Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

2013-06-19 Thread Dirk Laurie
2013/6/18 Luigi Cataldi luica...@gmail.com:

 I know that M-Tx is not aware of movement breaks and the possibility to 
 change
 the number of voices (MTX manual p. A-7).

The reason for that is that I have never needed the feature myself and therefore
did not master how to use it from PMX.  I don't think there is any
very intrinsic
reason why M-Tx can't do it. So please try.

Dirk
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Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

2013-06-19 Thread Hermann Hinsch
Am Dienstag, 18. Juni 2013, 18:18:07 schrieb Luigi Cataldi:
 Dear all,
 
 I know that M-Tx is not aware of movement breaks and the possibility to
 change the number of voices (MTX manual p. A-7). So, if I understand well,
 is not possible to have, for instance, 5 voices in the first movement, and
 4 in the second, as in the pmx example printed below, at MTX level.
 Nevertheless is there a way to do this starting with MTX source?
 

It is possible! Start with a dummy bar with the total number of voices. Use 
the pmx command M and the new number of voices. As mtx doesn´t assign the 
number of the new voices correctly you have to edit the pmx file by hand, make 
the corrections and change all rp / by %

If you are interested I can send you an example as mtx source and the edited 
pmx source. You may have a look of the layout on www.rzuser.uni-
heidelberg.de/~nh0/QUICS.html Composer Bruschi

Hermann


 And, if not, is there a way to code in MTX the two movements in two
 different files and join them at tex level, but preserving the same layout
 of the PMX example (pag. 1: mov. 1 on the first system, mov. 2 starting on
 the second system; pag. 2: the rest of the score)?
 
 Thanks
 
 Luigi
 


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Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

2013-06-19 Thread Don Simons
If you need to post- edit the PMX file, the solution is less than 100%
satisfying. Here's a thought I haven't tested: Maybe you could put inline
PMX commands in the M-Tx source before and after any rp / you wish to
eliminate, that record a macro and then stop recording, thereby eliminating
the line from PMX processing at that time.

--Don Simons

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From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Hermann
Hinsch
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:13 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

Am Dienstag, 18. Juni 2013, 18:18:07 schrieb Luigi Cataldi:
 Dear all,

 I know that M-Tx is not aware of movement breaks and the possibility to
 change the number of voices (MTX manual p. A-7). So, if I understand
well,
 is not possible to have, for instance, 5 voices in the first movement,
and
 4 in the second, as in the pmx example printed below, at MTX level.
 Nevertheless is there a way to do this starting with MTX source?


It is possible! Start with a dummy bar with the total number of voices. Use
the pmx command M and the new number of voices. As mtx doesn´t assign the
number of the new voices correctly you have to edit the pmx file by hand,
make
the corrections and change all rp / by %

If you are interested I can send you an example as mtx source and the
edited
pmx source. You may have a look of the layout on www.rzuser.uni-
heidelberg.de/~nh0/QUICS.html Composer Bruschi

Hermann


 And, if not, is there a way to code in MTX the two movements in two
 different files and join them at tex level, but preserving the same
layout
 of the PMX example (pag. 1: mov. 1 on the first system, mov. 2 starting
on
 the second system; pag. 2: the rest of the score)?

 Thanks

 Luigi



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Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

2013-06-19 Thread Luigi Cataldi
Thanks to all!

The problem arises from the fact that MTX add the missing voices (with rp, as 
Herman wrote). For this reason we need to post- edit the PMX file, and, I agree 
with Don, the solution is less than 100% satisfying.

A simple solution is to typeset the two movements in two separate MTX files and 
combine the resulting tex files in a score, but, especially in the extracted 
parts, it's possible to have a page with just one or two staffs, situation, 
once again, less than 100% satisfying.

Luigi



On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:25:08 -0700
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 If you need to post- edit the PMX file, the solution is less than 100%
 satisfying. Here's a thought I haven't tested: Maybe you could put inline
 PMX commands in the M-Tx source before and after any rp / you wish to
 eliminate, that record a macro and then stop recording, thereby eliminating
 the line from PMX processing at that time.
 
 --Don Simons
 
 -Original Message-
 From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Hermann
 Hinsch
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:13 AM
 To: Werner Icking Music Archive
 Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX
 
 Am Dienstag, 18. Juni 2013, 18:18:07 schrieb Luigi Cataldi:
  Dear all,
 
  I know that M-Tx is not aware of movement breaks and the possibility to
  change the number of voices (MTX manual p. A-7). So, if I understand
 well,
  is not possible to have, for instance, 5 voices in the first movement,
 and
  4 in the second, as in the pmx example printed below, at MTX level.
  Nevertheless is there a way to do this starting with MTX source?
 
 
 It is possible! Start with a dummy bar with the total number of voices. Use
 the pmx command M and the new number of voices. As mtx doesn´t assign the
 number of the new voices correctly you have to edit the pmx file by hand,
 make
 the corrections and change all rp / by %
 
 If you are interested I can send you an example as mtx source and the
 edited
 pmx source. You may have a look of the layout on www.rzuser.uni-
 heidelberg.de/~nh0/QUICS.html Composer Bruschi
 
 Hermann
 
 
  And, if not, is there a way to code in MTX the two movements in two
  different files and join them at tex level, but preserving the same
 layout
  of the PMX example (pag. 1: mov. 1 on the first system, mov. 2 starting
 on
  the second system; pag. 2: the rest of the score)?
 
  Thanks
 
  Luigi
 
 
 
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Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

2013-06-19 Thread Don Simons
Silly me, I couldn't let this rest, and started looking for ways to fool
M-Tx into putting the right PMX code in the right places to get what Luigi
wants without any post-editing. After many failed attempts, I did come up
with something that sort of does it. But you may need to enter the source
one bar at a time to get this to work. The basic idea is indeed to use MS
... M to get PMX to ignore some of the M-Tx-generated PMX code, but the
devil is in the details:


Style: Quintet
Meter: 8/4
Pages: 2
Systems: 4

%%h
%%Mov. 1
c2+ c c c 
g2 g g g 
e2+ e e e  
c2+ c c c 
c2+ c c c 

%%L2Mn42345batt
%%h
%%Mov. 2
g2 g g g 
e2 e e e 
c2 c c c 
M c2- c c c 
MS1 rp 

g2 g g g 
e2 e e e 
c2 c c c 
M c2 c c c 
MS1 rp

g2 g g g 
e2 e e e 
c2 c c c 
M c2 c c c 
MS1 rp
==

--Don Simons

-Original Message-
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Luigi
Cataldi
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:10 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX

Thanks to all!

The problem arises from the fact that MTX add the missing voices (with
rp, as
Herman wrote). For this reason we need to post- edit the PMX file, and, I
agree with
Don, the solution is less than 100% satisfying.

A simple solution is to typeset the two movements in two separate MTX files
and
combine the resulting tex files in a score, but, especially in the
extracted parts, it's
possible to have a page with just one or two staffs, situation, once again,
less than
100% satisfying.

Luigi



On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:25:08 -0700
Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 If you need to post- edit the PMX file, the solution is less than 100%
 satisfying. Here's a thought I haven't tested: Maybe you could put inline
 PMX commands in the M-Tx source before and after any rp / you wish to
 eliminate, that record a macro and then stop recording, thereby
eliminating
 the line from PMX processing at that time.

 --Don Simons

 -Original Message-
 From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Hermann
 Hinsch
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:13 AM
 To: Werner Icking Music Archive
 Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Number of voices chenge in MTX
 
 Am Dienstag, 18. Juni 2013, 18:18:07 schrieb Luigi Cataldi:
  Dear all,
 
  I know that M-Tx is not aware of movement breaks and the possibility
to
  change the number of voices (MTX manual p. A-7). So, if I understand
 well,
  is not possible to have, for instance, 5 voices in the first movement,
 and
  4 in the second, as in the pmx example printed below, at MTX level.
  Nevertheless is there a way to do this starting with MTX source?
 
 
 It is possible! Start with a dummy bar with the total number of voices.
Use
 the pmx command M and the new number of voices. As mtx doesn´t assign
the
 number of the new voices correctly you have to edit the pmx file by
hand,
 make
 the corrections and change all rp / by %
 
 If you are interested I can send you an example as mtx source and the
 edited
 pmx source. You may have a look of the layout on www.rzuser.uni-
 heidelberg.de/~nh0/QUICS.html Composer Bruschi
 
 Hermann
 
 
  And, if not, is there a way to code in MTX the two movements in two
  different files and join them at tex level, but preserving the same
 layout
  of the PMX example (pag. 1: mov. 1 on the first system, mov. 2
starting
 on
  the second system; pag. 2: the rest of the score)?
 
  Thanks
 
  Luigi
 
 
 
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