[TeX-music] What is intended by the mark "en dehors" ??
Le ven 22/10/2004 à 16:26, Jean-Pierre Coulon a écrit : > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Cornelius C. Noack wrote: > > >> > > If I understand you correctly, "en dehors" is more or less what is > > often denoted as "solo" in orchestral scores (in the winds, in particular). > > Almost. "Solo" means still more contrast than "en dehors". > > > So I guess a sensible (and actually almost literal!) translation to English > > would be "standing out", right? > > I think "emphasized" would be perfect. In my opinion, "standing out" is a better translation, nearer from the french words. Olivier ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] What is intended by the mark "en dehors" ??
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Cornelius C. Noack wrote:
If I understand you correctly, "en dehors" is more or less what is
often denoted as "solo" in orchestral scores (in the winds, in particular).
Almost. "Solo" means still more contrast than "en dehors".
So I guess a sensible (and actually almost literal!) translation to English
would be "standing out", right?
I think "emphasized" would be perfect.
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Re: [TeX-music] What is intended by the mark "en dehors" ??
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Cornelius C. Noack wrote:
In 19th and 20th century French music (Frank, Debussy, Ravel,
Stravinsky) one often comes across the mark "en dehors" -
obviously
meaning a certain way of singing or playing certain section of
music.
It appears together both with pp and ff, so its different from a
simple dynamical mark..
I do know the literal french meaning: "outside" or "outward",
and with
the help of google I found that it is also a technical term in
ballet
dancing; but I found nothing in any music dictionary (at least
those
that I have access to).
'Hope somebody hilft' !
Simply play this part in this section comparatively louder than
the other parts. I guess you are in a polyphonic writing. For
example, pianists play every occurence of a Fugue theme "en
dehors". (what organists and harpischordists do would be off-topic
:-)
Also noted like this by some musicians on their scores:
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En hoppant que ça helpe :-)
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If I understand you correctly, "en dehors" is more or less what is
often denoted as "solo" in orchestral scores (in the winds, in
particular).
So I guess a sensible (and actually almost literal!) translation to
English would be "standing out", right?
ccn.
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Universit"at Bremen secretary: -2422
Otto-Hahn-Allee Fax : -4869
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Re: [TeX-music] What is intended by the mark "en dehors" ??
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Cornelius C. Noack wrote:
In 19th and 20th century French music (Frank, Debussy, Ravel,
Stravinsky) one often comes across the mark "en dehors" - obviously
meaning a certain way of singing or playing certain section of music.
It appears together both with pp and ff, so its different from a
simple dynamical mark..
I do know the literal french meaning: "outside" or "outward", and with
the help of google I found that it is also a technical term in ballet
dancing; but I found nothing in any music dictionary (at least those
that I have access to).
'Hope somebody hilft' !
Simply play this part in this section comparatively louder than the other parts.
I guess you are in a polyphonic writing. For example, pianists play every
occurence of a Fugue theme "en dehors". (what organists and harpischordists do
would be off-topic :-)
Also noted like this by some musicians on their scores:
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|
En hoppant que ça helpe :-)
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[TeX-music] What is intended by the mark "en dehors" ??
In 19th and 20th century French music (Frank, Debussy, Ravel, Stravinsky) one often comes across the mark "en dehors" - obviously meaning a certain way of singing or playing certain section of music. It appears together both with pp and ff, so its different from a simple dynamical mark.. I do know the literal french meaning: "outside" or "outward", and with the help of google I found that it is also a technical term in ballet dancing; but I found nothing in any music dictionary (at least those that I have access to). 'Hope somebody hilft' ! ccn -- . Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. Noack Phones: Inst. f. Theor. Physik FB 1 office : +49 (421) 218-2427 Universit"at Bremen secretary: -2422 Otto-Hahn-Allee Fax : -4869 D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 Fax: 346 7872 E-mail: noack at itp.uni-bremen.de or ccnoack at mailaps.org WWW-page: www.itp.uni-bremen.de/~noack . ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
