Re: Dracut + Disk Crypt Passphrase Timeout

2013-01-10 Thread Kamil Paral
 
  Is this timeout normal and expected or is it a bug?  (I'm not
  worried
  about it, but thought someone might like to know if it's
  unexpected.)
 
 I've seen this as well. It's certainly disconcerting to come back to
 a
 workstation and find it dropped to an emergency shell. So, I'd
 certainly call it a bug.
 
 Others do too:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868421

It's definitely a bug. The problem is that no one knows whether this is a 
dracut or systemd bug, and none of the respective maintainers have shown much 
care about the issue.

I hope that F18 release will make more people report this problem and this 
activity will wake them up.
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Re: Dracut + Disk Crypt Passphrase Timeout

2013-01-10 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 10.01.2013 14:23, Kamil Paral wrote:
 Is this timeout normal and expected or is it a bug?  (I'm not
 worried
 about it, but thought someone might like to know if it's
 unexpected.)
 I've seen this as well. It's certainly disconcerting to come back to
 a
 workstation and find it dropped to an emergency shell. So, I'd
 certainly call it a bug.

 Others do too:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868421
 It's definitely a bug. The problem is that no one knows whether this is a 
 dracut or systemd bug, and none of the respective maintainers have shown much 
 care about the issue.

 I hope that F18 release will make more people report this problem and this 
 activity will wake them up.

I have encountered this bug several times. First I thought it's
something serious. Then I realized that rebooting cures this problem and
my computer works good. I started to diagnose problem (read messages
from dracut) after 4 or 5 occurrences.

It's very wrong! I think lot of users with disk encryption enabled might
encounter this bug because it's not so rare to make coffee when your
system boots up. Then you miss this time window to enter the password
and ? F*, my system is broken again. I don't believe all Fedora
users are sysadmins or geeks smart enough to take this kid of error
easily. There should be at last huge banner with red blinking messaged
Time out! Please, reboot.


Mateusz Marzantowicz


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Re: Dracut + Disk Crypt Passphrase Timeout

2013-01-10 Thread Kamil Paral
 I have encountered this bug several times. First I thought it's
 something serious. Then I realized that rebooting cures this problem
 and
 my computer works good. I started to diagnose problem (read messages
 from dracut) after 4 or 5 occurrences.
 
 It's very wrong! I think lot of users with disk encryption enabled
 might
 encounter this bug because it's not so rare to make coffee when your
 system boots up. Then you miss this time window to enter the password
 and ? F*, my system is broken again. I don't believe all Fedora
 users are sysadmins or geeks smart enough to take this kid of error
 easily. There should be at last huge banner with red blinking
 messaged
 Time out! Please, reboot.

You wouldn't believe how often and how hard it is to convince the sysadmins and 
geeks that not all Fedora users are sysadmins and geeks. Your feedback is 
needed :)

This bugzilla is the correct way to start nagging them:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868421

After we resolve this one, we will probably discover other issues lurking 
(systemd), but the initial bug is in dracut, I believe.
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Re: Dracut + Disk Crypt Passphrase Timeout

2013-01-09 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik

 Is this timeout normal and expected or is it a bug?  (I'm not worried 
 about it, but thought someone might like to know if it's unexpected.)

I've seen this as well. It's certainly disconcerting to come back to a
workstation and find it dropped to an emergency shell. So, I'd
certainly call it a bug.

Others do too:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868421

-benjamin
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Re: Dracut + Disk Crypt Passphrase Timeout

2013-01-09 Thread Eric Blake
On 01/09/2013 01:09 PM, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
 I haven't used the disk encryption features much so maybe this is normal, 
 but what I saw seemed odd enough I thought I better post it here.
 
 I have just installed F18 (with RC1) and configured the disk crypt 
 feature.  I just did my first boot, saw the prompt for the passphrase come 
 up when I got called off to tend to problems elsewhere.  Upon returning I 
 noticed that my system was now in a dracut emergency recovery shell.  I 
 saw some message about a timeout, but had already hit C-A-D before taking 
 good mental notes.
 
 Is this timeout normal and expected or is it a bug?

Bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861123
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670

but one that will probably be documented as a known bug rather than
blocking the release of F18.

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