[Tex-music] test

[Maurizio Codogno]

Excuse me for the inconvenience: I need to know if I can move
manually the messages from the old to the new list!

ciao, .mau.


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[TeX-music] [ADMIN] the mailing list is being moved!

[Maurizio Codogno]

Dear all,
in a few days I'll move this mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at
the new location, at icking-music-archive.org.
So, do not be alarmed if you'll receive a message stating that you
are subscribed to a "new" list: it seems that the best way to do the
move is to subscribe all people to the new list, and then close
the old one. Archives will be kept, of course.

I hope to start the move this Friday, when I will be able to get
my own computer with all the information I need :-)

ciao, .mau.

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Re: [TeX-music] dvi2web :-)

[Maurizio Codogno]

>> I don't think that latex2html is available for windows, though.
>
>yes it is; though it does require a perl interpreter, which is
>available free, but requires rather a lot of disc space (and network
>transfer).

that would not be a problem, I already have ActivePerl.
The trouble is that I have also a cygwin environment (MusiXTeX runs
under it), and I fear that there a conflict between DLLs. At least,
Gimp for Windows does not start :-(

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] dvi2web :-)

[Maurizio Codogno]

I would like to put some excerpts of vocal parts on my web pages.
Whay do you suggest as filetype for the excerpts? Since they should be 
inline, I thought at PNG, but Ghostscript (7.04) seems either to create 
an image too large, or to have a bad rendering.

ciao, .mau.

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RE: [TeX-music] PMX/MusixTeX with pdftex: security hole

[Maurizio Codogno]

>> There is a possible explanation (and solution) here:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/tex-music@sunsite.dk/msg01512.html
>[...]
>
>Does anybody know why it is possible to access this message without
>beeing a member of the list, and without supplying a password ?

because "mail-archive.com" is a member of the list. I was asked
to do this wy back...

http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#spam explains how messages
should not be found by spammers.

ciao, .mau.

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Re: [TeX-music] status of M-Tx

[Maurizio Codogno]

>> cheer up, Dirk. Isn't TeX in its 192 state? :-)
>
>ave pertinax?

Better Pertinax than Nero!
(8 and 9 on my laptop are a bit hard to press - it could even have
been worse, with a "12" shown in full colo(u)rs!

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] status of M-Tx

[Maurizio Codogno]

>PS  I guiltily read the sentence saying that M-Tx is still in its 1998
>state.

cheer up, Dirk. Isn't TeX in its 192 state? :-)

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] problem solved!

[Maurizio Codogno]

I eventually found out that I had an old version of musixlyr.tex, namely
2.0 . Upgrading it to 2.0c solved my problem.

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[TeX-music] ok, I give up

[Maurizio Codogno]

The attached file is compilated correctly with the combination
pmx2.2 + MusiXTeX T.99 + musixlyr 1.1 on a Solaris machine, while
lyrics in the second (and third) line are misplaced with the combination
pmx2.4a + MusiXTeX T.109 + musixlyr 2.0 with cygwin.

It is not a problem with pmx, though: there is no difference in the
.tex files generated at the two computers.

Who can give me a hint?

ciao, .mau.




federica.pmx
Description: Binary data

Re: [TeX-music] oddities with cygwin

[Maurizio Codogno]

>Simply omit the final '|]' tokens from your M-Tx source

but was it a new feature? I was rather sure that I had to use |]
when I first compiled it on another machine.
But there are a lot of strange things, now: .pmi files are not
created, in the SATB4 version of my piece I got a series of errors

! Extra \fi.
\g@q ...\n@sym \q@u \y@v \qn@width \writ@note \fi

l.73 \pnotes{2.83}\qu{'C}
 \qu B\qu A&\ql{'c}\qu{`g}\qu{'a}&\qu e\qu d\qu
e&%

which I did not have before, and the version SATB has lyrics completely
misplaced in the second line: they are at the right of the music.

Now I have to investigate which difference there are: the
old system (on a Sun) used MusiXTeX T.98, MusiXLYRics 1.1, PMX 2.2,
and the new one T.109, 2.0, 2.4a respectively.

Mysteries...

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[TeX-music] oddities with cygwin

[Maurizio Codogno]

I am trying to set up MusiXTeX on a cygwin system. This means for
example that I have to compile both prepmx and pmxab to avoid dos
format, but this is no problem.

I noticed a strange thing, however. My piece ends with

 cn2   c | c2 of  r2   |]
L: sau-di-r\`a.
 a2af| g2 ofd r2   |]
L: sau-di-r\`a.
 acdf| e2 of r2  |]
L: sau-{}-di-{}-r\`a.
 d2d | c2 ofd r2   |]
L: sau-di-r\`a.

which is translated as

%Bar 11
c2 ofd r2 RD
 /
e2 of r2 /
g2 ofd r2 /
c2 of r2 /

but pmxab complains:

  Bar 1  Bar 2  Bar 3  Bar 4  Bar 5  Bar 6  Bar 7  Bar 8  Bar 9  Bar 10
 Bar 11
R? , ? not "d","r",or"b"; rptfq2:D

Having Rd instead of RD solves the problem, but the end of the piece
is a double thin bar, and not a thin+thick one.
Any suggestion?

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Re: [TeX-music] Re: Virus from Werner??

[Maurizio Codogno]

> Da: "Jean-Pierre Coulon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> AFAIK, all messages sent on this list are posted on the Web
> (see for example http://sunsite.dk/pipermail/tex-music/2001-May.txt ),
> and messages posted on the former gmd site are accessible in a
> similar way (see for example
> http://www.gmd.de/Mail/mutex-archive/1519.html )
> 
> Then a robot can easily find:
> 1: adresses to whom it can send the virus.

It may find them only if someone points at the archive 
directory from a web page wisited by a spider, of course.
Nobody can divine a link... 
In the case of GMD, we could ask to remove the archive, and
maybe send it to us for inclusion somewhere (Christian, do
you still have the address of the contact at GMD? I would 
like also to have he delete the old aliases from [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
you won't believe how much spam I receive, both as 
mutex-owner and as messages to the list which I reject) .

As for the current archives, I have modified the default,
and now they are available only to list members.

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] Problems with space

[Maurizio Codogno]

> Da: "Jean-Pierre Coulon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> BTW I was wondering if the "W3C HTML 4.01" is absolutely
> necessary on *each* page of our site. It is more than 2K big,

but it should be nicely cached, so it's not a space or time
issue.

> Close topic: is it absolutely necessary that some messages on this
> list contain this:
> *
> List-Unsubscribe: ,
>  
> *

I just had a look at the options for mailman (the software
which manages the list), but I could not find a place to 
modify the behaviour (I can delete footers, if many people
are annoyed). So I think it is something buried in the code,
and I cannot do anything about it. 

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] ADMIN: old messages

[Maurizio Codogno]

Dear all,
with the help of the staff at sunsite.dk we managed to 
solve a problem with the management of the list. In practice,
messages from people subscribed to the list went through
fine, but messages which I had to check (because they
were sent to the old list at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or from people
with accent in their names, or are just spam) were lost.
So, do not worry if some message really old is coming now!

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] Re: MiKTeX & MusiXTeX et. al.

[Maurizio Codogno]

> Da: "Alexander V. Voinov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > the ligatures are replaced by a pound sign (in Latex)
> 
> Sorry, what does this mean?

it means that the fonts are not aligned, so in the position
where the ligature should be we find instead a pound.
I don't know if there is a newer version of the font, though.

ciao, .mau.

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Re: [TeX-music] installing musixtex, pmx and mtx in windows xp

[Maurizio Codogno]

> Da: Bernhard Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> That's correct because there is no more autoexec.bat in WinNT/2000/XP. In
> NT you'd have to go to ->control-panel->system. 

in 2000, control panel -> system -> advanced -> environment.
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Re: [TeX-music] PostScript slurs

[Maurizio Codogno]

Bernhard Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

> Christian Mondrup wrote:
 
> > The disadvantage is of course that typesetters will be forced to
> > re-edit their scores if they want to change to postscript slurs. The
> > advantage is that a new syntax might better adopt to the curvature
> > variations offered in Stanislafs code.
> 
> And the severity of the disadvantage is related to the amount of slurs you
> have in your PMX formated scores which you still want to change/improve. I
> vote for keeping the syntax and replacing the thechnique. 

Call me an oldtimer, but I do not want that PostScript
(or any other output device) will be mandatory to print
TeX documents.

I can live with having PostScript slurs as default, however:
this means that people have to change their sources to keep
the old behaviour, but at least they may do this.

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] two problems: tiny notes and lyrics placement

[Maurizio Codogno]

I am transcribing a song (one voice, lyrics and chords), using M-Tx and pmx.
I ran into two problems, however.

(a) the song starts with a voiceless obbligato, which I wanted to show with
tiny notes. I added a macro
%%\def\tns{\tinynotesize}
and added \tns\ before the notes. It was nicely passed to the pmx source, but
the problem comes in the TeX output. Every time there is a \en (every bar at
best, but also when there are some eigths) I should add again a \tns\ , and 
this
is annoying. Is there any way to do it simpler? And what if I have two voices
in the same staff (sung part and some variant)?

(b) I want to add in the lyrics' line some annotation: "(Solo)" and "(Coro)".
The solution with \llyr\lyroffset{-5}\ does not seem to work. Since I have 
a bar
with a rest before the beginning of the lyrics, I could also force the text
under that bar, but I don't know how :-(


Suggestions?
ciao, .mau.

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Rif: Re: [TeX-music] sunsite.dk archive - pmx-unix-230.tgz

[Maurizio Codogno]

"A.H.Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > Has anyone else had a problem with pmx-unix-230.tgz in the archive?
> > 
> > with
> > tar -zxf pmx-unix-230.tgz
> > I get:-
> > gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
> > tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
> > tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
> > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

My personal opinion is that you forgot to download as 
binary type. 
I did it too, occasionally, and got the same kind of errors.

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] Re: .ps.gz extension

[Maurizio Codogno]

> > gunzip < PhD.pgz | acroread
> > should work, 
> 
> how do you manage to force Acrobat Reader to display *postscript*?

| gv -

I actually was interested in finding out how to cope with 
gunzip, I confess. 
But at that point, zcat is even better!

ciao, .mau.

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[TeX-music] Re: .ps.gz extension

[Maurizio Codogno]

> Da: Karl-Heinz Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > gunzip PhD.pgz
> gunzip: PhD.pgz: unknown suffix -- ignored

gunzip < PhD.pgz | acroread 
should work, (maybe "acroread -" is needed) but I agree
 it's not the best way to operate.

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[TeX-music] [ADMIN] please, check your addresses!

[Maurizio Codogno]

Dear all,
in order to help reduce spam this list (TeX-music) is 
configured so that messages from people not subscribed
are not posted directly to the list, but sent to the list
owner (me) to review. 

Usually I got one or two messages per day, which are 
promptly deleted. Today I have already approved three
articles, however. This is not a great fuss, but it may
happen that I am not connected, so such messages could stay
blocked for a while, and that's not good.

May I ask all of you to check their sending address so that
it matches the one they are subscribed with? If someone 
needs to use more than a sender address, just drop me a line.
This could be arranged.

ciao, .mau.

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Re: [TeX-music] Re: 3rd line of music

[Maurizio Codogno]

At 00:42 10/09/2001 +0900, nitadori wrote:
> >
> > Ok! Thank you! BTW: I'm not sure how many users need more
> > than 2 lines of music. Most scores have at most 2.
> >
>I tried to typeset Bach's Recercar a 6.

I may add that sometimes, when I want to transcribe a choral for piano,
I end up with fragments where tenor stays in the upper staff...

ciao, .mau.


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[TeX-music] adding musixtex, pmx, m-tx to MiKTeX

[Maurizio Codogno]

dear all, 
since at the moment I am stuck with windows, I installed 
MiKTeX. But I am not really sure how to add the necessary
files for MusixTeX (on Unix and Linux I always did it
by hand, it kinda work). 
Any quick tutorial? I skimmed through the Music Archives
without luck, but it could have been just me.

ciao, .mau.


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Re: [TeX-music] Trills

[Maurizio Codogno]

In die Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:09:49 +0200 (CEST)
Joerg Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scripsit:


> I want to implement trills into "noteedit". Unfortunately
> I don't know exactly how to play them.
> 
> I think it is an 32th alternation between the note with trill
> and the next semitone. But is it the semitone above or the
> semitone below ? Or are there 2 different symbols for above
> and below ?

If I remember correctly, there are two kind of trills, exactly as
there are two kind of mordents. The usual one starts with the current
note and uses the note above it, except for the next-to-last:
so, if you have a A, you play abababababababaga (as fast as you can :-) )
But in Mozart you see the trill more like an appoggiatura, so you
start from the note above: babababababababaga.
You see the difference not in the trill sign, but rather because the
appoggiatura is printed before the trilling note.

ciao, .mau.

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Re: [TeX-music] Accidentals: Size matters

[Maurizio Codogno]

In die Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:55:06 -0700
Don Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scripsit:

> All--
> 
> I'm considering changing PMX's default accidental sizing (big or small). 
>  The change would be incompatible with the older default, so I wanted to 
> ask for opinions.  The old default uses big if it fits without adding any 
> space, small otherwise. Does anyone uses the old default?

I do. 
It's true, I did not care, but especially when I have a lot of semiquaver
or 16s I find a bit disturbing to add space. But that's not a problem
as far as I am concerned.

ciao ,.mau.
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Re: [TeX-music] Reply-to, again

[Maurizio Codogno]

the matter with reply-to is that someone told me that it was 
easier to delete an address (with reply-to: set to the sender,
hitting group-reply to get both addresses, and deleting the original
sender) than add an address (with reply-to set to the list,
and wanting to answer only the sender).
This led me to change the behaviour of the list. I am slightly in 
favour of reply-to-list, but it is not an issue to me.

BTW, I wrote *this* message adding explicitly 
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], to see what happens :-)

ciao, .mau.
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[TeX-music] [ADMIN] beware of the old email address!

[Maurizio Codogno]

when people send messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], they are forwarded to 
the list [EMAIL PROTECTED], but they are NOT automatically
sent to the subscribers, but rather held for approval by the
moderator (me :-) ) I have no problem in accepting them, of course,
but they may be delayed because I am not really always online :-)

ciao, .mau.
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[TeX-music] slightly off topic: text of Latin psalms?

[Maurizio Codogno]

I need them since I want to write a choral in Latin, and my knowledge of
the language is not enough to write the text from scratch: what the heck,
it's twenty years since I learned it!

may somebody help me?

ciao, .mau.
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[TeX-music] (Anti)aliasing

[Maurizio Codogno]

 On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Christian Mondrup wrote: 
 > Would one of those in the know please give me a
 > short explanation of the meaning of the term 'antialiasing'? 

a quick search with google shows 

http://www.lunaloca.com/tutorials/antialiasing/ 
http://www.lunaloca.com/tutorials/antialiasing/glossary.html

and  

http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/pbourke/rendering/bitmapaliasing/
 
in practice, you don't use just two bits to render a black&white
picture, but a number of gray shades. Seen from very near, the image
is blurry, but the eye is tricked and seems it is better.

ciao, .mau.
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[TeX-music] Re: Your message to TeX-music awaits moderator approval

[Maurizio Codogno]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:18:05 +0200
Dirk Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The trouble with the automatic migration of the list is that I do
> not know how to inform the list software that my e-mail address is
> now [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dirk has already found out how to do it, but other people may
be interested in knowing that:

You may either use the web interface at 
http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music 

or 

you may send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with body

unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ciao, .mau.

BTW: I switched the behaviour of the Reply-To: field to the 
old way, that is, default is Reply-To-Sender.

ciao, .mau.
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[TeX-music] Welcome (back) all!

[Maurizio Codogno]

Dear Mutexers,

I am really happy to inform that - in spite of a goofy move that I 
did... - the list [EMAIL PROTECTED] has landed to the new address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Many thanks to everybody who helped me with the configuration.

We should still wait a bit to have all the archives back in line 
and searchable, but they are not lost. Messages are archived from now
on at http://sunsite.dk/pipermail/tex-music/ , while the administrative
page for the list is http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music .

I have arranged with the people at GMD so that messages sent to
the old address will be automagically sent to the new address: they
will not automatically published, however, but they must be reviewed by
me (I do not know how to switch off this check :-) )

Posts from addresses not in the list of subscribers are also held for
approval, to reduce spam. It is however possible for me to add aliases,
so don't worry if you prefer to post with another address. Posts from
subscribers are not filtered in any way, needless to say.

Let's go back to music typesetting!

ciao, .mau.
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[TeX-music] first test

[Maurizio Codogno]

(nearly) nobody should see it :-)

ciao, .mau.
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