Re: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
Le jeudi 19 mai 2005 à 14:45 +0200, Alexander Beck-Ratzka a écrit :
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>
>
> Hello list,
>
> according the Email of Oliver on Fri May 13 01:32:35 CEST 2005 I've tried
> to set three voice in one note line. The suggested is not useful in my
> case, because I have not two staves.
>
Totally false. This example shows you, once again, how to proceed.
2 2 2 4 2 4
0.75 2
1 2 20 0
tt
./
Abrpl+s+t
\\setinterinstrument{1}{-10\Interligne}\interstaff{10}\
r1b r8b | Rl d43l a+l /
r1-2 r8-2 | r8+0 f15 zd f zd r4b //
d16 d- f | c+4 st c1 st b sd a s g /
e4l el /
r8 g-1 ze g ze r4b //
b-4 st b1 st b sd c s d /
a4l al /
r8+0 c+1 zg c zg r4b //
f4 st f1 st e a f /
d-4l dl /
r8 a1 zf a zf r4b //
b-4 st b1 st a f d /
d4l [l f8 ff ] /
r2b //
r1 a+1 f d f8 ff /
e4l el /
r2b //
e8 b+1 zg b sAt zg sBtl b sAt zg sBt b s c s d /
a4l al /
r8 c+1 zg c zg r4b //
f4 st f1 st e a f /
d-4l dl /
r8 a1 zf a zf r4b //
b-4 st b1 st d+ d- f /
Olivier
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Re: Letters for pitches (was RE: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Don Simons wrote: > > thought you were taking into account the way TeX was going to change the > octave. As you can see, PMX is still confused about the default directions > of the stems; that's because it still thinks it's putting the notes much > lower. The moral of this story is: "Don't use letters for pitches in in-line > TeX." I know that you can't then easily transpose the resulting score. All I > can say about that is that I'm sorry, if you want that much flexibility, > then go spend $500 for Finale. Dear Don: many of us were attracted to PMX less by determent from Sibelius and Finale by the stiff fees than by the quality of the PMX-musixtex sets. But I would also make a comment: in the past I had to use quite often editing of the resulting tex-file because certain features were not yet available in pmx. Musixtex gives you an enormous flexibility and allows almost anything; still, the time saving by creating the crude tex file by using PMX is tremendous. Of course once one has started to modify the tex file, it does not make sense to improve the setting by processing via PMX, but one has to debug the tex file directly. It is thus a good idea to debug throroughly before starting editing the tex file. By the way, transposition is still possible on the musixtex level. In the last year, I can not remember to have had to use post-editing; the reason is that all my wishes in regard of features were incorporated into PMX, and they were quite numerous. Thank you for improving PMX in the last years to do almost anything. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: Letters for pitches (was RE: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
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1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 1 2 20 0
t
.\
c44 D"Less dangerous" b a g | \zqu u\ c b a g /
c44 D"Safe" b a g | \zqu{16}\ c b a g /
==
does the job
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Letters for pitches (was RE: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
I'll let one of the others handle the basic questions here. I want to
comment on
> 3) What means N\ or M\ or L\ or \Mordent or \Shakenw or \n in the passage:
As any experienced user knows, a construct like "\Mordent M\" is an in-line
TeX command. The "\"'s are delimiters that show the start and stop of the
inline TeX. My comment pertains to the use of a letter rather than a number
to refer to a pitch level. In short, for in-line TeX in PMX, it's not a very
good idea to use letters. They can change the octave register and PMX will
not know it and can get very confused. Here's an extreme example:
==
1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 1 2 20 0
t
.\
c44 D"Dangerous" b a g | \zqu{''g}\ c b a g /
c44 D"Safe" b a g | \zqu{16}\ c b a g /
==
Now suppose you really had wanted the pitches as they come out in bar 2, and
thought you were taking into account the way TeX was going to change the
octave. As you can see, PMX is still confused about the default directions
of the stems; that's because it still thinks it's putting the notes much
lower. The moral of this story is: "Don't use letters for pitches in in-line
TeX." I know that you can't then easily transpose the resulting score. All I
can say about that is that I'm sorry, if you want that much flexibility,
then go spend $500 for Finale.
--Don Simons
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> Subject: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't
> get it ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello list,
>
> according the Email of Oliver on Fri May 13 01:32:35 CEST 2005 I've tried
> to set three voice in one note line. The suggested is not useful in my
> case, because I have not two staves.
>
> Okay, I'll describe my problem again. I want to set a piece for guitar
> music, and I have three voices. For guitar music, only one note line is
> used.
>
> My problems might also arise, because I am an newby using PMX ...
>
> In the solutions offered on this list there are some passages, I don't
> understand:
>
> 1) How can I involve TeX inline commands?
>
> 2) What does it mean, XS+.5 in:
>
> cut here#
> g02 st //
> g43 e8 d e4 d8 c /
> XS+.5 c44 c f f //
> XS+.5 g44 e a a /
> c05 /
> cut here#
>
> 3) What means N\ or M\ or L\ or \Mordent or \Shakenw or \n in the passage:
>
> cut here#
> \zhlp N\ rb4 bu2 | \zhlp M\ rb4 au2 | \zhlp L\ rb4 gu2 | d2 t d8 t c //
> r4+10 r+10 d | r+9 r+9 d | r+8 r+8 cs | r4+8 \zhu M\ r+8 a /
> g45 g s \Mordent r\ ad8 s b1 | a8 Gsm2g f Gsm2e d2 | \Mordent n\ g4-
> \Shakenw n\ gd f1 g
> a3 s g f1 s g3 s f e1 s Gse d2 /
> cut here#
>
> The last passage is an extract of an example how to set three voices with
> PMX using TeX inline commands. The full pmx source can be found
> over a link
> in
>
> http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/private/tex-music/2005-May
/003519.html
Hoping for help...
Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
1) How can I involve TeX inline commands? See your third question 2) What does it mean, XS+.5 in: shift by +.5 (see the pmx reference card, that's an excellent tool for "reverse engineering" of pmx files, then look up the subject in the PMX manual). 3) What means N\ or M\ or L\ or \Mordent or \Shakenw or \n in the passage: That's inline TeX. Any of those strings starting with a backslash and ending with a backslash subsequently followed by a blank is passed directly to TeX. Instead of " N\" you should read "\zhlp N\" which codes a non-shifting dotted half note at pitch g in the tenor octave. For details of the syntax you should refer to musixdoc.dvi Other variants of inline TeX start with either two or three consecutive backslashes. This controls where PMX inserts the chunk into its own TeX output. hope that helps, happy pmxing Bernhard Lang | Physical Chemistry Departement, Sciences II 21, Avenue du Denantou | University of Geneva; 30, Quai Ernest Ansermet CH-1006 Lausanne, Suisse| CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland TEL/FAX: +41(0)21 601 3657 | TEL +41(0)22 379-6535, FAX -6518 bernhard.lang at gmx.ch ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
Hello list, according the Email of Oliver on Fri May 13 01:32:35 CEST 2005 I've tried to set three voice in one note line. The suggested is not useful in my case, because I have not two staves. Okay, I'll describe my problem again. I want to set a piece for guitar music, and I have three voices. For guitar music, only one note line is used. My problems might also arise, because I am an newby using PMX ... In the solutions offered on this list there are some passages, I don't understand: 1) How can I involve TeX inline commands? 2) What does it mean, XS+.5 in: cut here# g02 st // g43 e8 d e4 d8 c / XS+.5 c44 c f f // XS+.5 g44 e a a / c05 / cut here# 3) What means N\ or M\ or L\ or \Mordent or \Shakenw or \n in the passage: cut here# \zhlp N\ rb4 bu2 | \zhlp M\ rb4 au2 | \zhlp L\ rb4 gu2 | d2 t d8 t c // r4+10 r+10 d | r+9 r+9 d | r+8 r+8 cs | r4+8 \zhu M\ r+8 a / g45 g s \Mordent r\ ad8 s b1 | a8 Gsm2g f Gsm2e d2 | \Mordent n\ g4- \Shakenw n\ gd f1 g a3 s g f1 s g3 s f e1 s Gse d2 / cut here# The last passage is an extract of an example how to set three voices with PMX using TeX inline commands. The full pmx source can be found over a link in http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/private/tex-music/2005-May/003519.html Hoping for help... Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
