /kernel instead of /boot/kernel? Could be, but I don't think so, since I need it when I enter the information manually into grub2 and also, the legacy grub needs /boot/. However, I will try, just to be sure. LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 Hope that helps! I had latarcyrheb-sun-16. That might be it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On 08/25/2011 08:25 AM, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 24.08.2011, 22:40 -0600 schrieb Petrus de Calguarium:
I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am
experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the
grub2 boot menu.
I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu,
even though it is in grub.cfg.
When I start the computer and select the (c)ommand line in grub, I am
able to enter:
set root=(hd0,7)
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc
etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc
initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img
and then type boot, I am able to boot F15 without problem.
Entering the same into the grub.cfg file doesn't work.
How can I get a F15 menu entry in grub.cfg?
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Well, F16 has grub2 according to your mail. I recently upgraded my main
machine to grub2 as well and I have the following entry to boot my
Fedora 15, which still has legacy grub, on a separate partition via:
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply
type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to
change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
menuentry Fedora (2.6.40-4.fc15.i686) {
recordfail=1
if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi
insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,3)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
93f664e9-9013-47b4-b5d8-1239af7c0605
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.40-4.fc15.i686 ro
root=/dev/mapper/vg_myfedora15-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_myfedora15/lv_root
rd_LVM_LV=vg_myfedora15/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-2.6.40-4.fc15.i686.img
}
my grub.cfg (using chainloader) entry for F15 (after installing grub2 in
F15 and installing then in F15 the grub2 bootloader to /dev/sda7):
menuentry 'Fedora 15' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu
--class os {
set root=(hd0,7)
chainloader +1
}
This works on my box
Kind regards
Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de
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Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On 08/25/2011 12:40 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: snip set root=(hd0,7) linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img ^ ^ delete-| (both of them) -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/25/2011 12:40 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: snip set root=(hd0,7) linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img ^ ^ delete-| (both of them) I will try it. It seems odd, however. Will grub search through the root partition until if finds the kernel and initramfs, or does it simply assume (correctly) that they are located in the /boot directory? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On 08/25/2011 04:36 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Joachim Backes wrote:
my grub.cfg (using chainloader) entry for F15 (after installing grub2
in
F15 and installing then in F15 the grub2 bootloader to /dev/sda7):
menuentry 'Fedora 15' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu
--class os {
set root=(hd0,7)
chainloader +1
}
I never knew chainloader could be used for linux. I have seen it for
windows and for ploppy disks, but I will give it a try.
Check it! I use this since some Fedora generations to run multiple
fedoras on one hd. No problems!
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Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On 08/25/2011 10:35 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/25/2011 12:40 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: snip set root=(hd0,7) linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img ^ ^ delete-| (both of them) I will try it. It seems odd, however. Will grub search through the root partition until if finds the kernel and initramfs, or does it simply assume (correctly) that they are located in the /boot directory? As far as I know, everything is relative to /boot. No change from old grub. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: As far as I know, everything is relative to /boot. No change from old grub. In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On 08/25/2011 12:40 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: As far as I know, everything is relative to /boot. No change from old grub. In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! Separate boot partition, do not use /boot If not, then I dunno -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Petrus de Calguarium pguec...@gmail.com wrote: Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: As far as I know, everything is relative to /boot. No change from old grub. In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! Are you referring to root=/ or the grub root? If you have a separate /boot partition, the kernel and initrd are relative to it. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Tom H wrote: In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! Are you referring to root=/ or the grub root? I don't have a clue what the grub root is or what you mean by root=/, hence I cannot interpret the question. If you have a separate /boot partition, the kernel and initrd are relative to it. I never have a separate /boot (or /home) partition, as I have never managed to figure out a reason for it. It is just unnecessary complexity without benefit. I always have 3 versions of fedora installed (current, current-1 and current+1), so each has a root (/) partition that contains everything, the whole kit and 'kabootle'. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Joachim Backes wrote:
On 08/25/2011 04:36 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Joachim Backes wrote:
my grub.cfg (using chainloader) entry for F15 (after installing
grub2
in
F15 and installing then in F15 the grub2 bootloader to /dev/sda7):
menuentry 'Fedora 15' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu
--class os {
set root=(hd0,7)
chainloader +1
}
I never knew chainloader could be used for linux. I have seen it
for
windows and for ploppy disks, but I will give it a try.
Check it! I use this since some Fedora generations to run multiple
fedoras on one hd. No problems!
Sorry to say, but I got nowhere with that. Nothing happened. It is
definitely interesting in it's perfect simplicity and would be
preferred, if it worked, for that reason.
How are you supposed to tell grub2 to look into the /boot directory
for the kernel and initram?
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Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the grub2 boot menu. I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. I figured out that no matter what you put into /etc/grub.d/40_custom, it will never show up in the grub2 menu, even though it does show up in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. Yes, I have made sure to run restorecon on 40_custom after editing and that the permissions remain the same as the other files. The solution: create a file called /boot/grub2/custom.cfg and put your custom menu items in that. This file is automatically read by grub2, thanks to /etc/grub.d/41_custom, which causes custom.cfg to be read. This works! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:15:56 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: How are you supposed to tell grub2 to look into the /boot directory for the kernel and initram? OK, to inject my own ignorance into this thread: As far as I know, the paths you tell grub should be relative to whatever the heck (hdX,Y) refers to in the disk spec. So if, for example, (hd0,0) is the grub name for a dedicated /boot partition, then the file names you use would be relative to /boot (just say /initramfs...) On the othr hand if (hd0,2) is the grub name for the / root partition, and boot is merely a subdirectory under root, then you say /boot/initramfs... -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:15:56 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: How are you supposed to tell grub2 to look into the /boot directory for the kernel and initram? OK, to inject my own ignorance into this thread: As far as I know, the paths you tell grub should be relative to whatever the heck (hdX,Y) refers to in the disk spec. So if, for example, (hd0,0) is the grub name for a dedicated /boot partition, then the file names you use would be relative to /boot (just say /initramfs...) Important note. Although disk number still begins at 0, partitions now begin at 1. So /dev/sda1 is now hd0,1. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Faith: Isn't it crazy how slayin' just always makes you hungry and horny? Buffy: Well... sometimes I crave a nonfat yogurt afterwards. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:21:37PM -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. Interesting. I just tested, on a virtual machine, without an actual O/S, (just made up one) and it showed up on my grub menu. Is it possible you made a typo? (Or accidentally deleted that line they say not to delete?) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Willow: On the other hand, maybe Rodney just stepped out for a smoke. Xander: For twenty-one hours? Willow: It's addictive, you know. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:10:36 -0400 Scott Robbins wrote: Important note. Although disk number still begins at 0, partitions now begin at 1. So /dev/sda1 is now hd0,1. My God! I won't be able to handle the partition numbers matching in linux and grub (but that's OK I couldn't handle them not matching either :-). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:21:37PM -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. Interesting. I just tested, on a virtual machine, without an actual O/S, (just made up one) and it showed up on my grub menu. Is it possible you made a typo? Possible? Of course... but I checked it numerous times and it all works when I type it by hand at the grub prompt and it also works when I put it into custom.cfg (copy and paste). I have also written and rewritten it many times, trying all of the various suggestions here in this thread, etc. and variations and it never appears in the grub menu, not even in a defective state. All my entries simply do not show up at all. (Or accidentally deleted that line they say not to delete?) I definitely did NOT delete that line ;-) But no matter. Editing custom.cfg is actually preferable, since you don't need to change those scripts under /etc/grub.d and you don't have to run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. And these entries verily do show up in the menu. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Scott Robbins wrote: Important note. Although disk number still begins at 0, partitions now begin at 1. So /dev/sda1 is now hd0,1. Thanks for the reminder :-) I was already aware of that, hence I set root to 0,7 (ie., sda7, or grub legacy hd0,6). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Petrus de Calguarium pguec...@gmail.com wrote: Tom H wrote: In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! Are you referring to root=/ or the grub root? I don't have a clue what the grub root is or what you mean by root=/, hence I cannot interpret the question. If you have a separate /boot partition, the kernel and initrd are relative to it. I never have a separate /boot (or /home) partition, as I have never managed to figure out a reason for it. It is just unnecessary complexity without benefit. I always have 3 versions of fedora installed (current, current-1 and current+1), so each has a root (/) partition that contains everything, the whole kit and 'kabootle'. I mean by grub root the root=(hdX,Y) line in grub1's grub.conf and the set root=(hdX,Y) and search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=UUID lines in grub2's /grub.cfg. The default Fedora install, up to now, has been to have a separate /boot in order to use LVM for /. That's one reason and there are others (for example, some people don't mount /boot at boot; they only mount it to update the kernel and the boot config and then unmount it). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Petrus de Calguarium
pguec...@gmail.com wrote:
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am
experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the
grub2 boot menu.
I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu,
even though it is in grub.cfg.
I figured out that no matter what you put into /etc/grub.d/40_custom,
it will never show up in the grub2 menu, even though it does show up
in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. Yes, I have made sure to run restorecon on
40_custom after editing and that the permissions remain the same as
the other files.
The standard 40_custom is:
#!/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
and it hasn't always worked for me. I prefer to use:
#!/bin/sh
cat EOF
menuentry ... {
set root=
search ...
linux ...
initrd...
}
EOF
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Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 12:21 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the grub2 boot menu. I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. I figured out that no matter what you put into /etc/grub.d/40_custom, it will never show up in the grub2 menu, even though it does show up in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. Yes, I have made sure to run restorecon on did you run 'update_grub'? it seems to be needed after changing grub2 config. just like lilo! ahh, the good old days. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 03:16:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 12:21 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? it seems to be needed after changing grub2 config. just like lilo! ahh, the good old days. You mean the command detailed in the Ubuntu docs that doesn't seem to exist in F16? Someone better get on the Fedora QA guys about that...oh...wait :) Hopefully, soon Fedora will have its own docs, detailing the differences. Unless a change is made, an F16 64 bit on a VM installed today does not have an update-grub, (by any name, such as update_grub, update-grub2, or whatever.) No, Petrus had the command correctly, grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg (And Petrus, thanks for the tip about making a custom.cfg, which does, as you pointed out, avoid the need to run a command. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Kendra: I call it Mr. Pointy. Buffy: You named your stake? Kendra: Yes. Buffy: Remind me to get you a stuffed animal. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 18:54 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 03:16:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 12:21 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? it seems to be needed after changing grub2 config. just like lilo! ahh, the good old days. You mean the command detailed in the Ubuntu docs that doesn't seem to exist in F16? Someone better get on the Fedora QA guys about that...oh...wait :) Hopefully, soon Fedora will have its own docs, detailing the differences. Unless a change is made, an F16 64 bit on a VM installed today does not have an update-grub, (by any name, such as update_grub, update-grub2, or whatever.) No, Petrus had the command correctly, grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg (And Petrus, thanks for the tip about making a custom.cfg, which does, as you pointed out, avoid the need to run a command. ah. can you tell I didn't actually do much to grub2 yet? =) fortunately it worked okay in all my tests. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
Adam Williamson wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? no I didn't. first I heard of it. that might explain it. but I learned something and I think I prefer the custom.cfg method, anyway :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
Peter G. wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? no I didn't. first I heard of it. that might explain it. but I learned something and I think I prefer the custom.cfg method, anyway :-) I don't seem to have that program, or if I do, it's not in my/root's path. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Tom H wrote: The default Fedora install, up to now, has been to have a separate /boot in order to use LVM for /. That's one reason and there are others (for example, some people don't mount /boot at boot; they only mount it to update the kernel and the boot config and then unmount it). I never figured out a use for LVM, either ;-) I think I read it's going bye-bye, isn't it? Something about btrfs making it irrelevant? And I don't know why you wouldn't want to mount /boot at boot. But I am just running a home desktop and a laptop computer :-) Nothing quirky, just what a man needs to be on the web. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 07:05:55PM -0600, Peter G. wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: did you run 'update_grub'? no I didn't. first I heard of it. that might explain it. but I learned something and I think I prefer the custom.cfg method, anyway :-) Note the earlier exchange of emails. update_grub is an Ubuntu command. In Fedora, changes are done by running grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg However, like you, I prefer the custom.cfg since it avoids having to run a command after a change. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Spike: A, my head. I think I'm sobering up. It's horrible. Ah... God... I wish I was dead. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
