Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 15:59 +0200, poma wrote:
 
 This hardening crap certainly breaking it
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Harden_All_Packages?rd=Changes
 /Harden_all_packages_with_position-independent_code

Except if you compare the compiler and linker flags in the F21 and F23
builds, they appear to be the same, so I don't think it's actually to
do with the hardening.
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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-23 Thread poma
On 23.06.2015 01:27, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 14:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 22:12 +0200, poma wrote:
 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/x86_64/os/images/
 boot.iso

 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6196/10176196/
 Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20150621.iso

 are broken at early boot stage - isolinux.

 syslinux got rebuilt with hardening:

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=662410

 note that the 6.03-3 build attempt on 2015-02-21 failed, so this was
 actually the first successful build with the hardening change. I'd
 guess that may be related. I'll try a build with the hardening 
 removed.
 
 So this is definitely some kind of Rawhide compiler configuration
 issue, I think. I rebuilt from the same .src.rpm (same as -4 but with
 %undefine _hardened_build added) twice, once for F23, once for F21,
 and created live images with both builds. The F23 one still doesn't
 boot - seems like %undefine _hardened_build isn't enough - but an F23
 live image with an F21 build of isolinux does boot.
 
 I'll try and figure out the difference between the two builds.
 


This hardening crap certainly breaking it
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Harden_All_Packages?rd=Changes/Harden_all_packages_with_position-independent_code


Peter, can you explain why this is happening?


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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Chris Murphy
syslinux and variants aren't used for UEFI booting, where GRUB is used instead.
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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread poma
On 22.06.2015 22:45, Chris Murphy wrote:
 syslinux and variants aren't used for UEFI booting, where GRUB is used 
 instead.
 

You are indeed a source of a great knowledge!
So do they walk with the GRUB?


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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 14:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 22:12 +0200, poma wrote:
  https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/x86_64/os/images/
  boot.iso
  
  https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6196/10176196/
  Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20150621.iso
  
  are broken at early boot stage - isolinux.
 
 syslinux got rebuilt with hardening:
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=662410
 
 note that the 6.03-3 build attempt on 2015-02-21 failed, so this was
 actually the first successful build with the hardening change. I'd
 guess that may be related. I'll try a build with the hardening 
 removed.

So this is definitely some kind of Rawhide compiler configuration
issue, I think. I rebuilt from the same .src.rpm (same as -4 but with
%undefine _hardened_build added) twice, once for F23, once for F21,
and created live images with both builds. The F23 one still doesn't
boot - seems like %undefine _hardened_build isn't enough - but an F23
live image with an F21 build of isolinux does boot.

I'll try and figure out the difference between the two builds.
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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 04:27:07PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 14:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 22:12 +0200, poma wrote:
   https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/x86_64/os/images/
   boot.iso
   
   https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6196/10176196/
   Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20150621.iso
   
   are broken at early boot stage - isolinux.
  
  syslinux got rebuilt with hardening:
  
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=662410
  
  note that the 6.03-3 build attempt on 2015-02-21 failed, so this was
  actually the first successful build with the hardening change. I'd
  guess that may be related. I'll try a build with the hardening 
  removed.
 
 So this is definitely some kind of Rawhide compiler configuration
 issue, I think. I rebuilt from the same .src.rpm (same as -4 but with
 %undefine _hardened_build added) twice, once for F23, once for F21,
 and created live images with both builds. The F23 one still doesn't
 boot - seems like %undefine _hardened_build isn't enough - but an F23
 live image with an F21 build of isolinux does boot.
 
 I'll try and figure out the difference between the two builds.

Same version of GCC??

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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 22:12 +0200, poma wrote:
 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/x86_64/os/images/
 boot.iso
 
 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6196/10176196/
 Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20150621.iso
 
 are broken at early boot stage - isolinux.

syslinux got rebuilt with hardening:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=662410

note that the 6.03-3 build attempt on 2015-02-21 failed, so this was
actually the first successful build with the hardening change. I'd
guess that may be related. I'll try a build with the hardening removed.
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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 16:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 14:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 22:12 +0200, poma wrote:
   https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/x86_64/os/images/
   boot.iso
   
   https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6196/10176196/
   Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20150621.iso
   
   are broken at early boot stage - isolinux.
  
  syslinux got rebuilt with hardening:
  
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=662410
  
  note that the 6.03-3 build attempt on 2015-02-21 failed, so this 
  was
  actually the first successful build with the hardening change. I'd
  guess that may be related. I'll try a build with the hardening 
  removed.
 
 So this is definitely some kind of Rawhide compiler configuration
 issue, I think. I rebuilt from the same .src.rpm (same as -4 but with
 %undefine _hardened_build added) twice, once for F23, once for F21,
 and created live images with both builds. The F23 one still doesn't
 boot - seems like %undefine _hardened_build isn't enough - but an 
 F23
 live image with an F21 build of isolinux does boot.
 
 I'll try and figure out the difference between the two builds.

I haven't managed to figure out the precise cause yet, but I've filed a
bug with what I managed to work out so far: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234653 .
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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 20:58 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
 
  I'll try and figure out the difference between the two builds.
 
 Same version of GCC??

No, but that doesn't mean that's the important factor.
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