Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2022-07-14 11:35, George R Goffe via test wrote:

I experienced other problems during this "project", namely the command line 
length problem in the grub menu entry (extensive cursor movement caused an apparent 
system freeze). Should I write this up?


I've never seen that.  Certain systems can be very slow editing the 
command line in grub, it looks like it's slowly redrawing the entire 
screen for every movement or character.  You could start a new email 
thread and/or create a bugzilla.



I also have been having trouble booting with the 5.19 kernels. After the 
dracut-post processing, something runs through devices by UUID but NEVER 
completes so... NO BOOT. Should I write this up?


What is "dracut-post processing"?  Start a new email thread and/or 
create a bugzilla.

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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-14 Thread George R Goffe via test
Hi,

Thanks to those who responded! Sam, Dan, Adam, Sergio...

The problem has been resolved. I removed all but the kernel-headers package and 
paused there to run vboxconfig. I got lucky so I stopped... Otherwise I would 
have done the suggested "dnf distro-sync kernel-headers" command.

I experienced other problems during this "project", namely the command line 
length problem in the grub menu entry (extensive cursor movement caused an 
apparent system freeze). Should I write this up?

I also have been having trouble booting with the 5.19 kernels. After the 
dracut-post processing, something runs through devices by UUID but NEVER 
completes so... NO BOOT. Should I write this up?

Otherwise, things are GREAT here (at the moment anyway)... SO. THANKS AGAIN FOR 
THE HELP!!!

Best regards and STAY SAFE!

George...
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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too. (Samuel Sieb)

2022-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-07-11 at 00:07 +, George R Goffe via test wrote:
> Sergio,
> 
> Thanks for responding to my plea... It's definitely appreciated.
> 
> Part of the install of VirtualBox is the compilation of LKMs which use the 
> kernel headers. Since 5-19 lacks support in VB (as far as I know at this 
> point), if I run vboxconfig to recompile the LKMs, that compilation would 
> fail and VB would stop working (I think). Parts of me thinks that if the 
> compile fails, the targets of the compile process would remain unchanged but 
> I'm not willing to take the chance. Sigh...
> 
> Am I missing something here?

You can do what Sergio suggested - `dnf distro-sync kernel-headers`. If
you now have only the official repos enabled, that should downgrade it
to the 'correct' current version for your release.
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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too. (Samuel Sieb)

2022-07-10 Thread George R Goffe via test
Sergio,

Thanks for responding to my plea... It's definitely appreciated.

Part of the install of VirtualBox is the compilation of LKMs which use the 
kernel headers. Since 5-19 lacks support in VB (as far as I know at this 
point), if I run vboxconfig to recompile the LKMs, that compilation would fail 
and VB would stop working (I think). Parts of me thinks that if the compile 
fails, the targets of the compile process would remain unchanged but I'm not 
willing to take the chance. Sigh...

Am I missing something here?

Best regards,

George...







On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 02:50:17 PM PDT, Sérgio Basto  
wrote: 





On Sun, 2022-07-10 at 15:34 +, George R Goffe via test wrote:
> Sam,
> 
> Thanks for responding to this plea for help... It's appreciated.
> 
> As expected, all kernel packages would have been successful... EXCEPT
> for the kernel-headers package... 503 packages affected. Sigh.
> 

yes , you should keep kernel-headers , you may do 

dnf distro-sync kernel-headers 




> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> George...
> 
> Sam wrote, "Try uninstalling each one separately to see which one is
> causing the 
> problem."

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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2022-07-10 08:34, George R Goffe via test wrote:

Thanks for responding to this plea for help... It's appreciated.

As expected, all kernel packages would have been successful... EXCEPT for the 
kernel-headers package... 503 packages affected. Sigh.

What are your thoughts?


Delete them all except the headers package.  You can leave that in, it's 
fine.

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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too. (Samuel Sieb)

2022-07-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sun, 2022-07-10 at 15:34 +, George R Goffe via test wrote:
> Sam,
> 
> Thanks for responding to this plea for help... It's appreciated.
> 
> As expected, all kernel packages would have been successful... EXCEPT
> for the kernel-headers package... 503 packages affected. Sigh.
> 

yes , you should keep kernel-headers , you may do 

dnf distro-sync kernel-headers 



> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> George...
> 
> Sam wrote, "Try uninstalling each one separately to see which one is
> causing the 
> problem."
> 
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Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too. (Samuel Sieb)

2022-07-10 Thread George R Goffe via test
Sam,

Thanks for responding to this plea for help... It's appreciated.

As expected, all kernel packages would have been successful... EXCEPT for the 
kernel-headers package... 503 packages affected. Sigh.

What are your thoughts?

Best regards,

George...

Sam wrote, "Try uninstalling each one separately to see which one is causing 
the 
problem."

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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-10 Thread George R Goffe via test
Dan,

Thanks for responding to this plea for help... It's appreciated.

I had "frozen" this system at the "release" of the 5.18 kernel... but goofed 
and let the 5.19 kernel get installed. 

So, by letting the 5.19 kernel get installed, EVERYTHING that uses the kernel 
headers was upgraded. Yes? In the past I have tried to downgrade from an 
installed package but got messages about the previous version(s) were not 
available in the repositories. I suspect that this is also the case with this 
current situation. Yes? There's no way to go except forward. Am I right?

On the 5.19 problems and booting:

The boot gets as far as the dracut-pre-mount hook which appears to succeed but 
then something starts looking at devices(?) vi UUID. In my previous experiences 
with the 5.19 kernel, this NEVER succeeds. Some kind of bug? Worth reporting?

My current grub command line is 3 screen lines long. I had "quiet" added to 
this line but tried to edit this out temporarily from the command line by 
typing "e" at the grub menu. I get the requested grub entry but when I try to 
move the cursor (either forward or backward from the command line, the cursor 
moves a bit but then the system just freezes. Another bug? Worth reporting?

As if this situation isn't bad enough, there are over 4000 upgrades that are 
broken and/or have dependencies unavailable. This situation began with the perl 
fiasco. I haven't had the time to figure out just what the problem is now. 
Otherwise, the system is at the current bleeding edge as far as upgrades are 
concerned.

It really looks like I've stepped in it this time. Any suggestions, help, 
hints, tips would be greatly appreciated.

At least the 5.18 kernel runs... Sigh.

Best regards,

George...


 On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 02:59:54 AM PDT, Dan Horák  wrote: 

On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 00:28:07 + (UTC)

George R Goffe via test  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm having trouble with dnf and the 5.19 kernel. 
> 
> I have tried to exclude the 5.19 kernel on this system (FC37) because 1) 
> Virtual box doesn't seem to support it yet, 2) the system gets stuck during 
> boot and the boot will NOT succeed (It seems to be running a list of UUIDs).
> 
> The problem: somehow I managed to upgrade to the 5.19 kernel and am now 
> stuck. dnf seems to want to remove EVERYTHING that it thinks is dependent on 
> this kernel.I have used this command "dnf --noautoremove erase  
> kernel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-core-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-devel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-headers-5.19.0-0.rc5.git0.1.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-modules-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-modules-extra-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64'
> 
> 
> which is where the 501 dependencies comes from.
> 
> I am a loss as to just what to do to get 5.19 out of my system. Is this 
> happenstance a bug? Do all these packages REALLY depend on the kernel version?
> 
> "Normally" I would do something like "rpm --nodeps -e kernel*5.19*". Could 
> the solution be that simple?
> 
> Any thoughts/hints/tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


do you have a different kernel (eg. 5.18) installed?

kernel-headers is Required by glibc-devel, thus if you have any "devel"
package installed, then they will be removed when kernel-headers will be
removed. There is only one instance of kernel-headers installed at any
time.


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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-10 Thread Dan Horák
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 00:28:07 + (UTC)
George R Goffe via test  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm having trouble with dnf and the 5.19 kernel. 
> 
> I have tried to exclude the 5.19 kernel on this system (FC37) because 1) 
> Virtual box doesn't seem to support it yet, 2) the system gets stuck during 
> boot and the boot will NOT succeed (It seems to be running a list of UUIDs).
> 
> The problem: somehow I managed to upgrade to the 5.19 kernel and am now 
> stuck. dnf seems to want to remove EVERYTHING that it thinks is dependent on 
> this kernel.I have used this command "dnf --noautoremove erase  
> kernel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-core-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-devel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-headers-5.19.0-0.rc5.git0.1.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-modules-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
> kernel-modules-extra-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64'
> 
> 
> which is where the 501 dependencies comes from.
> 
> I am a loss as to just what to do to get 5.19 out of my system. Is this 
> happenstance a bug? Do all these packages REALLY depend on the kernel version?
> 
> "Normally" I would do something like "rpm --nodeps -e kernel*5.19*". Could 
> the solution be that simple?
> 
> Any thoughts/hints/tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

do you have a different kernel (eg. 5.18) installed?

kernel-headers is Required by glibc-devel, thus if you have any "devel"
package installed, then they will be removed when kernel-headers will be
removed. There is only one instance of kernel-headers installed at any
time.


Dan
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Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2022-07-09 17:28, George R Goffe via test wrote:

I'm having trouble with dnf and the 5.19 kernel.

I have tried to exclude the 5.19 kernel on this system (FC37) because 1) 
Virtual box doesn't seem to support it yet, 2) the system gets stuck during 
boot and the boot will NOT succeed (It seems to be running a list of UUIDs).

The problem: somehow I managed to upgrade to the 5.19 kernel and am now stuck. dnf 
seems to want to remove EVERYTHING that it thinks is dependent on this kernel.I have 
used this command "dnf --noautoremove erase  
kernel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-core-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-devel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-headers-5.19.0-0.rc5.git0.1.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-modules-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-modules-extra-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64'

which is where the 501 dependencies comes from.


Try uninstalling each one separately to see which one is causing the 
problem.

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Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too.

2022-07-09 Thread George R Goffe via test
Hi,

I'm having trouble with dnf and the 5.19 kernel. 

I have tried to exclude the 5.19 kernel on this system (FC37) because 1) 
Virtual box doesn't seem to support it yet, 2) the system gets stuck during 
boot and the boot will NOT succeed (It seems to be running a list of UUIDs).

The problem: somehow I managed to upgrade to the 5.19 kernel and am now stuck. 
dnf seems to want to remove EVERYTHING that it thinks is dependent on this 
kernel.I have used this command "dnf --noautoremove erase  
kernel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-core-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-devel-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-headers-5.19.0-0.rc5.git0.1.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-modules-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64 
kernel-modules-extra-5.19.0-0.rc5.20220707git9f09069cde34.43.fc37.x86_64'


which is where the 501 dependencies comes from.

I am a loss as to just what to do to get 5.19 out of my system. Is this 
happenstance a bug? Do all these packages REALLY depend on the kernel version?

"Normally" I would do something like "rpm --nodeps -e kernel*5.19*". Could the 
solution be that simple?

Any thoughts/hints/tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

George...
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