Supported CPUs'
Had a choice between here or kernel@ Apologies if it somewhere, more grey hair less grey matter. Does test@ fedora give a heads up, when cpus are no longer supported. eg kernel-3-15* will no longer support AMD AM2, Intel whatever Mister Google hasn't really returned specific info. Q: fedora no longer supported cpu's This was the closes result: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On 01/21/2014 02:30 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Had a choice between here or kernel@ Apologies if it somewhere, more grey hair less grey matter. Does test@ fedora give a heads up, when cpus are no longer supported. eg kernel-3-15* will no longer support AMD AM2, Intel whatever Mister Google hasn't really returned specific info. Q: fedora no longer supported cpu's This was the closes result: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support The kernel community decides that so check kernel@ for their SOP in that regard. JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On 21.01.2014 15:52, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/21/2014 02:30 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Had a choice between here or kernel@ Apologies if it somewhere, more grey hair less grey matter. Does test@ fedora give a heads up, when cpus are no longer supported. eg kernel-3-15* will no longer support AMD AM2, Intel whatever Mister Google hasn't really returned specific info. Q: fedora no longer supported cpu's This was the closes result: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support The kernel community decides that so check kernel@ for their SOP in that regard. JBG Perhaps carried away by reading [1]. :) poma [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTE2NzE -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:18:20 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps carried away by reading [1]. :) No I have some older gear, I don't like binning working kit. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 14:30:33 +, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Does test@ fedora give a heads up, when cpus are no longer supported. eg kernel-3-15* will no longer support AMD AM2, Intel whatever Generally there has been some notice. There was a significant discussion when we stopped building 586 kernels and what options were used for 686 builds. I don't think we had an announcement here when upstream dropped 386 support, but we weren't doing builds for those CPUs in Fedora for a long time before that change happened. There have also been some CPU relevant changes in software graphics support used as a fallback in gnome. Not all 686 machines support the exact same instruction set and I saw some issues on an AMD CPU (an Athlon MP). However, with CPUs that old, the software graphics fallback for gnome is not very usable and you'll want to use another desktop. Probably the next change to kernels to look for, would be the end of non-PAE kernel builds. I haven't heard any serious discussions about doing this, but that will affect some machines. I have a laptop that can't run PAE kernels (with a Pentium M CPU). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On 21.01.2014 16:20, Frank Murphy wrote: No I have some older gear, I don't like binning working kit. Just don't take too seriously what's written on 'fedora/wiki'. ;) poma -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On 21.01.2014 16:28, Bruno Wolff III wrote: There have also been some CPU relevant changes in software graphics support used as a fallback in gnome. Not all 686 machines support the exact same instruction set and I saw some issues on an AMD CPU (an Athlon MP). However, with CPUs that old, the software graphics fallback for gnome is not very usable and you'll want to use another desktop. Bruno, are you serious? :) gnome-[s]hell on i686 bare metal!? poma -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 16:41:00 +0100, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: On 21.01.2014 16:28, Bruno Wolff III wrote: There have also been some CPU relevant changes in software graphics support used as a fallback in gnome. Not all 686 machines support the exact same instruction set and I saw some issues on an AMD CPU (an Athlon MP). However, with CPUs that old, the software graphics fallback for gnome is not very usable and you'll want to use another desktop. Bruno, are you serious? :) Yes. gnome-[s]hell on i686 bare metal!? Gnome shell is not usable (for my defintion of usable, others may be more tolerant) using the llvm softpipe software driver fallback on a pair of Athlon MP CPUs. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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On 21.01.2014 17:05, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 16:41:00 +0100, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: On 21.01.2014 16:28, Bruno Wolff III wrote: There have also been some CPU relevant changes in software graphics support used as a fallback in gnome. Not all 686 machines support the exact same instruction set and I saw some issues on an AMD CPU (an Athlon MP). However, with CPUs that old, the software graphics fallback for gnome is not very usable and you'll want to use another desktop. Bruno, are you serious? :) Yes. gnome-[s]hell on i686 bare metal!? Gnome shell is not usable (for my defintion of usable, others may be more tolerant) using the llvm softpipe software driver fallback on a pair of Athlon MP CPUs. Good, cause a whole stuff about softpipe is so bloody lame! Big mama L! ;) poma -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test