Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-24 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 23 May 2015, Russel Winder wrote:

> I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)
> 
> However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
> assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
> out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
> with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
> missing the relevant bit.

dnf update --best will give you some idea of what the the dependency 
issues are. With my update to F22 the issues were plymouth packages where 
the ISO image I used was ahead of the repos (but the packages were in 
updates-testing) and an xorg package that had gone in F22 and needed to be 
removed.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 05/23/2015 11:58 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> if you're talking about f22, your issues are likely due to updates-testing 
> repo recently becoming disabled by default.
>
> Either re-enable it or run: dnf distro-sync
>  
I also just noticed I now have 2 menu items under System-Administration.
1. Yumex, and Yumex (dnf)
first time I clicked on Yumex (dnf) it crashed.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 10:58 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> […]
> 
> if you're talking about f22, your issues are likely due to updates
> -testing 
> repo recently becoming disabled by default.
> 
> Either re-enable it or run: dnf distro-sync

I am on Rawhide, but perhaps the same has happened there.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Joerg Lechner
HI;
I installed Yumex for dnf.
Kind Regards


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I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum
:-)

However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
assume
due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
out what the
dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
with dnf. The dnf help
is either not being helpful or I am just
missing the relevant bit.

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 05/23/2015 05:33 PM, Russel Winder wrote:

I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)

However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
missing the relevant bit.



You are likely facing the consequences of the dnf's changes having been 
discussed in


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-April/209697.html
ff.

I had been facing this issue myself and consider this dnf behavior 
change to be such kind of harmful and silly, I feel to decision to use 
dnf on fc22 should be reverted.


Ralf

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Re: dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Rex Dieter
Russel Winder wrote:

> I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)
> 
> However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
> assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
> out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
> with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
> missing the relevant bit.

if you're talking about f22, your issues are likely due to updates-testing 
repo recently becoming disabled by default.

Either re-enable it or run: dnf distro-sync

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dnf vs yum

2015-05-23 Thread Russel Winder
I switched from yum to dnf, and now have managed to stop typing yum :-)

However, I have a collection of packages that are not upgrading, I
assume due to dependencies not being satisfied. With Yum I could find
out what the dependencies were, but I do not see a way of doing this
with dnf. The dnf help is either not being helpful or I am just
missing the relevant bit.

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Re: DNF vs yum performance question

2014-06-15 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Bob Lightfoot  wrote:

> Dear Team:
>When running dnf check-update --refresh and comparing to yum
> check-update I've noticed that if the same package occurs in multiple
> repos {aka. local and remote repos for example} that dnf will list all
> packages while yum will list only the package from the repo which
> would be used for update.  I'm not sure if this is as desired in dnf
> or just plain cornfusing.  Just wanted to point out this is one more
> ideosyncrosity of dnf.
>

dnf check-update lists available updates from the enabled repositories, and
if the same update is available from multiple repos it will be shown twice

check-update is not the same as the resulting transaction of a dnf update.

I does exactly what the man page says it does

http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/command_ref.html#check-update-command

and please if your think something is a bug, then make a bugzilla repost,
fdl is not a bugtracker.

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DNF vs yum performance question

2014-06-15 Thread Bob Lightfoot
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Dear Team:
   When running dnf check-update --refresh and comparing to yum
check-update I've noticed that if the same package occurs in multiple
repos {aka. local and remote repos for example} that dnf will list all
packages while yum will list only the package from the repo which
would be used for update.  I'm not sure if this is as desired in dnf
or just plain cornfusing.  Just wanted to point out this is one more
ideosyncrosity of dnf.

Sincerely,
Bob Lightfoot
Long Live Yum - LLY
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DNF vs yum performance question

2014-06-15 Thread Bob Lightfoot
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Dear Team:
   When running dnf check-update --refresh and comparing to yum
check-update I've noticed that if the same package occurs in multiple
repos {aka. local and remote repos for example} that dnf will list all
packages while yum will list only the package from the repo which
would be used for update.  I'm not sure if this is as desired in dnf
or just plain cornfusing.  Just wanted to point out this is one more
ideosyncrosity of dnf.

Sincerely,
Bob Lightfoot
Long Live Yum - LLY
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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-13 Thread nonamedotc

On 11/12/2013 08:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

HI


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM, nonamedotc wrote:

If that's true - it might be a tad inconvenient?


File a bug report against dnf noting the difference and you will get an
authoritative answer as to whether it is a bug or a intended design

Rahul




Done! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1029948
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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM, nonamedotc wrote:

> If that's true - it might be a tad inconvenient?
>

File a bug report against dnf noting the difference and you will get an
authoritative answer as to whether it is a bug or a intended design

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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread nonamedotc

On 11/12/2013 04:30 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

nonamedotc (nonamed...@fedoraproject.org) said:

dnf and yum are showing different information for the command
{dnf/yum} groups list.

Particularly, not all the DE/WM seem to be listed in dnf output but
it is listed in yum. I am just wondering if this is a bug or if it's
intentional. I would much appreciate it if someone can point me to
relevant documentation.


yum treats 'environments' as groups that can be selected. It appears DNF
does not.

Bill



If that's true - it might be a tad inconvenient?
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Re: dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
nonamedotc (nonamed...@fedoraproject.org) said: 
> dnf and yum are showing different information for the command
> {dnf/yum} groups list.
> 
> Particularly, not all the DE/WM seem to be listed in dnf output but
> it is listed in yum. I am just wondering if this is a bug or if it's
> intentional. I would much appreciate it if someone can point me to
> relevant documentation.

yum treats 'environments' as groups that can be selected. It appears DNF
does not.

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dnf vs yum groups information

2013-11-12 Thread nonamedotc
dnf and yum are showing different information for the command {dnf/yum} 
groups list.


Particularly, not all the DE/WM seem to be listed in dnf output but it 
is listed in yum. I am just wondering if this is a bug or if it's 
intentional. I would much appreciate it if someone can point me to 
relevant documentation.


Thanks!

# rpm -qa dnf
dnf-0.4.7-1.fc20.noarch


Here is what I get

# dnf groups list
Installed Groups:
   LibreOffice
   Editors
   Electronic Lab
   Milkymist
   Network Servers
   Office/Productivity
   Security Lab
   Text-based Internet
   Graphical Internet
   Sound and Video
   Hardware Support
   System Tools
   Fonts
   Design Suite
   Development Tools
Available Groups:
   Fedora Eclipse
   FreeIPA Server
   Educational Software
   Engineering and Scientific
   Medical Applications
   Robotics
   Window Managers
   3D Printing
   GNOME Desktop Environment
   KDE (K Desktop Environment)
   Games and Entertainment
   Administration Tools
   Authoring and Publishing
   Books and Guides
   Cloud Infrastructure
   RPM Development Tools
   C Development Tools and Libraries

==

# yum groups list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit, remove-with-leaves
Available environment groups:
   GNOME Desktop
   KDE Plasma Workspaces
   Xfce Desktop
   LXDE Desktop
   Cinnamon Desktop
   MATE Desktop
   Sugar Desktop Environment
   Development and Creative Workstation
   Web Server
   Infrastructure Server
   Basic Desktop
   Minimal Install
Available Groups:
   3D Printing
   Administration Tools
   Authoring and Publishing
   Books and Guides
   C Development Tools and Libraries
   Cloud Infrastructure
   Design Suite
   Development Tools
   Editors
   Educational Software
   Electronic Lab
   Engineering and Scientific
   Fedora Eclipse
   FreeIPA Server
   Games and Entertainment
   LibreOffice
   Medical Applications
   Milkymist
   Network Servers
   Office/Productivity
   RPM Development Tools
   Robotics
   Security Lab
   Sound and Video
   System Tools
   Text-based Internet
   Window Managers

==

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