Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
hm, that reminds me of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887302 the relevant part of that report: Release notes for F18 do not mention minimum system requirements too, ouch - please clone this bug as appropriate (I'm not reporting for Release Notes as I do not know if that belongs there ... the sole point of this bug is that the user should *somehow* get the infromation that F18 needs _more than_ 768 MiB RAM, which is a thing that I was unable to found even after 10 minutes at Google ...) Dne St 9. ledna 2013 01:47:53, Frantisek Hanzlik napsal(a): > i'm trying install f18 on older i686 machine (1.8GHz P4 CPU/512 MB > RAM/160 GB HDD/Radeon 9000 64MB graphics), doing NFS graphical > installation with XFCE desktop (and several add-ons groups). > Installation started from installation CD (images/boot.iso image), > anaconda 18.37.8. Install CD Media check is fine. > Machine always stop respond in "Checking software dependencies..." > phase; CD-ROM permanently rotate and it's all. > > I suspect this may be caused by insufficient RAM (althought I was > hoping that 512 MB will be sufficient - F17 requires 768MB and it's > installer seems be much cleverer and more functional than this in > F18). > Release notes and Installation guides F18 drafts seems not contain > info about HW requirements, can someone say it? > > TIA, Franta -- Karel Volný QE BaseOs/Daemons Team Red Hat Czech, Brno tel. +420 532294274 (RH: +420 532294111 ext. 8262074) xmpp ka...@jabber.cz :: "Never attribute to malice what can :: easily be explained by stupidity." -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
John Reiser wrote: > On 01/08/2013 04:47 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> i'm trying install f18 on older i686 machine (1.8GHz P4 CPU/512 MB >> RAM/160 GB HDD/Radeon 9000 64MB graphics), doing NFS graphical >> installation with XFCE desktop (and several add-ons groups). >> Installation started from installation CD (images/boot.iso image), >> anaconda 18.37.8. Install CD Media check is fine. >> Machine always stop respond in "Checking software dependencies..." >> phase; CD-ROM permanently rotate and it's all. >> >> I suspect this may be caused by insufficient RAM ... > > If you have concerns about RAM, then your first attempt should be > with no add-on groups. Or, if you do try add-ons but run into trouble > then you should try again without the add-ons. > > I just tried Fedora-18-Final-RC2-i386-DVD after converting to USB2,0 > using livecd-iso-to-disk. My 1.6GHz machine has 1GB RAM, but I restricted > the kernel to 511MB by appending " mem=511m" to the end of the kernel > command line [note the lower-case 'm'.] Switching to VT2 after boot > [type Ctrl-Alt-F2] then "cat /proc/meminfo" showed "MemTotal: 507984 kB", > so I was running as if only 511MB of RAM. The graphics card is > ATI 9250 (9200 PRO) with 128MB. [Switch back Ctrl-Alt-F6 for graphics.] > > I had no trouble "Checking software dependencies" with either the default > Gnome3 desktop, or after changing to Xfce desktop. /proc/meminfo showed: > MemFree:11180 kB > Buffers:32664 kB > Cached:269504 kB > SwapTotal: 0 kB > Committed_AS: 483308 kB > and "ps alx | grep anac" showed anaconda with VSZ=219M and RSS=128M. > I did not continue with actual installation because I didn't want > my existing boot configuration (grub1, BIOS drives swapped, ...) clobbered. > I had 2GB of swap space configured by manual partitioning, re-using > an existing linux-swap(v1) partition; but note that no swap had been > used yet because SwapTotal: 0 kB. > > So, I would say that 511MB is enough to start actual package installation > for default Xfce desktop. [Last spring I installed Fedora 17 default > Gnome3 desktop complete from USB2.0 using 383MB@700MHz and kernel boot > parameter " nomemcheck". It took 80 minutes versus 17 minutes > on my 8GB@3GHz machine. I estimate DVD would have taken around > 2.5 hours due to repeated spin-up and paging from squashfs on DVD.] It seems You are right, I now tried install Xfce with 512 MB RAM and without any add-ons and this work. But installation with add-ons and 1GB RAM had only ~ 1800 packages, which isn't too - on previous releases I routinely had installations with 3000-3500 RPM packages. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
Adam Williamson ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/01/2013 03:08: On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 01:47 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: i'm trying install f18 on older i686 machine (1.8GHz P4 CPU/512 MB RAM/160 GB HDD/Radeon 9000 64MB graphics), doing NFS graphical installation with XFCE desktop (and several add-ons groups). Installation started from installation CD (images/boot.iso image), anaconda 18.37.8. Install CD Media check is fine. Machine always stop respond in "Checking software dependencies..." phase; CD-ROM permanently rotate and it's all. I suspect this may be caused by insufficient RAM (althought I was hoping that 512 MB will be sufficient - F17 requires 768MB and it's installer seems be much cleverer and more functional than this in F18). Release notes and Installation guides F18 drafts seems not contain info about HW requirements, can someone say it? That probably is it, yes. I had checking the RAM requirements on my todo list for weeks, but never got time for it. I think, the last time anyone checked, it needed at least 768 in most cases. unless you say not to check memory on the command line of the installation tools :-) -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F17 (Beefy Miracle) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
i have successfully installed f18 (post-beta) on 512 mb computer, several times (from netinst). so 512 mb should be enough. anyway, there's always the vnc option, i suppose. i would check something else, like the installer logs, or the computer hardware. i would also try the gnome desktop, maybe there is something wrong with the xfce package selection. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 01:47 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> i'm trying install f18 on older i686 machine (1.8GHz P4 CPU/512 MB >> RAM/160 GB HDD/Radeon 9000 64MB graphics), doing NFS graphical >> installation with XFCE desktop (and several add-ons groups). >> Installation started from installation CD (images/boot.iso image), >> anaconda 18.37.8. Install CD Media check is fine. >> Machine always stop respond in "Checking software dependencies..." >> phase; CD-ROM permanently rotate and it's all. >> >> I suspect this may be caused by insufficient RAM (althought I was >> hoping that 512 MB will be sufficient - F17 requires 768MB and it's >> installer seems be much cleverer and more functional than this in >> F18). >> Release notes and Installation guides F18 drafts seems not contain >> info about HW requirements, can someone say it? > > That probably is it, yes. I had checking the RAM requirements on my todo > list for weeks, but never got time for it. I think, the last time anyone > checked, it needed at least 768 in most cases. Thanks. I now, with 1 GB of RAM, successfuly install F18. I'm litle confused from new anaconda, but this is perhaps about new mail thread. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
On 2013-01-08 18:08 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: I had checking the RAM requirements on my todo list for weeks, but never got time for it. I think, the last time anyone checked, it needed at least 768 in most cases. Even when ample HD swap space is configured and available? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
On 01/08/2013 04:47 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > i'm trying install f18 on older i686 machine (1.8GHz P4 CPU/512 MB > RAM/160 GB HDD/Radeon 9000 64MB graphics), doing NFS graphical > installation with XFCE desktop (and several add-ons groups). > Installation started from installation CD (images/boot.iso image), > anaconda 18.37.8. Install CD Media check is fine. > Machine always stop respond in "Checking software dependencies..." > phase; CD-ROM permanently rotate and it's all. > > I suspect this may be caused by insufficient RAM ... If you have concerns about RAM, then your first attempt should be with no add-on groups. Or, if you do try add-ons but run into trouble then you should try again without the add-ons. I just tried Fedora-18-Final-RC2-i386-DVD after converting to USB2,0 using livecd-iso-to-disk. My 1.6GHz machine has 1GB RAM, but I restricted the kernel to 511MB by appending " mem=511m" to the end of the kernel command line [note the lower-case 'm'.] Switching to VT2 after boot [type Ctrl-Alt-F2] then "cat /proc/meminfo" showed "MemTotal: 507984 kB", so I was running as if only 511MB of RAM. The graphics card is ATI 9250 (9200 PRO) with 128MB. [Switch back Ctrl-Alt-F6 for graphics.] I had no trouble "Checking software dependencies" with either the default Gnome3 desktop, or after changing to Xfce desktop. /proc/meminfo showed: MemFree:11180 kB Buffers:32664 kB Cached:269504 kB SwapTotal: 0 kB Committed_AS: 483308 kB and "ps alx | grep anac" showed anaconda with VSZ=219M and RSS=128M. I did not continue with actual installation because I didn't want my existing boot configuration (grub1, BIOS drives swapped, ...) clobbered. I had 2GB of swap space configured by manual partitioning, re-using an existing linux-swap(v1) partition; but note that no swap had been used yet because SwapTotal: 0 kB. So, I would say that 511MB is enough to start actual package installation for default Xfce desktop. [Last spring I installed Fedora 17 default Gnome3 desktop complete from USB2.0 using 383MB@700MHz and kernel boot parameter " nomemcheck". It took 80 minutes versus 17 minutes on my 8GB@3GHz machine. I estimate DVD would have taken around 2.5 hours due to repeated spin-up and paging from squashfs on DVD.] -- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f18 i386 installer memory requirements
On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 01:47 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > i'm trying install f18 on older i686 machine (1.8GHz P4 CPU/512 MB > RAM/160 GB HDD/Radeon 9000 64MB graphics), doing NFS graphical > installation with XFCE desktop (and several add-ons groups). > Installation started from installation CD (images/boot.iso image), > anaconda 18.37.8. Install CD Media check is fine. > Machine always stop respond in "Checking software dependencies..." > phase; CD-ROM permanently rotate and it's all. > > I suspect this may be caused by insufficient RAM (althought I was > hoping that 512 MB will be sufficient - F17 requires 768MB and it's > installer seems be much cleverer and more functional than this in > F18). > Release notes and Installation guides F18 drafts seems not contain > info about HW requirements, can someone say it? That probably is it, yes. I had checking the RAM requirements on my todo list for weeks, but never got time for it. I think, the last time anyone checked, it needed at least 768 in most cases. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
