Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl

On 17.4.2012 23:55, Fernando Cassia wrote:

So you mean it'd be technically possible to have a running Scribes in
current Fedora?


Sure, what happens when you try to rebuilt 
http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/scribes-0.4-0.bzr20120417r1052.3.el7.src.rpm 
?


Install all packages from 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package#Preparing_your_system 
and then try


rpmbuild --rebuild scribes*.src.rpm

(if you have some required packages missing
 yum-builddep scribes*.src.rpm
could help).

What happens?

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 18:52, Matej Cepl  wrote:

> a) it is not that bad on Fedora (which I don't have now), where all Gnome2
> packages are still maintained,
>

So you mean it'd be technically possible to have a running Scribes in
current Fedora?

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl

On 17.4.2012 20:53, Fernando Cassia wrote:

It seems like the author needs to do a major rewrite. :-( too bad
because I really liked scribes.


a) it is not that bad on Fedora (which I don't have now), where all 
Gnome2 packages are still maintained,
b) I am in the email conversation with the upstream author, and it seems 
that the rewrite is hoped to happen in summer. Let's see what happens.


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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 14:42, Matej Cepl  wrote:

> and I cannot fix it (python 2.6 v. 2.7 combined with gnome 2 v. gnome 3)


It seems like the author needs to do a major rewrite. :-( too bad because I
really liked scribes.

I wonder if pehaps there's some automated source code migration tool that
translates Gnome2 api calls to equivalent gnome3 as per
http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.3/gtk-migrating-2-to-3.html? :-/

Let's hope he gets to it.

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl

On 16.4.2012 16:19, Matej Cepl wrote:

Sorry, I was busy with some other work so I am now only ploughing
through fedora.testers ... scribes.src.rpm is completely unmaintained, I
have in a burst of optimism fixed it work with RHEL-6, but I don't use
it on day-to-day basis anymore. If anybody wants to take over
maintenance of scribes-nightly (or more than half-yearly ;)) I would
love to remove my src.rpm. Please, contact the upstream which points to
my URL on his webpage (which was the only reason I kept it there).


Actually I have tried to rebuild scribes on my current installation of 
Linux and it doesn't work anymore ... amount of Gnome2 stuff I would 
have to rebuild is so long I won't do it.


I am going to ask upstream to remove the link from his site, because it 
is broken and I cannot fix it (python 2.6 v. 2.7 combined with gnome 2 
v. gnome 3). Pick up this package, if you want to have it.


Best,

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-16 Thread Matej Cepl

On 13.4.2012 17:58, Horst H. von Brand wrote:

I find it strange that there is a EPEL package that isn't also available for
Fedora proper. Isn't that a requirement for EPEL?


It is not a proper package maintained in EPEL (or elsewhere). Just my 
build of scribes for RHEL-6, hosted on fedorapeople.org not in any 
official repository.


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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-16 Thread Matej Cepl

On 12.4.2012 23:43, Fernando Cassia wrote:

I think it'd be nice if you could do a small txt explaining what you
had to change, and then forward it to Matej, the person doing the
builds at the fedorapeople url mentioned on the OP.

I did a Google search:
Matej Cepl


Sorry, I was busy with some other work so I am now only ploughing 
through fedora.testers ... scribes.src.rpm is completely unmaintained, I 
have in a burst of optimism fixed it work with RHEL-6, but I don't use 
it on day-to-day basis anymore. If anybody wants to take over 
maintenance of scribes-nightly (or more than half-yearly ;)) I would 
love to remove my src.rpm. Please, contact the upstream which points to 
my URL on his webpage (which was the only reason I kept it there).


If you want to push scribes back to Fedora proper (does the upstream 
makes releases again?, but certainly git snapshots are legitimate), I 
would be glad to help as much as I can (being a provenpackager, 
unfortunately not a sponsor).


Best,

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 13 April 2012 09:58, Horst H. von Brand  wrote:
> Richard Shaw  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
>> > of which http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ maintains Fedora RPMs for here
>> > http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.noarch.rpm
>>
>> You're trying to install the el6 package which must ship with Python
>> 2.6. Easiest solution is to download the source RPM instead and
>> rebuild it on your system:
>
> I find it strange that there is a EPEL package that isn't also available for
> Fedora proper. Isn't that a requirement for EPEL?

No. The requirement is that the package is reviewed and acceptable to
Fedora Packaging standards.. but various packages can be EPEL only if
they will only work on stuff that Fedora has no want to maintain
anymore.



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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Horst H. von Brand
Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> > of which http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ maintains Fedora RPMs for here
> > http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.noarch.rpm
> 
> You're trying to install the el6 package which must ship with Python
> 2.6. Easiest solution is to download the source RPM instead and
> rebuild it on your system:

I find it strange that there is a EPEL package that isn't also available for
Fedora proper. Isn't that a requirement for EPEL?
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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:46, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> # rpm -i gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm
> error: gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm: not an rpm package (or package
> manifest):

sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_fart
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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:31, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> Is this a different version from the one at people.fedora.org??.
>> Sorry I got confused by the dropbox url. Or did you edit/fix it and
>> uploaded it there?
>
> Sorry yes! That's my updated version.

# rpm -i gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm
error: gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm: not an rpm package (or package
manifest):

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:08, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> Well I wouldn't consider my modifications "upstreamable". It was
> really just a quick hack. The right way would be to fix/work around
> the autoconf errors but I just don't know autoconf well enough.

Okay, I will install your RPM. I just want to be kept on the record
that any trojans on my system came from your RPM...

;-)

*joke* *joke*

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:31, Richard Shaw  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry yes! That's my updated version.
>
> I think it'd be nice if you could do a small txt explaining what you
> had to change, and then forward it to Matej, the person doing the
> builds at the fedorapeople url mentioned on the OP.
>
> I did a Google search:
> Matej Cepl 

Well I wouldn't consider my modifications "upstreamable". It was
really just a quick hack. The right way would be to fix/work around
the autoconf errors but I just don't know autoconf well enough.

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-12 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:31, Richard Shaw  wrote:
>
> Sorry yes! That's my updated version.

I think it'd be nice if you could do a small txt explaining what you
had to change, and then forward it to Matej, the person doing the
builds at the fedorapeople url mentioned on the OP.

I did a Google search:
Matej Cepl 

Thanks, again!

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:15, Richard Shaw  wrote:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.2.fc16.src.rpm
>
> Is this a different version from the one at people.fedora.org??.
> Sorry I got confused by the dropbox url. Or did you edit/fix it and
> uploaded it there?

Sorry yes! That's my updated version.

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-12 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:15, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.2.fc16.src.rpm

Is this a different version from the one at people.fedora.org??.
Sorry I got confused by the dropbox url. Or did you edit/fix it and
uploaded it there?

Thanks
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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-12 Thread Richard Shaw
You can try this source RPM. For whatever reason the configure
shortcut doesn't work in F17 so autogen.sh needs to be run. Of course
this means that you end up running ./configure twice but it doesn't
hurt anything and it does build for F17 in mock for me.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.2.fc16.src.rpm

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-12 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 17:56, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> You're trying to install the el6 package which must ship with Python
> 2.6. Easiest solution is to download the source RPM instead and
> rebuild it on your system:
>
> http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.src.rpm
>
> I took a look

Thanks Richard, will try that!.

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> of which http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ maintains Fedora RPMs for here
> http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.noarch.rpm

You're trying to install the el6 package which must ship with Python
2.6. Easiest solution is to download the source RPM instead and
rebuild it on your system:

http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.src.rpm

I took a look at the spec file for it and I didn't see anything
obvious that would make it fail on f17 but autoreconf is complaining.
I'm not much of an autoconf guru but I'll see if it's something easy.

On a side note it looks like scribes was added to Fedora some time ago
but I can't find it now so I assumed it was retired.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=189727

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