Re: fedup f19-f20 success (sort of)

2013-12-17 Thread Neal Becker
Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 16:45 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:59:20AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 14:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>> > > After reboot into fedup, it
>> > > gave *no indication at all* that it was doing anything.  I was sure it
>> > > was hosed, 
>> > 
>> > It should show a graphical bootsplash with a progress bar on tty1, and
>> > if you hit esc, a text boot screen with more detailed info.
>> 
>> I run into an experience similar to Neal's when trying a f17->f19 fedup
>> upgrade.  A splash screen, no progress bar of any kind, no reaction to
>> whatever one is trying on a keyboard.  A drive light was flickering from
>> time to time, though, so I left it sit for a looong time before
>> eventually rebooting with a help of a power switch.  From a timestamp
>> on a new initramfs it was good that I was really patient. :-)  An automatic
>> reboot was supposed to happen according to logs but reality was
>> different.
> 
> F17's fedup was much more primitive code, the progress stuff wasn't
> implemented till later.
> 
>> OTOH the whole upgrade was eventually performed and this was still
>> a "very early fedup" (but run actually so late that results were likely
>> not that interesting) so I did not bother anybody with this mixed
>> impressions.
>> 
>> > sounds like somehow that didn't work for you?
>> 
>> Difficult to say what as afterwards everything looked "normal".
>> 
>>Michal
> 

There was a graphical bootsplash with a progress bar - but it appearted to be 
frozen for a very long time.

Hit esc and a text boot screen was there, but appeared to be frozen for a very 
long time.  Sure looked like it was just stuck.

The drive light did not flicker as long as I was looking.  I guess it 
eventually 
did something once I walked away and went to lunch, because when I came back
f20 was booted up just fine.

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Re: fedup f19-f20 success (sort of)

2013-12-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 16:45 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:59:20AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 14:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> > > After reboot into fedup, it 
> > > gave *no indication at all* that it was doing anything.  I was sure it 
> > > was 
> > > hosed, 
> > 
> > It should show a graphical bootsplash with a progress bar on tty1, and
> > if you hit esc, a text boot screen with more detailed info.
> 
> I run into an experience similar to Neal's when trying a f17->f19 fedup
> upgrade.  A splash screen, no progress bar of any kind, no reaction to
> whatever one is trying on a keyboard.  A drive light was flickering from
> time to time, though, so I left it sit for a looong time before
> eventually rebooting with a help of a power switch.  From a timestamp
> on a new initramfs it was good that I was really patient. :-)  An automatic
> reboot was supposed to happen according to logs but reality was
> different.

F17's fedup was much more primitive code, the progress stuff wasn't
implemented till later.

> OTOH the whole upgrade was eventually performed and this was still
> a "very early fedup" (but run actually so late that results were likely
> not that interesting) so I did not bother anybody with this mixed
> impressions.
> 
> > sounds like somehow that didn't work for you?
> 
> Difficult to say what as afterwards everything looked "normal".
> 
>Michal

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Re: fedup f19-f20 success (sort of)

2013-12-17 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:59:20AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 14:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> > After reboot into fedup, it 
> > gave *no indication at all* that it was doing anything.  I was sure it was 
> > hosed, 
> 
> It should show a graphical bootsplash with a progress bar on tty1, and
> if you hit esc, a text boot screen with more detailed info.

I run into an experience similar to Neal's when trying a f17->f19 fedup
upgrade.  A splash screen, no progress bar of any kind, no reaction to
whatever one is trying on a keyboard.  A drive light was flickering from
time to time, though, so I left it sit for a looong time before
eventually rebooting with a help of a power switch.  From a timestamp
on a new initramfs it was good that I was really patient. :-)  An automatic
reboot was supposed to happen according to logs but reality was
different.

OTOH the whole upgrade was eventually performed and this was still
a "very early fedup" (but run actually so late that results were likely
not that interesting) so I did not bother anybody with this mixed
impressions.

> sounds like somehow that didn't work for you?

Difficult to say what as afterwards everything looked "normal".

   Michal
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Re: fedup f19-f20 success (sort of)

2013-12-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 14:07 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> It did succeed.  But I thought it wasn't going to.  After reboot into fedup, 
> it 
> gave *no indication at all* that it was doing anything.  I was sure it was 
> hosed, but left and went to lunch.  No visual indication anything was 
> happening,
> no flickering of the disk activity light.  I switched consoles and all I saw 
> no 
> updates to any messages.  I don't know how (or if it's even possible) to 
> switch 
> to a console and run top to see what is happening.
> 
> Not a good user experience.

It should show a graphical bootsplash with a progress bar on tty1, and
if you hit esc, a text boot screen with more detailed info. did for me,
in testing. sounds like somehow that didn't work for you?
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fedup f19-f20 success (sort of)

2013-12-17 Thread Neal Becker
It did succeed.  But I thought it wasn't going to.  After reboot into fedup, it 
gave *no indication at all* that it was doing anything.  I was sure it was 
hosed, but left and went to lunch.  No visual indication anything was happening,
no flickering of the disk activity light.  I switched consoles and all I saw no 
updates to any messages.  I don't know how (or if it's even possible) to switch 
to a console and run top to see what is happening.

Not a good user experience.

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