Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On 10/26/2012 11:24 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: * **/etc/sysconfig/i18n has been replaced by /etc/locale.conf * LANG + All LC_* variables found in /etc/sysconfig/i18n as in LANG= LC_CTYPE= LC_NUMERIC= LC_TIME= LC_COLLATE= LC_MONETARY= LC_MESSAGES= LC_PAPER= LC_NAME= LC_ADDRESS= LC_TELEPHONE= LC_MEASUREMENT= LC_IDENTIFICATION= belong in /etc/locale.conf The locale settings configured in here are system-wide and are inherited by every service or user, unless overridden or unset by individual programs or individual users. See man locale.conf for further details */etc/sysconfig/keyboard has been change to **/etc/vconsole.conf * The virtual console configuration is /etc/vconsole.conf /* *//*NOTE THAT THE VARIABLES BEING USED HAVE CHANGED*/ SYSFONT= becomes FONT= SYSFONTACM= becomes FONT_MAP= UNIMAP= becomes FONT_UNIMAP= KEYTABLE= becomes KEYMAP= Kernel keymap and fonts is the default being used if FONT= or KEYMAP= are not set or empty Hi, just to make sure. Currently my /etc/sysconfig/i18n has LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 and /etc/sysconfig/keyboard has KEYTABLE=br-abnt2 MODEL=abnt2 LAYOUT=br So I would create /etc/locale.conf with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and /etc/vconsole.conf with FONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYMAP=br-abnt2 Is that all? Should I put MODEL and LAYOUT in /etc/vconsole.conf too? Thank you. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
--- Em qui, 8/11/12, Sergio sergiocmailbox-us...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: De: Sergio sergiocmailbox-us...@yahoo.com.br Assunto: Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated Para: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Data: Quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012, 7:23 On 10/26/2012 11:24 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: * **/etc/sysconfig/i18n has been replaced by /etc/locale.conf * LANG + All LC_* variables found in /etc/sysconfig/i18n as in LANG= LC_CTYPE= LC_NUMERIC= LC_TIME= LC_COLLATE= LC_MONETARY= LC_MESSAGES= LC_PAPER= LC_NAME= LC_ADDRESS= LC_TELEPHONE= LC_MEASUREMENT= LC_IDENTIFICATION= belong in /etc/locale.conf The locale settings configured in here are system-wide and are inherited by every service or user, unless overridden or unset by individual programs or individual users. See man locale.conf for further details */etc/sysconfig/keyboard has been change to **/etc/vconsole.conf * The virtual console configuration is /etc/vconsole.conf /* *//*NOTE THAT THE VARIABLES BEING USED HAVE CHANGED*/ SYSFONT= becomes FONT= SYSFONTACM= becomes FONT_MAP= UNIMAP= becomes FONT_UNIMAP= KEYTABLE= becomes KEYMAP= Kernel keymap and fonts is the default being used if FONT= or KEYMAP= are not set or empty Hi, just to make sure. Currently my /etc/sysconfig/i18n has LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 and /etc/sysconfig/keyboard has KEYTABLE=br-abnt2 MODEL=abnt2 LAYOUT=br So I would create /etc/locale.conf with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and /etc/vconsole.conf with FONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYMAP=br-abnt2 Ok I read 'man locale.conf' and 'man vconsole.conf' So in /etc/default/grub KEYTABLE is now vconsole.keymap FONT is now vconsole.font LANG is now locale.LANG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On 11/08/2012 09:23 AM, Sergio wrote: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 and /etc/sysconfig/keyboard has KEYTABLE=br-abnt2 MODEL=abnt2 LAYOUT=br So I would create /etc/locale.conf with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and /etc/vconsole.conf with FONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYMAP=br-abnt2 Is that all? Should I put MODEL and LAYOUT in /etc/vconsole.conf too? The legacy files get migrated for you not by you so you should not have to do anything. The only thing you have to do is start using the new files if you are going to make changes ( or create entries ) JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
--- Em qui, 8/11/12, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated Para: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Data: Quinta-feira, 8 de Novembro de 2012, 9:43 On 11/08/2012 09:23 AM, Sergio wrote: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 and /etc/sysconfig/keyboard has KEYTABLE=br-abnt2 MODEL=abnt2 LAYOUT=br So I would create /etc/locale.conf with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and /etc/vconsole.conf with FONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYMAP=br-abnt2 Is that all? Should I put MODEL and LAYOUT in /etc/vconsole.conf too? The legacy files get migrated for you not by you so you should not have to do anything. The only thing you have to do is start using the new files if you are going to make changes ( or create entries ) JBG Thanks, I changed them with localectl now but haven't restarted X yet to see if it will read the keyboard layout properly. But the legacy files weren't migrated. I upgraded with yum, maybe that was the reason? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On 10/26/2012 11:24 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: */etc/sysconfig/keyboard has been change to **/etc/vconsole.conf * The virtual console configuration is /etc/vconsole.conf /* *//*NOTE THAT THE VARIABLES BEING USED HAVE CHANGED*/ SYSFONT= becomes FONT= SYSFONTACM= becomes FONT_MAP= UNIMAP= becomes FONT_UNIMAP= KEYTABLE= becomes KEYMAP= Kernel keymap and fonts is the default being used if FONT= or KEYMAP= are not set or empty You mean this is only out of X? I upgraded today from F17 via yum and didn't create /etc/vconsole.conf yet. cat /proc/cmdline ... KEYTABLE=br-abnt2 ... and it works properly out of X. But X loads the 'us' keymap due to evdev: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log {snip} [43.769] (**) Option xkb_rules evdev [43.769] (**) Option xkb_model evdev [43.769] (**) Option xkb_layout us {snip} -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 01:24:34AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: The following sysconfig files are being deprecated /etc/sysconfig/clock, /etc/sysconfig/i18n,/etc/sysconfig/keyboard, /etc/sysconfig/network ( Hostname only ) These changes should be transparent ( they are migrated to systemd native files ) but various applications might still using the deprecated files so be on the look out and report any bug you come across. Just to be clear: are values found in these files _read_ if found, and migrated to the native files? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ mat...@fedoraproject.org -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:30 PM, John Morris jmor...@beau.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-10-27 at 01:24 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I highly recommend against setting the hardware clock to localtime but because I know some of you guys are dual booting with windows and to lazy to fix the registry here's how you set the hardware clock to use localtime instead.. # timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 This all looks good, especially keeping this. It isn't just coexistence with Windows that makes it a good idea to put local time into the CMOS clock. FWIW, UEFI spec prescribes setting local time + timezone + DST. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/27/2012 08:24 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Just a bit of heads up about the recent changes taking place in systemd ( 195 ) for F18+... The following sysconfig files are being deprecated /etc/sysconfig/clock, /etc/sysconfig/i18n,/etc/sysconfig/keyboard, /etc/sysconfig/network ( Hostname only ) ... I highly recommend against setting the hardware clock to localtime but because I know some of you guys are dual booting with windows and to lazy to fix the registry here's how you set the hardware clock to use localtime instead.. # timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 To set configure the clock to use network time protocol start by configuring ntp then enable the service # systemctl enable ntpd.service shouldn't that be chronyd.service - or are we reverting back to ntpd? I think that's about it for the most part so keep watching out for those bugs I got hit by a bug starting a few days ago that seems related to this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=870535 Basically, about 6 seconds into boot, systemd applies my time zone offset to the system clock, even though it already detects that the RTC is set to localtime. Regards, - -- Michel Alexandre Salim Fedora Project Contributor: http://fedoraproject.org/ Email: sali...@fedoraproject.org | GPG key ID: A36A937A Jabber: hir...@jabber.ccc.de | IRC: hir...@irc.freenode.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQjC+9AAoJEEr1VKujapN64TgH/RNMPn3L92eBHvvJAU7dJrKk 1/QJY4EA0pYy8x4gXLJAAQfwYCmvLb/CjYPXKEjeftSa0iVkzI8wemmLE0keOY+V r68gF4JLDF8ceDMzIo7v1x/6kWo9NXd2z5aWEjWAEihr6Kh/Ft38uhIunO3Y+7/d KTIKe3qauVKJMFT/pavIolgeAc3Pr8SyfSzMjFBrWTawKFthpQWlTDDbQqIHZizp z0n0+6aOcezcxtuLKCj6x2T5Es5Ny6B0pUHgSPK/eOdXosVq5Wy1RCJ4e5LSVeN8 BtDeI4RQ6GLBeZhXxhSRPi4hJZK2CcfKp/E0izqtoCxApsg4fNzlHq5z5W4zAKU= =taCF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On Oct 26, 2012 7:27 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Just a bit of heads up about the recent changes taking place in systemd ( 195 ) for F18+... (snip) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test Thanks for the writeup, Jóhann. There's a lot of good info here. Do you mind if I drop this into the F18 release notes, verbatim? It would really help, as we're getting close to freezing for translation. --pete -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On 10/27/2012 01:43 AM, Pete Travis wrote: On Oct 26, 2012 7:27 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com mailto:johan...@gmail.com wrote: Just a bit of heads up about the recent changes taking place in systemd ( 195 ) for F18+... (snip) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test Thanks for the writeup, Jóhann. There's a lot of good info here. Do you mind if I drop this into the F18 release notes, verbatim? It would really help, as we're getting close to freezing for translation. Yeah sure clean up my English and put it in there I'm going to see if I cant wikify this and bunch of other additional useful information ( although not change in current behavior just add on bits ) that came with the 194 JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On Sat, 2012-10-27 at 01:24 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I highly recommend against setting the hardware clock to localtime but because I know some of you guys are dual booting with windows and to lazy to fix the registry here's how you set the hardware clock to use localtime instead.. # timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 This all looks good, especially keeping this. It isn't just coexistence with Windows that makes it a good idea to put local time into the CMOS clock. If you want to wake up a machine in the morning it is a lot simpler to do with local time in the clock, otherwise you either have it waking up an hour early half the year or manually twiddle twice a year. Complete shutdown saves even more electricity than suspend and is less error prone on the typical desktop. Which adds up if you have a lot of desktops. I only have a few dozen but every dollar that isn't wasted helps. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: HEADS UP several very old sysconfig files are being deprecated
On Oct 26, 2012 8:01 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/27/2012 01:43 AM, Pete Travis wrote: On Oct 26, 2012 7:27 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Just a bit of heads up about the recent changes taking place in systemd ( 195 ) for F18+... (snip) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test Thanks for the writeup, Jóhann. There's a lot of good info here. Do you mind if I drop this into the F18 release notes, verbatim? It would really help, as we're getting close to freezing for translation. Yeah sure clean up my English and put it in there I'm going to see if I cant wikify this and bunch of other additional useful information ( although not change in current behavior just add on bits ) that came with the 194 JBG -- Thanks! Should I let it be for now, if you're revising further and putting it on the wiki somewhere? I'll be working on the release notes on and off over the weekend, so feel free to shout at me by email or as 'randomuser' on freenode and we will make sure it gets included. --pete -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test