Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 19:19 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > That might be the case in the US, its not the case in the UK and > Australia where I use 3G for everything from video streaming and VoIP > to remote access work related things with no issues at all. try it on a train from London to Manchester some time =) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 13:26 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > The N900 is unfortunately impractical in territories with no 1700 or > > 2100 band providers (or poor ones). > > For 3G, yes, but I live with 2.5G service as I'm almost always near a > WLAN AP. (I don't have 1700 or 2100 service near me). The N900 should be > able to provide voice calling from anywhere in the world. > > The frequency issue will be "fixed" with quad-band 3G MeeGo devices next > year. Oh, believe me, I'm waiting. (Comprehensive 3G support is actually still annoyingly rare; go chart out the availability of devices that can do 850/1900/2100 3G, it's still a surprisingly short list which gets rapidly shorter when you start keying in requirements like 'runs a decent version of Android' and 'has a good hardware keyboard'. This is mainly why I still use a somewhat antiquated Tilt 2.) I'm certainly not always near a WLAN AP; one of the most useful smartphone features for me is Google maps public transit navigation, and there ain't a WLAN AP on any city buses around here. =) > Even then, 3G carriers are overloaded and can hardly provide quality > service to stream video or download faster than EDGE-speeds. Video > calling is also a moot point as no USA carrier offers it and the > countries that do offer it, offer it at a high expense. You're better > off using Skype or XMPP via WLAN on the N900 for that. ;) Well, 'speak for yourself'. I get a pretty constant high-quality 4Mb/sec connection over HSPA here. It's hugely faster than EDGE, and I really would not want to step down to 2G (actually before reliable 3G was available I ran a Palm for a short while but then ditched it because I just can't deal with the slowness of 2G data and I never used the smartphone features; it took a decent 3G connection for me to really get to the point of using smartphone stuff.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> The N900 is unfortunately impractical in territories with no 1700 or >> 2100 band providers (or poor ones). > > For 3G, yes, but I live with 2.5G service as I'm almost always near a > WLAN AP. (I don't have 1700 or 2100 service near me). The N900 should be > able to provide voice calling from anywhere in the world. > > The frequency issue will be "fixed" with quad-band 3G MeeGo devices next > year. > > Even then, 3G carriers are overloaded and can hardly provide quality > service to stream video or download faster than EDGE-speeds. Video > calling is also a moot point as no USA carrier offers it and the > countries that do offer it, offer it at a high expense. You're better > off using Skype or XMPP via WLAN on the N900 for that. ;) That might be the case in the US, its not the case in the UK and Australia where I use 3G for everything from video streaming and VoIP to remote access work related things with no issues at all. Peter -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)
Oops. I meant correct use of the "refers-to" header. Thread completeness relying *only* on refers-to is based on an incorrect assumption that refers-to is compulsory and not optional. IMHO. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)
Adam Williamson wrote: > The N900 is unfortunately impractical in territories with no 1700 or > 2100 band providers (or poor ones). For 3G, yes, but I live with 2.5G service as I'm almost always near a WLAN AP. (I don't have 1700 or 2100 service near me). The N900 should be able to provide voice calling from anywhere in the world. The frequency issue will be "fixed" with quad-band 3G MeeGo devices next year. Even then, 3G carriers are overloaded and can hardly provide quality service to stream video or download faster than EDGE-speeds. Video calling is also a moot point as no USA carrier offers it and the countries that do offer it, offer it at a high expense. You're better off using Skype or XMPP via WLAN on the N900 for that. ;) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)
And as a closing one for OT stuff - the correct use of reply-to is unfortunately optional in the RFC. I knew all of this hence my excuse. Still noone has reacted to the point I raised. But as at least one person on this list values thraed-completeness over content, I gather it is better to simply accept that no matter what argument is used, if it isn't done in whatever artificial definition of correctness it will be ignored. Thanks for showing me. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
