Re: Should I make a tracking bug in fedora for problem reported upstream?

2011-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 09:43 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> I have reported https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41862 for an
> issue with 3.1 kernels crashing, typically on the order of hours after
> booting. Based on some names in the traceback, I suspect this is MD raid
> or luks related.
> 
> I reported this upstream, since that seems to be a better place to get
> attention for development kernel bugs, than Fedora's tracker. However,
> if this should be considered a beta blocker, then I should probably also
> make a Fedora bug entry so that it can be tracked as a blocker.
> 
> However it doesn't seem to meet the explicit requirements for a beta blocker.
> The only category it might fit in is a high severity bug. But if it really
> limited to systems using MD raid or luks encryption, I am not sure if
> it would meet that standard.
> 
> If it isn't a blocker, I'd rather not enter a duplicate bug in Fedora since
> that would just seem to be a waste of resources. (But maybe QA would rather
> see the bug entry anyway.)

You pretty much answered all your own questions. =) If you want to
propose it as a Fedora blocker formally then yes, you should create a
downstream bug. Since we have a while to go before Beta, if I were you,
I'd wait a bit longer until it's better understood and then bring it
downstream if appropriate, but there'd be nothing terrible about doing
it now. 

The kernel team is also generally pretty responsive in #fedora-kernel,
so you could simply flag up the upstream bug there and ask if anyone
wants to take a look and see how worried we should be.

As a general rule, only raise a bug in Fedora if it's needed for
something Fedora-specific: for the blocker process, or if you want to
request an upstream fix be brought downstream faster than it usually
would be (which varies from package to package of course).
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RE: Should I make a tracking bug in fedora for problem reported upstream?

2011-08-28 Thread John Dulaney


> From: br...@wolff.to
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Should I make a tracking bug in fedora for problem reported upstream?
>
> I have reported https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41862 for an
> issue with 3.1 kernels crashing, typically on the order of hours after
> booting. Based on some names in the traceback, I suspect this is MD raid
> or luks related.
>
> I reported this upstream, since that seems to be a better place to get
> attention for development kernel bugs, than Fedora's tracker. However,
> if this should be considered a beta blocker, then I should probably also
> make a Fedora bug entry so that it can be tracked as a blocker.
>
> However it doesn't seem to meet the explicit requirements for a beta blocker.
> The only category it might fit in is a high severity bug. But if it really
> limited to systems using MD raid or luks encryption, I am not sure if
> it would meet that standard.
>
> If it isn't a blocker, I'd rather not enter a duplicate bug in Fedora since
> that would just seem to be a waste of resources. (But maybe QA would rather
> see the bug entry anyway.)


I would stick in on b.rh.com and mark it as a blocker, since it does sort of
block Beta criteria 5.

John.
  
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Re: Should I make a tracking bug in fedora for problem reported upstream?

2011-08-28 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 28.8.2011 16:43, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a):
> I reported this upstream, since that seems to be a better place to get
> attention for development kernel bugs, than Fedora's tracker. However,
> if this should be considered a beta blocker, then I should probably also
> make a Fedora bug entry so that it can be tracked as a blocker.

This could be the reason for making a Fedora bug, but I would probably 
if I were you (but I don't it is required) discuss this on #fedora-qa on 
Freenode. People there usually have much better opinions about blockers 
and similar stuff.

Matěj

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Should I make a tracking bug in fedora for problem reported upstream?

2011-08-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I have reported https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41862 for an
issue with 3.1 kernels crashing, typically on the order of hours after
booting. Based on some names in the traceback, I suspect this is MD raid
or luks related.

I reported this upstream, since that seems to be a better place to get
attention for development kernel bugs, than Fedora's tracker. However,
if this should be considered a beta blocker, then I should probably also
make a Fedora bug entry so that it can be tracked as a blocker.

However it doesn't seem to meet the explicit requirements for a beta blocker.
The only category it might fit in is a high severity bug. But if it really
limited to systems using MD raid or luks encryption, I am not sure if
it would meet that standard.

If it isn't a blocker, I'd rather not enter a duplicate bug in Fedora since
that would just seem to be a waste of resources. (But maybe QA would rather
see the bug entry anyway.)
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