Re: [Tex-music] PMX news: Instrument-wise transposition
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 02:54:22AM +0200, Don Simons wrote: I've been avoiding facing up to the possibility of entering info in the transposed key, let alone working out how to get MIDI to deal with it. I have vague notions of somehow internally doing a reverse transposition. This will take longer to work out. At the syntax level it's easy to dream up something logical: K[+/-][trans amt.][+/-][new key] applies to the whole score Ki[instrument #][+/-][trans amt.][+/-][new key] applies to this instrument, overriding whole score KIi[instrument #][+/-][trans amt.] applies to this instrument's MIDI output (default: no transposition) KSi[instrument #][+/-][sharps/flats] instrument-specific key signature, overriding isig needed at start of score since transposing 0 semitones will print the old and new key signatures. Those terrible piano pieces (Scriabin? Rachmaninov? I forget) that notate the two hands in different keys will have to be notated as one instrument per hand :-) Didn't the formidable Serge occasionally write piano music on three staves, or is that only the poor editor's attempt at making it playable for people with normal hands? Dirk Dirk --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX news: Instrument-wise transposition
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Don Simons wrote: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:54:22 -0700 From: Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com Reply-To: Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@tug.org To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' tex-music@tug.org Subject: Re: [Tex-music] PMX news: Instrument-wise transposition Dirk Laurie wrote Comment: MIDI transposition should be independent of the printout. There are three different pitch levels to worry about (relative to concert pitch): 1. PMX input 2. Printed output 3. MIDI output Here are my 2 bits to the `common usage' regarding printed output: 1) it's completely nonstandardized, even among `professional' editors, 2) to my experience, in the full scores used by (professional) conductors, the notation of transposing instruments is usually NOT concert pitch, but the notation as read by the instrumentalists (C for a B clarinet in a concert pitch B), whereas in pocket scores and scores for amateur use, you often find concert pitch only, troughout. In tonal music, one can usually find out which is the case by looking at the key signatures, a clue unfortunately missing in most contemporary works, 3) an absolutely stupefying example is in a wind quartet (flute, oboe, clarinet in B, bassoon) by Boris Blacher, editor Bote Bock: in the (pocket) score, you find the clarinet denoted in its own B pitch (i.e. NOT concert pitch), but in the flute part, the clue notes of the clarinet are denoted in concert pitch!! With keys absent, it takes some detective sleuthing to find out what's going on (apparently the editor considers the reader of the score a professional, whereas a flutist is considered a non-wood-instrumentalist ... well ... ). Summing all this up, my conclusion for PMX is: a) with a score fully in concert pitch, there is no issue, b) if the PMX writer aims for practical use, she should take advantage of the new K feature BOTH in the score and the parts (for the transposing instruments). Although it's of course possible to arrange things differently in the score and the (transposing) parts, it's NOT advisable, for reason c), c) in all cases, the MIDI output should give everything as it sounds. That, IMHO, is an absolute MUST! How easy that is to implement depends on the MIDI implementation from the PMX source or the resulting TeX source -- Don !!?? But in any case, again IMHO, implementing concert pitch in the score and the transposing pitch(es) in the part(s) is a luxury that isn't worth Dons time. Don: I shall describe the rules in my tutorial according to PMX 2.610, i.e. as is, hoping that nobody will in the meantime find a bug in that version! ccn. -- .. Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. Noack Inst. f. Theor. Physik FB 1 Universitat Bremen Phone: +49 (421) 218-62031 Otto-Hahn-Allee Fax : -4869 D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 Fax: 346 7872 E-mail: noack at itp.uni-bremen.de or ccnoack at mailaps.org WWW-page: www.itp.uni-bremen.de/~noack .. --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX news: Instrument-wise transposition
Don Simons wrote: There's a new beta version 2.610 of PMX that has the ability to transpose one or several selected instruments. A very important improvement! I'm very glad to you, Don. I've tested it with wine and it works well, but I cannot compile the sources for linux with f2c. I've changed to the getarg lines and compiled with the command 'f2c pmxab.f -Nx400 -Nn802' but it doesn't works. I need some help! Luigi My informations: s.o.: debian lenny 5.0.8 on kernel linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 compiler: f2c (Fortran to C Translator) version 20061008 Here is my output. f2c pmxab.f -Nx400 -Nn802 pmxab.f: MAIN pmxab: accsym: addask: addblank: addfb: addmidi: addstr: adjusteskz: askfig: backfill: beamend: beamid: beamn1: beamstrt: BLOCK DATA: catspace: chax: checkdyn: chkarp: chkimidi: chklit: chkpm4ac: clefsym: crdacc: crdaccs: doacc: docrd: dodyn: dograce: Warning on line 5219 of pmxab.f: local variable lshft never used dopsslur: doslur: dotmov: dotrill: endslur: errmsg: eskb4: f1eon: feon: findbeam: findeonk: fnote: g1etchar: g1etnote: g1etset: g1etx: getbuf: getchar: getdyn: getfig: getgrace: getitransinfo: getmidi: getnote: getorn: getpmxmod: getset: getsquez: getx: i1fnodur: iashft: ifnodur: ifnolev: igetbits: igetvarlen: isdotted: isetvarlen: istring: lenstr: levrn: lfmt1: linebreakties: littex: llen: log2: logbeam: m1rec1: make1bar: make2bar: makeabar: midievent: moveln: mrec1: ncmid: ncmidf: newvoice: notefq: notex: ntindex: ntrbbb: numclef: outbar: pmxa: pmxb: Warning on line 19094 of pmxab.f: incompatible lengths for common block comtrans poestats: precrd: printl: putarp: putast: putcb: putfig: putorn: putshft: puttitle: putxtn: read10: readin: readmeter: readnum: setbits: setbm2: setmac: setmeter: setupb: sortpoe: spsslur: sslur: stop1: topfile: udfq: udqq: ulfq: upcaseq: wgmeter: writemidi: writesetsign: Warning on line 23336 of pmxab.f: ignoring text after end. Error on line 23337 of pmxab.f: Declaration error for MAIN: external name already used MAIN: Warning on line 23348 of pmxab.f: RETURN statement in main or block data wsclef: --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX news: Instrument-wise transposition
Hey, Luigi-- Thanks for the report! You wrote A very important improvement! I'm very glad to you, Don. I've tested it with wine and it works well, So you enjoyed the wine? Maybe a good Chianti? but I cannot compile the sources for linux with f2c. ... One of those inexplicable Windows batch script things happened when I consolidated all my separate FORTRAN sources into one. (It did the same thing OK about 200 times and screwed up the 201st). I should consult with Andre the DOS whiz about it :-) I've manually fixed the source file, replaced the one in the zip at http://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2610.zip and confirmed at least that I can compile the single source file with gfortran. --Don --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
