Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 14:29 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Does apper work for package installation/removal
> > without PackageKit installed? And can you remove apper without KDE 
> going
> > away?
> 
> Pretty sure the answer to those are (should be!): no, yes, respectively.

so, it seems pretty pointless to support having PackageKit-Qt around
without PackageKit, right? I think it's fine to just make sure apper
lifts out, for people who want to yank PackageKit.
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Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Rex Dieter
Adam Williamson wrote:

> Does apper work for package installation/removal
> without PackageKit installed? And can you remove apper without KDE 
going
> away?

Pretty sure the answer to those are (should be!): no, yes, respectively.

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Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 14:28 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 4 September 2014 14:22, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> > So, apper requires 'PackageKit-qt', which sounds sane, but
> > 'PackageKit-qt' doesn't require PackageKit. Looks like that's already
> > filed:
> 
> Either that, or apper should require PackageKit directly -- IIRC there
> was some push a few releases ago to be able to install the client
> libraries and not the daemon for people that wanted nothing to do with
> PackageKit; depends on how much we care about those people :)

Welp, I asked rdieter and he said it looked like a no-brainer, so I went
ahead and 'fixed' it. Does apper work for package installation/removal
without PackageKit installed? And can you remove apper without KDE going
away?
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Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hughes
On 4 September 2014 14:22, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> So, apper requires 'PackageKit-qt', which sounds sane, but
> 'PackageKit-qt' doesn't require PackageKit. Looks like that's already
> filed:

Either that, or apper should require PackageKit directly -- IIRC there
was some push a few releases ago to be able to install the client
libraries and not the daemon for people that wanted nothing to do with
PackageKit; depends on how much we care about those people :)

Richard.
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Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 09/04/14 21:22, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Installed KDE to disk from the Live CD.
>>
>> Using apper to check for updates results in a pop up of
>>
>> "A problem that we were not expecting has occurred."
>> "The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service file"
>>
>> Installing "PackageKit" fixes the problem. 
>>
>> Don't see a bugzilla for it, but maybe it is already known?
> So, apper requires 'PackageKit-qt', which sounds sane, but
> 'PackageKit-qt' doesn't require PackageKit. Looks like that's already
> filed:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1003122

OK.  I only searched F21 and Rawhide since I couldn't believe it was an old 
issue.  :-) :-)

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Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 04 September 2014 17:43:16 Ed Greshko wrote:
> Installed KDE to disk from the Live CD.
> 
> Using apper to check for updates results in a pop up of
> 
> "A problem that we were not expecting has occurred."
> "The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service file"
> 
> Installing "PackageKit" fixes the problem. 
> 
> Don't see a bugzilla for it, but maybe it is already known?

This is a me too post. :-)

In one machine that I have updated using dnf I get the same (pesky) warning. 
Pesky because to get to the pop up you need to go to an empty desktop to be 
able to close it as it seems to be present in all (virtual) desktop but behind 
all the open windows.

Note that it happens even without me checking apper, although possibly the 
check for updates is the culprit.

Although I am not able to verify now I suspect that at some point in time I 
have removed PackageKit from the system.

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Re: apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Installed KDE to disk from the Live CD.
> 
> Using apper to check for updates results in a pop up of
> 
> "A problem that we were not expecting has occurred."
> "The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service file"
> 
> Installing "PackageKit" fixes the problem. 
> 
> Don't see a bugzilla for it, but maybe it is already known?

So, apper requires 'PackageKit-qt', which sounds sane, but
'PackageKit-qt' doesn't require PackageKit. Looks like that's already
filed:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1003122
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apper in Alpha TC5 F21

2014-09-04 Thread Ed Greshko
Installed KDE to disk from the Live CD.

Using apper to check for updates results in a pop up of

"A problem that we were not expecting has occurred."
"The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service file"

Installing "PackageKit" fixes the problem. 

Don't see a bugzilla for it, but maybe it is already known?

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