Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
Neal Becker wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 07:09 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >> >>> Remember I first saw this with nvidia blob - so it's not a nouveau issue. >>> >>> Here is another strange data point. >>> >>> It seems to happen 100% of the time when I close laptop and transport >>> to/from >>> work. But last night tested 3 times close - wait till light is flashing >>> indicating sleep, then open - and no failures. >>> >>> Then closed it for the night and checked in the morning. It had failed. >>> >>> So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than >>> a short time to fail. >> >> That's not the case for me, a short suspend or VT switch still triggers >> it. Hmm, maybe we don't have the same thing after all. I still didn't >> get time to look at mine in detail, though, been doing F20 release >> stuff; I'll try and get around to it today... > > I'd be extremely surprised if these two very similar sounding failures, > occurring on the same update, were not closely related > OK, I did reproduce it without having shut down for a 'long' time - time is (thankfully) not an issue. I wonder if somehow systemd is resuming both X.org and plymouth? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 19:34 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote: >> >So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than >> >a short time to fail. >> >> Might it be a hibernation issue? After some period of time, perhaps your >> machine wants to move from suspend to hibernate. > > Not for me, no. I never use hibernation in any form. No, my computer never uses hibernation -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
On 12/19/2013 06:09 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:18 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 11:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 07:33 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Neal Becker wrote: Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could switch vt, but couldn't wake up display. Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see the fedora boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs (could switch vt). Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, but one note: I'm using kde (kdm) That's fun - I'm seeing something similar on F21 (and had it intermittently with late F20) but on GNOME. On GNOME, restarting the Shell with alt-f2, r makes everything work. Do you have a cursor when you see the bootsplash? Can you move it, and does it change shape in the places you'd expect it to? I suspect the same thing's happening to us both... Just noticed something interesting - I just switched VTs, and saw the same bug (when I came back to VT1, the bootsplash was showing, and I needed alt-f2, r to get Shell back). Does that happen to you too? I have a cursor I can move. Didn't notice it change shape - I'll check next time. Don't quite understand the 2nd phenomenon you're describing. Is this when it's locked up on resume that you see this? Or just any time you switch VTs? Don't quite understand how you triggered it - all I have to do is open the laptop lid and I'm looking at a bootsplash and have to kill xserver. Just switching VTs with no suspend involved seems to trigger it here, now. I don't get much in the system logs, though. I'll have to investigate with drm.debug , see if it's a nouveau issue. Remember I first saw this with nvidia blob - so it's not a nouveau issue. Here is another strange data point. It seems to happen 100% of the time when I close laptop and transport to/from work. But last night tested 3 times close - wait till light is flashing indicating sleep, then open - and no failures. Then closed it for the night and checked in the morning. It had failed. So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than a short time to fail. When I was on F20, I was experiencing this with nouveau. Switching to the nvidia blob fixed that and many other video related issues (with KDE - gnome is perpetually broken). I was never able to track down a reason for that because I wasn't ready to become a tester yet when this problem first occurred. However, I am now using F21 and nouveau, and the problem is back. And yet, mine is still slightly different from both of the other cases - my system is 90% unresponsive. I say 90% because I can ssh into it, but it takes forever to authenticate and run any commands. The pipe eventually breaks and kicks me out. If I can manage to get in again (which is rare) I can try to reboot it from command line, but more often than not I have to do a hard shutdown since the system is unresponsive, even to the power button being pushed. The screen itself - whether the laptop screen or an external monitor connected via HDMI - never activates. Upon rebooting today, though. ABRT had caught a race condition on CPU2, tied directly to nouveau and drm. I am currently working through those two ABRT bugs and will attach them to bz 1044304 because my gut feeling at this point is that it is tied together through the unknown opcode error, and is a much farther-reaching problem than I first thought. -- Dan Mossor Systems Engineer at Large Fedora QA Team Volunteer FAS: dmossor IRC: danofsatx San Antonio, Texas, USA -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 19:34 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote: > >So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than > >a > >short time to fail. > > Might it be a hibernation issue? After some period of time, perhaps your > machine wants to move from suspend to hibernate. Not for me, no. I never use hibernation in any form. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
>So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than a >short time to fail. Might it be a hibernation issue? After some period of time, perhaps your machine wants to move from suspend to hibernate. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 07:09 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Remember I first saw this with nvidia blob - so it's not a nouveau issue. >> >> Here is another strange data point. >> >> It seems to happen 100% of the time when I close laptop and transport to/from >> work. But last night tested 3 times close - wait till light is flashing >> indicating sleep, then open - and no failures. >> >> Then closed it for the night and checked in the morning. It had failed. >> >> So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than a >> short time to fail. > > That's not the case for me, a short suspend or VT switch still triggers > it. Hmm, maybe we don't have the same thing after all. I still didn't > get time to look at mine in detail, though, been doing F20 release > stuff; I'll try and get around to it today... I'd be extremely surprised if these two very similar sounding failures, occurring on the same update, were not closely related -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 07:09 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Remember I first saw this with nvidia blob - so it's not a nouveau issue. > > Here is another strange data point. > > It seems to happen 100% of the time when I close laptop and transport to/from > work. But last night tested 3 times close - wait till light is flashing > indicating sleep, then open - and no failures. > > Then closed it for the night and checked in the morning. It had failed. > > So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than a > short time to fail. That's not the case for me, a short suspend or VT switch still triggers it. Hmm, maybe we don't have the same thing after all. I still didn't get time to look at mine in detail, though, been doing F20 release stuff; I'll try and get around to it today... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:18 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >> Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 11:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 07:33 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >> >> > Neal Becker wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. >> >> > > >> >> > > First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could >> >> > > switch vt, but couldn't wake up display. >> >> > > >> >> > > Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see >> >> > > the fedora >> >> > > boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs >> >> > > (could switch vt). >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or >> >> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, but one note: I'm using kde (kdm) >> >> >> >> That's fun - I'm seeing something similar on F21 (and had it >> >> intermittently with late F20) but on GNOME. On GNOME, restarting the >> >> Shell with alt-f2, r makes everything work. >> >> >> >> Do you have a cursor when you see the bootsplash? Can you move it, and >> >> does it change shape in the places you'd expect it to? I suspect the >> >> same thing's happening to us both... >> > >> > Just noticed something interesting - I just switched VTs, and saw the >> > same bug (when I came back to VT1, the bootsplash was showing, and I >> > needed alt-f2, r to get Shell back). Does that happen to you too? >> >> I have a cursor I can move. Didn't notice it change shape - I'll check next >> time. >> >> Don't quite understand the 2nd phenomenon you're describing. Is this when >> it's >> locked up on resume that you see this? Or just any time you switch VTs? >> Don't quite understand how you triggered it - all I have to do is open the >> laptop lid and I'm looking at a bootsplash and have to kill xserver. > > Just switching VTs with no suspend involved seems to trigger it here, > now. I don't get much in the system logs, though. I'll have to > investigate with drm.debug , see if it's a nouveau issue. Remember I first saw this with nvidia blob - so it's not a nouveau issue. Here is another strange data point. It seems to happen 100% of the time when I close laptop and transport to/from work. But last night tested 3 times close - wait till light is flashing indicating sleep, then open - and no failures. Then closed it for the night and checked in the morning. It had failed. So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than a short time to fail. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:18 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 11:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 07:33 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > >> > Neal Becker wrote: > >> > > >> > > Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. > >> > > > >> > > First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could > >> > > switch vt, but couldn't wake up display. > >> > > > >> > > Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see > >> > > the > >> > > fedora > >> > > boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs > >> > > (could > >> > > switch vt). > >> > > > >> > > >> > Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or > >> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, > >> > but one note: I'm using kde (kdm) > >> > >> That's fun - I'm seeing something similar on F21 (and had it > >> intermittently with late F20) but on GNOME. On GNOME, restarting the > >> Shell with alt-f2, r makes everything work. > >> > >> Do you have a cursor when you see the bootsplash? Can you move it, and > >> does it change shape in the places you'd expect it to? I suspect the > >> same thing's happening to us both... > > > > Just noticed something interesting - I just switched VTs, and saw the > > same bug (when I came back to VT1, the bootsplash was showing, and I > > needed alt-f2, r to get Shell back). Does that happen to you too? > > I have a cursor I can move. Didn't notice it change shape - I'll check next > time. > > Don't quite understand the 2nd phenomenon you're describing. Is this when > it's > locked up on resume that you see this? Or just any time you switch VTs? > Don't > quite understand how you triggered it - all I have to do is open the laptop > lid > and I'm looking at a bootsplash and have to kill xserver. Just switching VTs with no suspend involved seems to trigger it here, now. I don't get much in the system logs, though. I'll have to investigate with drm.debug , see if it's a nouveau issue. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 11:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 07:33 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >> > Neal Becker wrote: >> > >> > > Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. >> > > >> > > First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could >> > > switch vt, but couldn't wake up display. >> > > >> > > Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see the >> > > fedora >> > > boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs (could >> > > switch vt). >> > > >> > >> > Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, >> > but one note: I'm using kde (kdm) >> >> That's fun - I'm seeing something similar on F21 (and had it >> intermittently with late F20) but on GNOME. On GNOME, restarting the >> Shell with alt-f2, r makes everything work. >> >> Do you have a cursor when you see the bootsplash? Can you move it, and >> does it change shape in the places you'd expect it to? I suspect the >> same thing's happening to us both... > > Just noticed something interesting - I just switched VTs, and saw the > same bug (when I came back to VT1, the bootsplash was showing, and I > needed alt-f2, r to get Shell back). Does that happen to you too? I have a cursor I can move. Didn't notice it change shape - I'll check next time. Don't quite understand the 2nd phenomenon you're describing. Is this when it's locked up on resume that you see this? Or just any time you switch VTs? Don't quite understand how you triggered it - all I have to do is open the laptop lid and I'm looking at a bootsplash and have to kill xserver. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 11:56 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 07:33 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > > Neal Becker wrote: > > > > > Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. > > > > > > First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could > > > switch > > > vt, but couldn't wake up display. > > > > > > Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see the > > > fedora > > > boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs (could > > > switch vt). > > > > > > > Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, > > but > > one note: I'm using kde (kdm) > > That's fun - I'm seeing something similar on F21 (and had it > intermittently with late F20) but on GNOME. On GNOME, restarting the > Shell with alt-f2, r makes everything work. > > Do you have a cursor when you see the bootsplash? Can you move it, and > does it change shape in the places you'd expect it to? I suspect the > same thing's happening to us both... Just noticed something interesting - I just switched VTs, and saw the same bug (when I came back to VT1, the bootsplash was showing, and I needed alt-f2, r to get Shell back). Does that happen to you too? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 07:33 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > > > Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. > > > > First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could > > switch > > vt, but couldn't wake up display. > > > > Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see the > > fedora > > boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs (could > > switch vt). > > > > Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, but > one note: I'm using kde (kdm) That's fun - I'm seeing something similar on F21 (and had it intermittently with late F20) but on GNOME. On GNOME, restarting the Shell with alt-f2, r makes everything work. Do you have a cursor when you see the bootsplash? Can you move it, and does it change shape in the places you'd expect it to? I suspect the same thing's happening to us both... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)
Neal Becker wrote: > Just updated f19->f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. > > First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could switch > vt, but couldn't wake up display. > > Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see the > fedora > boot splash. Cannot get any response to keys, except ctrl-alt-bs (could > switch vt). > Nothing interesting found in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, but one note: I'm using kde (kdm) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
