Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-24 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 23 May 2015, Russel Winder wrote:

> I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)
> 
> However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
> assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
> out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
> with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
> missing the relevant bit.

dnf update --best will give you some idea of what the the dependency 
issues are. With my update to F22 the issues were plymouth packages where 
the ISO image I used was ahead of the repos (but the packages were in 
updates-testing) and an xorg package that had gone in F22 and needed to be 
removed.

Michael Young
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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 05/23/2015 11:58 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> if you're talking about f22, your issues are likely due to updates-testing 
> repo recently becoming disabled by default.
>
> Either re-enable it or run: dnf distro-sync
>  
I also just noticed I now have 2 menu items under System-Administration.
1. Yumex, and Yumex (dnf)
first time I clicked on Yumex (dnf) it crashed.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 10:58 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> […]
> 
> if you're talking about f22, your issues are likely due to updates
> -testing 
> repo recently becoming disabled by default.
> 
> Either re-enable it or run: dnf distro-sync

I am on Rawhide, but perhaps the same has happened there.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Joerg Lechner
HI;
I installed Yumex for dnf.
Kind Regards


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Von: Russel Winder 
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Verschickt: Sa, 23 Mai 2015 5:33 pm
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I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum
:-)

However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
assume
due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
out what the
dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
with dnf. The dnf help
is either not being helpful or I am just
missing the relevant bit.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 05/23/2015 05:33 PM, Russel Winder wrote:

I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)

However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
missing the relevant bit.



You are likely facing the consequences of the dnf's changes having been 
discussed in


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-April/209697.html
ff.

I had been facing this issue myself and consider this dnf behavior 
change to be such kind of harmful and silly, I feel to decision to use 
dnf on fc22 should be reverted.


Ralf

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Rex Dieter
Russel Winder wrote:

> I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)
> 
> However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
> assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
> out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
> with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
> missing the relevant bit.

if you're talking about f22, your issues are likely due to updates-testing 
repo recently becoming disabled by default.

Either re-enable it or run: dnf distro-sync

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Re: DNF vs yum performance question

2014-06-15 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Bob Lightfoot  wrote:

> Dear Team:
>When running dnf check-update --refresh and comparing to yum
> check-update I've noticed that if the same package occurs in multiple
> repos {aka. local and remote repos for example} that dnf will list all
> packages while yum will list only the package from the repo which
> would be used for update.  I'm not sure if this is as desired in dnf
> or just plain cornfusing.  Just wanted to point out this is one more
> ideosyncrosity of dnf.
>

dnf check-update lists available updates from the enabled repositories, and
if the same update is available from multiple repos it will be shown twice

check-update is not the same as the resulting transaction of a dnf update.

I does exactly what the man page says it does

http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/command_ref.html#check-update-command

and please if your think something is a bug, then make a bugzilla repost,
fdl is not a bugtracker.

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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-13 Thread nonamedotc

On 11/12/2013 08:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

HI


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM, nonamedotc wrote:

If that's true - it might be a tad inconvenient?


File a bug report against dnf noting the difference and you will get an
authoritative answer as to whether it is a bug or a intended design

Rahul




Done! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1029948
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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM, nonamedotc wrote:

> If that's true - it might be a tad inconvenient?
>

File a bug report against dnf noting the difference and you will get an
authoritative answer as to whether it is a bug or a intended design

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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread nonamedotc

On 11/12/2013 04:30 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

nonamedotc (nonamed...@fedoraproject.org) said:

dnf and yum are showing different information for the command
{dnf/yum} groups list.

Particularly, not all the DE/WM seem to be listed in dnf output but
it is listed in yum. I am just wondering if this is a bug or if it's
intentional. I would much appreciate it if someone can point me to
relevant documentation.


yum treats 'environments' as groups that can be selected. It appears DNF
does not.

Bill



If that's true - it might be a tad inconvenient?
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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
nonamedotc (nonamed...@fedoraproject.org) said: 
> dnf and yum are showing different information for the command
> {dnf/yum} groups list.
> 
> Particularly, not all the DE/WM seem to be listed in dnf output but
> it is listed in yum. I am just wondering if this is a bug or if it's
> intentional. I would much appreciate it if someone can point me to
> relevant documentation.

yum treats 'environments' as groups that can be selected. It appears DNF
does not.

Bill
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