Re: gtk3-3.5.2-1 ???

2012-06-07 Thread Kalev Lember
On 06/08/2012 12:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 Well, what do you mean by 'use it', exactly? F17 has GTK+ 3.4. 3.5 is a
 new major version - it's not API/ABI compatible. If you were going to
 backport it to F17 you'd have to either install it alongside 3.4 - in
 which case you would not, in practice, be 'using it', it'd just be
 sitting there - or recompile all (or at least some) of the GTK+ apps you
 run against 3.5. That's a major undertaking and would leave you with a
 system that was rather diverged from F17.

Not true. GTK+ 3.5 is API/ABI compatible with earlier GTK+ 3.x releases.
This means that an app compiled with GTK+ 3.0 or 3.2 or 3.4 will
continue to work with GTK+ 3.5. Barring any bugs, of course.

Also, GTK+ 3.x releases are not parallel installable, so installing the
gtk3-3.5.2 package would replace the gtk3-3.4.3 package that's in F17.

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Re: gtk3-3.5.2-1 ???

2012-06-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 01:55 +0300, Kalev Lember wrote:
 On 06/08/2012 12:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  Well, what do you mean by 'use it', exactly? F17 has GTK+ 3.4. 3.5 is a
  new major version - it's not API/ABI compatible. If you were going to
  backport it to F17 you'd have to either install it alongside 3.4 - in
  which case you would not, in practice, be 'using it', it'd just be
  sitting there - or recompile all (or at least some) of the GTK+ apps you
  run against 3.5. That's a major undertaking and would leave you with a
  system that was rather diverged from F17.
 
 Not true. GTK+ 3.5 is API/ABI compatible with earlier GTK+ 3.x releases.
 This means that an app compiled with GTK+ 3.0 or 3.2 or 3.4 will
 continue to work with GTK+ 3.5. Barring any bugs, of course.
 
 Also, GTK+ 3.x releases are not parallel installable, so installing the
 gtk3-3.5.2 package would replace the gtk3-3.4.3 package that's in F17.

Sorry, my bad. I assumed there was a bump, I should've checked.

It still doesn't sound like a terribly good idea, though.
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Re: gtk3-3.5.2-1.fc18?

2012-06-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 23:12 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
 Greetings:
 
 Would it a bad idea, to download this and re-compile it for fc17???

Um. Probably, yes. Why would you want to do that?
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Re: gtk3-3.5.2-1 ???

2012-06-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Rob Healey wrote:
 
 The only reason why, would be to use it now rather than having to wait
 for FC18 to stabilize a little more first.  If this is such a bad
 idea, then I will wait for rawhide?

GTK 3.5 is an unstable branch. There's a reason why the package
maintainer does what he does. I would recommend that you stick with the
F17 packages unless you have a legitimate reason (and judging from your
two e-mails you do not) not to.
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