Re: Release criterion proposal: modify conflicts/dependencies criterion to cover all critical packaging errors

2012-12-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 12/04/2012 01:03 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
> >> We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
> >> any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:
> >>
> >> There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
> >> live desktop media which cause the package to fail to install. Such
> >> critical errors include, but are not limited to, undeclared conflicts
> >> (explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) and unresolved dependencies
> > I'm in favor of this new one.
> 
> As am I

Thanks. The inclusion of 'live desktop media' is slightly tricky, I
should have unpacked that: it's basically impossible for a package to
get onto the live media if it's not installable, as it has to be
installed to build the media, but including the phrase gives us a
criterion to use when a package is blocking the creation of the live
media...
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Re: Release criterion proposal: modify conflicts/dependencies criterion to cover all critical packaging errors

2012-12-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson

On 12/04/2012 01:03 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:

We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:

There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
live desktop media which cause the package to fail to install. Such
critical errors include, but are not limited to, undeclared conflicts
(explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) and unresolved dependencies

I'm in favor of this new one.


As am I
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Re: Release criterion proposal: modify conflicts/dependencies criterion to cover all critical packaging errors

2012-12-04 Thread Kamil Paral
> We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
> any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:
> 
> There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
> live desktop media which cause the package to fail to install. Such
> critical errors include, but are not limited to, undeclared conflicts
> (explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) and unresolved dependencies

I'm in favor of this new one.
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Re: Release criterion proposal: modify conflicts/dependencies criterion to cover all critical packaging errors

2012-12-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 10:14:15 -0800,
  Adam Williamson  wrote:


There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
live desktop media which cause the package to fail to install. Such
critical errors include, but are not limited to, undeclared conflicts
(explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) and unresolved dependencies

Comments, thoughts, rotten fruit? Thanks!


I like the suggestion being more general, rather than trying to add more 
special cases.

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Release criterion proposal: modify conflicts/dependencies criterion to cover all critical packaging errors

2012-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873817 came up for
discussion in the blocker meeting today, and highlighted an inadequacy
in the criteria. An Alpha criterion currently reads:

"There must be no file conflicts (cases where the files in some packages
conflict but the packages have explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable)
or unresolved package dependencies during a media-based (DVD) install"

However, the intent here is that all packages on the media should be
installable, excepting combinations of packages with explicit Conflicts:
between them. This bug shows a case where the error isn't a non-explict
conflict or a bad dep, but a scriptlet error. Clearly, the criterion is
too narrow.

We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:

There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
live desktop media which cause the package to fail to install. Such
critical errors include, but are not limited to, undeclared conflicts
(explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) and unresolved dependencies

Comments, thoughts, rotten fruit? Thanks!
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