Re: update some testcases(2)

2013-01-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 01:16 -0500, Lili Nie wrote:
 Thanks a lot Kamil and Adam for their comments.
   Welcome more comments and as soon as we have a decision
on the changes,the wiki-page will be updated.

You don't necessarily need a 'decision' - the convention is that you
propose your changes, then if you get any feedback, deal with the
feedback, then keep doing that cycle until one of two things happen:

1) you get all 'positive' feedback, no suggested changes
2) you stop getting any feedback at all

if you propose a change and don't get any feedback on it within a couple
of weeks, and you're pretty sure it's a sensible change, it's fine to
just go ahead and do it. 'No complaints' counts as 'approval'. :) It's
always a wiki, things can always be changed if someone comes along and
sees a problem later. If you propose something and no-one goes 'no!
that's terrible!' within two weeks, it's a pretty good indication your
change at least isn't just completely terrible.
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Re: update some testcases(2)

2013-01-10 Thread Tao Wu
Thanks for lnie's updates, if you have any suggestions, just let us known
as soon as possible. Any comment is welcomed!

Thanks!

On 13-01-10 01:52, Lili Nie wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have taken part in the improve the test wiki pageproposed by Tao Wu.
 As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the test wiki 
 pageseem to be inapplicable.
 I suggest to modify some of them, as the following:
 
  
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted
 you can encrypt the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk
 or encrypt part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning 
 your disk
 Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults
 After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to 
 ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning
 Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a 
 passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map 
 
  
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
 Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults,
 and make sure the existing partitions are not modified
 As in the text mode, you should choose option of using the free space for 
 the Autopartitioning Options
  Expected Results
 The system should install successfully
 After install, the system initiates boot properly 
 The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only 
 into the previously free space.
 
 [[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]:
 Click into Installation Destination, select Continue
 select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead for 
 INSTALLATION OPTIONS
 select Continue to custom the partition 
 
   Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda 
 partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
 At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by 
 anaconda, and proceed with installation.
 Complete the installation
 
Testcase:: 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda 
 partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
 At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an 
 ext3 formatted partition,and proceed with installation
 Complete the installation
 
   
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen,[[QA:Anaconda 
 partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
 At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs 
 formatted partition,and proceed with installation
 Complete the installation
  
   Testcase:: 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda 
 partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
 At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an 
 ext4 formatted partition,and proceed with installation
 Complete the installation
 
Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision
on the changes, I will update the wiki-page.
 
   Thank you,
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update some testcases(2)

2013-01-09 Thread Lili Nie

Hi all,

I have taken part in the improve the test wiki pageproposed by Tao Wu.
As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the test wiki pageseem 
to be inapplicable.
I suggest to modify some of them, as the following:

 
Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install
 How to test
Boot the installer using any available means
Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted
you can encrypt the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk
or encrypt part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning 
your disk
Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults
After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to ensure 
the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning
Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a 
passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map 

 
Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
 How to test
Boot the installer using any available means
Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
Continue installation with choosing all provided defaults,
and make sure the existing partitions are not modified
As in the text mode, you should choose option of using the free space for 
the Autopartitioning Options
 Expected Results
The system should install successfully
After install, the system initiates boot properly 
The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only 
into the previously free space.

[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]:
Click into Installation Destination, select Continue
select Let me custom the partitioning of the disk instead for INSTALLATION 
OPTIONS
select Continue to custom the partition 

  Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap
How to test
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda 
partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by 
anaconda, and proceed with installation.
Complete the installation

   Testcase:: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition
How to test
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda 
partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 
formatted partition,and proceed with installation
Complete the installation

  
Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen,[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#custom|custom 
partitioning mode]]
At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs 
formatted partition,and proceed with installation
Complete the installation
 
  Testcase:: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
In the INSTALLATION SUMMARY screen, [[QA:Anaconda 
partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]]
At the manual partitioning screen, place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 
formatted partition,and proceed with installation
Complete the installation

   Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision
   on the changes, I will update the wiki-page.

  Thank you,
  Lili Nie
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Re: update some testcases

2013-01-08 Thread Kamil Paral
 I think we should create a separate wiki page QA:Anaconda
 partitioning, that explains the differences between the guided
 partitioning and custom partitioning, and also between
 autopart and manual partitioning. Ideally with screenshots.
 Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the
 disk using method A or B (or any of them). In this case, I think
 we only mandate autopart, nothing else.
Hi Kamil,
I feel a little confused,inguided partitioning mode,we doauto
partitiong,incustom partitioning mode,we domanual
partitiong,
actually,there is no guided partitioning mode orcustom
partitioning mode,we do default install then we can
call itguided partitiong mode if we change something,we can say
it incustom partitiong mode, As for auto
partitioning,we only need to clickcontinue.Am I right?

Guided mode is the screen where you can only preserve or delete partitions, 
nothing else. Custom mode is the screen where you can set up the partitions to 
your will.

Automatic partitioning (autopart) is an approach of letting Anaconda create 
the partition setup automatically for you. It is used in guided mode and _can_ 
be used in custom mode (by clicking the blue text Create partition layout 
automatically). Manual partitioning is the approach of doing everything by 
yourself, basically it is a custom mode without using autopart.

I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe 
different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment on 
terminology?


 In the original text there is also:
 #  Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and
 entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an
 English keyboard map
 Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on
 repeat-several-times test cases. We can explicitly say the
 password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up
 to people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same
 result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.
 
  For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not
  highlightselecting a non-English keyboard map,we QA may tends to
  use English keyboard map only.
  for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English
  install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying.

If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should be free 
to do it as they see fit. We might set up some testing introduction page and 
describe these principles. But I agree with you, in order to encourage using 
different keymaps, we can explicitly say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an English keymap.

 
 
  Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
  How to test
  Boot the installer using any available means
  Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
  Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation,
  choosing
  all provided defaults
  As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the
  Autopartitioning Options
 
 This test case is a bit unclear that only the free space should be
 used. I think this would do:
 
 # Install Fedora into the existing free space, without modifying the
 existing partitions. That should be the default behavior of
 graphical installer when you select the target disk and follow the
 default choices. In text mode, there is a special option for using
 the free space.
 
 For this,we can add one sentence:
 How to test
Boot the installer using any available means
Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing
all provided defaults,
and make sure the existing partitions are not modified
As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the
Autopartitioning Options

Yes, that's basically the same. I prefer to not quote the button labels 
(option for using the free space instead of choose 'use free space').


 Thanks for your work. When you're at it, could you please try to
 create the QA:Anaconda partitioning wiki page with a few
 screenshots and a short description what guided partitioning
 mode, custom partitioning mode, auto partitioning, and manual
 partitioning are? I believe that would be very useful for lots of
 our test cases. Then we can update some of them with links as
 proposed above.
 
  
Thanks a lot for your comments .But,er..it seems that there is no
need to take sreenshot,as the anaconda's explanation is clear
enough.

I imagine a page with a screenshot of guided mode screen, and a screenshot of 
custom mode screen. It would be used to illustrate what is the guided mode and 
what is the custom mode. There doesn't need to be a lot of description, just 
saying this is the guided mode and this is the custom mode is enough. We 
can then link the page, people will have a 

Re: update some testcases

2013-01-08 Thread Lili Nie


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From: Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com
To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:02:22 AM
Subject: Re: update some testcases

I think we should create a separate wiki page QA:Anaconda
partitioning, that explains the differences between the guided
partitioning and custom partitioning, and also between
autopart and manual partitioning. Ideally with screenshots.
Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the
disk using method A or B (or any of them). In this case, I think
 we only mandate autopart, nothing else.
Hi Kamil,
   I feel a little confused,inguided partitioning mode,we doauto
partitiong,incustom partitioning mode,we domanual
partitiong,
actually,there is no guided partitioning mode orcustom
partitioning mode,we do default install then we can
call itguided partitiong mode if we change something,we can say
it incustom partitiong mode, As for auto
partitioning,we only need to clickcontinue.Am I right?

Guided mode is the screen where you can only preserve or delete partitions, 
nothing else. Custom mode is the screen where you can set up the partitions to 
your will.

Automatic partitioning (autopart) is an approach of letting Anaconda create 
the partition setup automatically for you. It is used in guided mode 
and _can_ be used in custom mode (by clicking the blue text Create partition 
layout automatically).
 Manual partitioning is the approach of doing everything by yourself, 
 basically it is a custom mode without using autopart.
I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe 
different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment on 
terminology?
Hi Kamil,
   I still feel confused about this.In my mind,we can change mode during one 
install.ie,if we changed sth we are in so called custom mode,after that, if we 
click the blue text
Create partition layout automatically we are in Guided mode then.We can also 
change the mode to custom mode by changing sth after we are in Guided mode.

If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should be free 
to do it as they see fit. We might set up some testing introduction page and 
describe these principles. But I agree with you, in order to encourage using 
different keymaps, we can explicitly say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an English 
keymap.

 However,if we say the password_might not_be set using an English keymap, 
people will using a non-English keymap.Then the English one will not be tested.

Yes, that's basically the same. I prefer to not quote the button labels 
(option for using the free space instead of choose 'use free space').
 
 yeah,that's better.


 Thanks for your work. When you're at it, could you please try to
 create the QA:Anaconda partitioning wiki page with a few
 screenshots and a short description what guided partitioning
 mode, custom partitioning mode, auto partitioning, and manual
 partitioning are? I believe that would be very useful for lots of
 our test cases. Then we can update some of them with links as
 proposed above.
 
  
Thanks a lot for your comments .But,er..it seems that there is no
need to take sreenshot,as the anaconda's explanation is clear
enough.

I imagine a page with a screenshot of guided mode screen, and a screenshot of 
custom mode screen. It would be used to illustrate what is the guided mode and 
what is the custom mode. There doesn't need to be a lot of description, just 
saying this is the guided mode and this is the custom mode is enough. We 
can then link the page, people will have a look at it and in 10 seconds they 
will understand which parts of anaconda they should work with to verify the 
test case.
 Actually,what I concerned is that,there are so many guided mode screen and 
custome mode screen during one install,what's more, that's what people can see 
immediately they click the  button.

Thanks for working on this.
 It's my pleasure.Actually,it's what I should do:)
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Re: update some testcases

2013-01-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:02 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
  I think we should create a separate wiki page QA:Anaconda
  partitioning, that explains the differences between the guided
  partitioning and custom partitioning, and also between
  autopart and manual partitioning. Ideally with screenshots.
  Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to encrypt the
  disk using method A or B (or any of them). In this case, I think
  we only mandate autopart, nothing else.
 Hi Kamil,
 I feel a little confused,inguided partitioning mode,we doauto
 partitiong,incustom partitioning mode,we domanual
 partitiong,
 actually,there is no guided partitioning mode orcustom
 partitioning mode,we do default install then we can
 call itguided partitiong mode if we change something,we can say
 it incustom partitiong mode, As for auto
 partitioning,we only need to clickcontinue.Am I right?
 
 Guided mode is the screen where you can only preserve or delete
 partitions, nothing else. Custom mode is the screen where you can set
 up the partitions to your will.
 
 Automatic partitioning (autopart) is an approach of letting Anaconda
 create the partition setup automatically for you. It is used in guided
 mode and _can_ be used in custom mode (by clicking the blue text
 Create partition layout automatically). Manual partitioning is the
 approach of doing everything by yourself, basically it is a custom
 mode without using autopart.
 
 I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe
 different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment
 on terminology?

That's how I've been doing it so far. It feels like we could somehow
come up with better names, but no-one has yet :)

The dialog which pops up after you select disks for installation - and
either says 'You have enough space, you're all set!' or 'You don't have
enough space, you need to free some up!' - is the branch point for
'Guided' vs. 'Custom' install. Both versions of that dialog have a
checkbox whose label says something about 'Customize the layout'. If you
check that checkbox and then proceed from the dialog, you are now in the
'custom partitioning' flow. If you leave the checkbox unchecked and
proceed from the dialog, you are now in the 'guided partitioning' flow.
If you had enough space, and you don't check the box, then you are now
done with partitioning, there is no further screen in the flow - but we
still refer to it as the 'guided partitioning' flow.

As kparal says, the 'autopart' algorithm can actually be invoked from
each path. 'Guided partitioning' always uses the 'autopart' algorithm to
actually create the final partition layout. In 'custom partitioning' you
can choose to use it, by clicking the 'Create partition layout
automatically' text Kamil mentioned. Or you can choose not to use it,
and to actually create each partition manually. I probably wouldn't want
to try and use the term 'manual partitioning' to mean 'custom
partitioning without using the 'autopart' link', that seems
unnecessarily confusing - really, 'custom partitioning' is still 'custom
partitioning' whether you clicked the 'autopart' link or not.

 
  In the original text there is also:
  #  Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and
  entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an
  English keyboard map
  Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on
  repeat-several-times test cases. We can explicitly say the
  password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up
  to people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same
  result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.
  
   For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not
   highlightselecting a non-English keyboard map,we QA may tends to
   use English keyboard map only.
   for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English
   install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying.
 
 If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should
 be free to do it as they see fit. We might set up some testing
 introduction page and describe these principles. But I agree with
 you, in order to encourage using different keymaps, we can explicitly
 say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
 We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an
 English keymap.

So the reason this case is as it is right now is that when the issue of
keymap problems first came up, I considered writing separate 'keymap'
test cases, but it seemed a bit artificial: the 'non-US keymap encrypted
partitioning test case' would have been a copy/paste of the encryption
test case, but with 'use a non-US keymap' added. Seemed a bit silly, and
it didn't seem that hard just to add it into the existing test case.
While you're testing encryption, you may as well make sure it works with
a non-US keymap too. The reason for saying to run the test twice, once
with a US keymap and once 

Re: update some testcases

2013-01-08 Thread John . Florian
 From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com
 Sure, but then you've just switched modes. The decisions you made on the
 Guided path are wiped out. This could be made clearer in the UI, though
 - I've seen several users report that they expected to be able to, say,
 delete partitions in Guided mode, then create them in Custom mode.

I did that just today with my desktop machine.  I wanted to leverage the 
Guided feature for most of the setup, but needed to rm the home partition 
since I have that via NFS.

To me the existing naming seemed fairly clear.  In a Guided mode, I expect 
to have the way led for me, but I should be allowed to deviate.  With a 
Manual mode I expect to lead the way, but also be offered tools to make 
that easier.  I guess I didn't think of it so much as modes though, as 
much of a initial question of how much assistance was I going to require.

PS.  I may have all the names horfed up here.  I've only used the new 
anaconda this once.  I've installed F18 hundreds of times already, but 
always via kickstarts ala livecd-tools.
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Re: update some testcases

2013-01-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 15:49 -0500, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
  From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com 
  Sure, but then you've just switched modes. The decisions you made on
 the
  Guided path are wiped out. This could be made clearer in the UI,
 though
  - I've seen several users report that they expected to be able to,
 say,
  delete partitions in Guided mode, then create them in Custom mode.
 
 I did that just today with my desktop machine.  I wanted to leverage
 the Guided feature for most of the setup, but needed to rm the home
 partition since I have that via NFS. 
 
 To me the existing naming seemed fairly clear.  In a Guided mode, I
 expect to have the way led for me, but I should be allowed to
 deviate.  With a Manual mode I expect to lead the way, but also be
 offered tools to make that easier.  I guess I didn't think of it so
 much as modes though, as much of a initial question of how much
 assistance was I going to require. 

Thinking of it as 'modes' is more kind of a tool for debugging / QA, so
far as the 'UI experience' goes, it is actually meant to 'look' more the
way you thought of it ('how much assistance am I going to require'). But
for QA / dev purposes, it's most helpful to keep a sort of mental map of
all the possible workflows / modes in anaconda, and understand that the
whole partitioning step is kind of a mini-wizard mode with two major
branches ('guided' and 'custom').
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Re: update some testcases

2013-01-08 Thread Lili Nie


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Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:22:18 PM
Subject: Re: update some testcases

On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:02 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:

 
 I'm using the terms in the sense I see them most often used. But maybe
 different terms could be less confusing. Adam, do you want to comment
 on terminology?

That's how I've been doing it so far. It feels like we could somehow
come up with better names, but no-one has yet :)

The dialog which pops up after you select disks for installation - and
either says 'You have enough space, you're all set!' or 'You don't have
enough space, you need to free some up!' - is the branch point for
'Guided' vs. 'Custom' install. Both versions of that dialog have a
checkbox whose label says something about 'Customize the layout'. If you
check that checkbox and then proceed from the dialog, you are now in the
'custom partitioning' flow. If you leave the checkbox unchecked and
proceed from the dialog, you are now in the 'guided partitioning' flow.
If you had enough space, and you don't check the box, then you are now
done with partitioning, there is no further screen in the flow - but we
still refer to it as the 'guided partitioning' flow.

As kparal says, the 'autopart' algorithm can actually be invoked from
each path. 'Guided partitioning' always uses the 'autopart' algorithm to
actually create the final partition layout. In 'custom partitioning' you
can choose to use it, by clicking the 'Create partition layout
automatically' text Kamil mentioned. Or you can choose not to use it,
and to actually create each partition manually. I probably wouldn't want
to try and use the term 'manual partitioning' to mean 'custom
partitioning without using the 'autopart' link', that seems
unnecessarily confusing - really, 'custom partitioning' is still 'custom
partitioning' whether you clicked the 'autopart' link or not.
Hi Adam,the custom mode and the autopart mode is clear enough for me .What 
confused me is 
that I thought we are in autopart mode as long as we change nothing and just do 
default things,
we are in custom mode the moment we change sth.That's why I say we can change 
mode for several 
times during one install. 
No, that's still custom mode. As long as you're in the custom dialog,you're in 
custom mode.
The 'Create partition layout automatically'function is just a little 
helper.make it clear 
at once,and I don't feel confused now:)thanks for your comment.
 

 
  In the original text there is also:
  #  Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and
  entering a passphrase which would not be input the same on an
  English keyboard map
  Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on
  repeat-several-times test cases. We can explicitly say the
  password _might not_ be set using an English keymap. It's then up
  to people to choose. In several test runs we will receive the same
  result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.
  
   For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not
   highlightselecting a non-English keyboard map,we QA may tends to
   use English keyboard map only.
   for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English
   install for all the testcases,if there is no special saying.
 
 If something is not explicitly stated in the test case, people should
 be free to do it as they see fit. We might set up some testing
 introduction page and describe these principles. But I agree with
 you, in order to encourage using different keymaps, we can explicitly
 say it's allowed. That's why I proposed:
 We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an
 English keymap.

So the reason this case is as it is right now is that when the issue of
keymap problems first came up, I considered writing separate 'keymap'
test cases, but it seemed a bit artificial: the 'non-US keymap encrypted
partitioning test case' would have been a copy/paste of the encryption
test case, but with 'use a non-US keymap' added. Seemed a bit silly, and
it didn't seem that hard just to add it into the existing test case.
While you're testing encryption, you may as well make sure it works with
a non-US keymap too. The reason for saying to run the test twice, once
with a US keymap and once without, is to make it easier to tell whether
a failure is due to the use of a non-US keymap or not: if you just use a
non-US keymap, and you get a failure, it's hard to know whether it's a
general failure, or because you're using a non-US keymap. If you run the
test twice, it should make it relatively clear what causes any failure.
There are more efficient ways of doing things, but they're harder to
explain in a test case.
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Re: update some testcases

2013-01-04 Thread Lili Nie


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From: Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com
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Subject: Re: update some testcases

 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted
 you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your
 disk
 or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom
 partitioning your disk

The sentence above is the only change I see from the original text (please 
note the correct word is to encrypt).

I think we should create a separate wiki page QA:Anaconda partitioning, that 
explains the differences between the guided partitioning and custom 
partitioning, and also between autopart and manual partitioning. Ideally 
with screenshots. Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to 
encrypt the disk using method A or B (or any of them). In this case, I think 
we only mandate autopart, nothing else.
   Hi Kamil,
   I feel a little confused,inguided partitioning mode,we doauto 
partitiong,incustom partitioning mode,we domanual partitiong,
   actually,there is no guided partitioning mode orcustom partitioning 
mode,we do default install then we can
   call itguided partitiong mode if we change something,we can say it 
incustom partitiong mode, As for auto 
   partitioning,we only need to clickcontinue.Am I right? 

 Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing
 all provided defaults
 After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup
 to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the
 encrypted partitioning

In the original text there is also:
#  Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a 
passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map 
Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on repeat-several-times 
test cases. We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an 
English keymap. It's then up to people to choose. In several test runs we 
will receive the same result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.

 For this one ,I'm a little disagree with you.If we do not highlightselecting 
a non-English keyboard map,we QA may tends to use English keyboard map only.
 for example,I am an Chinese,but I would just do the default English install 
for all the testcases,if there is no special saying. 


   Testcase::
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso,
 PXE, or DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue

Instead of updating these instructions in every test case for every anaconda 
string change, this should link to QA:Anaconda partitioning. That would be 
just a single page to keep updated. Then we can provide generic instructions:

# In the partitioning screen, enter the [[QA:Anaconda 
partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] and have the installer set up a 
[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#autopart|default partitioning layout]].
# Remove swap partition from the default layout.
# Proceed with installation.

I think it's a good suggestion,and I will try to modify the testcases in this 
way 


 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
 Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing
 all provided defaults
 As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the
 Autopartitioning Options

This test case is a bit unclear that only the free space should be used. I 
think this would do:

# Install Fedora into the existing free space, without modifying the existing 
partitions. That should be the default behavior of graphical installer when 
you select the target disk and follow the default choices. In text mode, 
there is a special option for using the free space.

For this,we can add one sentence:
How to test
   Boot the installer using any available means
   Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
   Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all 
provided defaults,
   and make sure the existing partitions are not modified 
   As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the 
Autopartitioning Options

And we should have one more expected result:

# The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only into 
the previously free space.

Yeah,we should add this into the expected result

Testcase::

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition

Re: update some testcases

2013-01-03 Thread Kamil Paral
  
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted
 you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your
 disk
 or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom
 partitioning your disk

The sentence above is the only change I see from the original text (please note 
the correct word is to encrypt).

I think we should create a separate wiki page QA:Anaconda partitioning, that 
explains the differences between the guided partitioning and custom 
partitioning, and also between autopart and manual partitioning. Ideally 
with screenshots. Then we can link that page and simply ask the tester to 
encrypt the disk using method A or B (or any of them). In this case, I think we 
only mandate autopart, nothing else.

 Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing
 all provided defaults
 After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup
 to ensure the installed system boots correctly with the
 encrypted partitioning

In the original text there is also:
#  Repeat the test, selecting a non-English keyboard map and entering a 
passphrase which would not be input the same on an English keyboard map 
Personally I would erase this one, I'm not a fan on repeat-several-times test 
cases. We can explicitly say the password _might not_ be set using an English 
keymap. It's then up to people to choose. In several test runs we will receive 
the same result (multiple keymaps tested) with less time invested.

 
  
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
 Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing
 all provided defaults
 As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the
 Autopartitioning Options

This test case is a bit unclear that only the free space should be used. I 
think this would do:

# Install Fedora into the existing free space, without modifying the existing 
partitions. That should be the default behavior of graphical installer when you 
select the target disk and follow the default choices. In text mode, there is a 
special option for using the free space.

And we should have one more expected result:

# The existing partitions were not modified, the system is installed only into 
the previously free space.

 
   Testcase::
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso,
 PXE, or DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue

Instead of updating these instructions in every test case for every anaconda 
string change, this should link to QA:Anaconda partitioning. That would be 
just a single page to keep updated. Then we can provide generic instructions:

# In the partitioning screen, enter the [[QA:Anaconda 
partitioning#custom|custom partitioning mode]] and have the installer set up a 
[[QA:Anaconda partitioning#autopart|default partitioning layout]].
# Remove swap partition from the default layout.
# Proceed with installation.

Testcase::

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso,
 PXE, or DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue
 At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click
 Customize
 Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and
 select Finish Partitioning
 Complete the installation

Similar to above. Again, let's try to keep the instructions generic if the 
functionality is obvious. There is no need to say click Customize. We can 
simply say change the root (/) file system to ext3. If some one is unable to 
figure out the approach, he/she won't be able to fill in bugzilla report 
anyway. We don't target complete Linux newbies here.

 
   
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso,
 PXE, or DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue
 At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click
 Customize
 Place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and
 select Finish Partitioning
 Complete the installation

Same as above.

  
   Testcase::
   
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition
  Boot the installer using 

update some testcases

2012-12-28 Thread Lili Nie
Hi all,

I have taken part in the improve the test wiki pageproposed by Tao Wu.
As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the test wiki pageseem 
to be inapplicable.
I suggest to modify some of them, as the following:

 
Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install
 How to test
Boot the installer using any available means
Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted
you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk
or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom partitioning 
your disk
Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all 
provided defaults
After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to ensure 
the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning

 
Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
 How to test
Boot the installer using any available means
Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all 
provided defaults
As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the 
Autopartitioning Options
Complete the installation

  Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap
How to test
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning 
of the disk instead,select Continue
At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by 
anaconda, and select Finish Partitioning
Complete the installation

   Testcase:: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition
How to test
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning 
of the disk instead,select Continue
At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize
Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and select 
Finish Partitioning
Complete the installation

  
Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition
Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or DVD)
Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning 
of the disk instead,select Continue
At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize
Place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and select 
Finish Partitioning
Complete the installation
 
  Testcase:: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
DVD)
Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the partitioning 
of the disk instead,select Continue
At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize
Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 formatted partition,select Standard 
Partition for Device type  
Select Finish Partitioning,and Complete the installation

   Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision
   on the changes, I will update the wiki-page.

  Thank you,
  Lili Nie
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Re: update some testcases

2012-12-28 Thread Tao Wu
I am happy to see some changes in the test wiki page, and expecting for
your feedback. Thanks!

On 12-12-28 04:38, Lili Nie wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have taken part in the improve the test wiki pageproposed by Tao Wu.
 As there is huge change in f18, some test cases in the test wiki 
 pageseem to be inapplicable.
 I suggest to modify some of them, as the following:
 
  
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28encrypted%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is set to be encrypted
 you can encryted the whole disk before custom partitioning your disk
 or encryted part of the disk (for example,/root) after custom 
 partitioning your disk
 Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all 
 provided defaults
 After installation is complete, perform QA:Testcase_base_startup to 
 ensure the installed system boots correctly with the encrypted partitioning
 
  
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_autopart_%28use_free_space%29_install
  How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means
 Make sure your disk is not set to be encrypted
 Select the appropriate disk, and continue installation, choosing all 
 provided defaults
 As for the text mode, you should chooseuse free spacefor the 
 Autopartitioning Options
 Complete the installation
 
   Testcase:: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Partitioning_No_Swap
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the 
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue
 At the manual partitioning screen, remove the swap partition created by 
 anaconda, and select Finish Partitioning
 Complete the installation
 
Testcase:: 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext3_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 How to test
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the 
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue
 At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize
 Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext3 formatted partition,and select 
 Finish Partitioning
 Complete the installation
 
   
 Testcase::https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_xfs_rootfs_on_disk_partition
 Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the 
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue
 At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize
 Place the root filesystem(/) on an xfs formatted partition,and select 
 Finish Partitioning
 Complete the installation
  
   Testcase:: 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_anaconda_ext4_rootfs_on_disk_partition
  Boot the installer using any available means (netinst/boot.iso, PXE, or 
 DVD)
 Click into Installation Destination, select Let me custom the 
 partitioning of the disk instead,select Continue
 At the manual partitioning screen, choose root and click Customize
 Place the root filesystem(/) on an ext4 formatted partition,select 
 Standard Partition for Device type  
 Select Finish Partitioning,and Complete the installation
 
Any comments on these will be welcome, and as soon as we have a decision
on the changes, I will update the wiki-page.
 
   Thank you,
   Lili Nie
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