Thank you, Hermann and Jean-Pierre for your helpful ideas with the macros!

White notation works perfect now, and the trick with covering the whole note is 
a practical solution, too!

Christoph

Am 07.08.2013 um 16:24 schrieb tex-music-requ...@tug.org:

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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:41:47 +0200
> From: Hermann Hinsch <hermann.hin...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
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> Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 17:27:02 schrieb Christoph Prendl:
>> Dear MusiXTeX community!
>> 
>> I'm using MusiXTeX together with LaTeX for my doctoral thesis in musicology
>> for about a year now and consider it the absolute best tool available for
>> doing transcriptions of 17th century treatises with a lot of examples in
>> staff notation.
>> 
>> While working with MusiXTeX, a few questions arose I couldn't answer with
>> the documentation. I thought I collect them to present them to all of you,
>> maybe someone has an idea how to solve them. I would be very grateful for
>> any comments or help.
>> 
>> 1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for example
>> in french baroque music), where all note heads are white? If there would be
>> a possibility to write notes with invisible note heads (maybe in a similar
>> way as the note heads in musixper), one could combine them with the
>> non-spacing white note heads (\znh).
>> 
> Some years ago I learned from Don Simons how to use white notes in a M-Tx-
> source
> 
> \\makeatletter\
> \\def\opennotes{\
> \\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\
> \\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\
> \\let\qs\ds@oup\
> \\let\ds@oup\qp\
> %
> \\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hupt\hup\
> \\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\
> \\let\zqu\zhu\
> \\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\
> \\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\ 
> \\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\
> \\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\pause\let\pause\P
> Ause}\
> %
> \\def\closednotes{\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\
> \\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hup\hupt\
> \\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\qs\qst\let\hpause\hpau
> set\let\pause\pauset}\
> \\makeatother\ 
> 
> % Usage:
> \\\opennotes\  to switch to white note  \\\closednotes\ to switch back to 
> black 
> notes
> 
> You have to enter the notes with half the value you to see printed
> 
> Hermann Hinsch 
> 
> 
> 
>> 2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head
>> instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g.
>> modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis?
>> 
>> 3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up?
>> 
>> 4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads?
>> It could be very useful when writing ligatures in 17th and 18th century
>> gregorian chant. The result can be obtained with the offset-commands, but
>> it takes more time and effort. I'm aware there could be a problem with the
>> distances, since the breve note head is wider than others.
>> 
>> I'm looking forward to your response, thanks!
>> best wishes,
>> Christoph
>> 
>> 
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> From: Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>
> To: "'Werner Icking Music Archive'" <tex-music@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
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> Thanks, Hermann! But full disclosure: These macros came directly from Werner
> Icking. 
> 
> 
> 
> I used them when making my edition of the complete works of Bernardo
> Storace:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.pchpublish.com/gif/bspasap6.gif
> 
> 
> 
> --Don Simons
> 
> 
> 
> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Hermann
> Hinsch
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:42 AM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
> 
> 
> 
> Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 17:27:02 schrieb Christoph Prendl:
> 
>> Dear MusiXTeX community!
> 
>> 
> 
>> I'm using MusiXTeX together with LaTeX for my doctoral thesis in
> musicology
> 
>> for about a year now and consider it the absolute best tool available for
> 
>> doing transcriptions of 17th century treatises with a lot of examples in
> 
>> staff notation.
> 
>> 
> 
>> While working with MusiXTeX, a few questions arose I couldn't answer with
> 
>> the documentation. I thought I collect them to present them to all of you,
> 
>> maybe someone has an idea how to solve them. I would be very grateful for
> 
>> any comments or help.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for
> example
> 
>> in french baroque music), where all note heads are white? If there would
> be
> 
>> a possibility to write notes with invisible note heads (maybe in a similar
> 
>> way as the note heads in musixper), one could combine them with the
> 
>> non-spacing white note heads (\znh).
> 
>> 
> 
> Some years ago I learned from Don Simons how to use white notes in a
> M-Tx-source
> 
> 
> 
> \\makeatletter\ <file:///\\makeatletter\> 
> 
> \\def\opennotes{\ <file:///\\def\opennotes%7b\> 
> 
> \\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\
> <file:///\\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\> 
> 
> \\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\ <file:///\\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\> 
> 
> \\let\qs\ds@oup\ <file:///\\let\qs\ds@oup\> 
> 
> \\let\ds@oup\qp\ <file:///\\let\ds@oup\qp\> 
> 
> %
> 
> \\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hupt\hup\
> <file:///\\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hu
> pt\hup\> 
> 
> \\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\
> <file:///\\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\> 
> 
> \\let\zqu\zhu\ <file:///\\let\zqu\zhu\> 
> 
> \\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\ <file:///\\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\> 
> 
> \\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\
> <file:///\\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\>  
> 
> \\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\
> <file:///\\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\> 
> 
> \\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\pause\let\pau
> se\PAuse}\
> <file:///\\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\paus
> e\let\pause\PAuse%7d\> 
> 
> %
> 
> \\def\closednotes{\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\
> <file:///\\def\closednotes%7b\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\> 
> 
> \\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hup\hupt\
> <file:///\\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hu
> p\hupt\> 
> 
> \\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\qs\qst\le
> t\hpause\hpauset\let\pause\pauset}\
> <file:///\\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\
> qs\qst\let\hpause\hpauset\let\pause\pauset%7d\> 
> 
> \\makeatother\ <file:///\\makeatother\>  
> 
> 
> 
> % Usage:
> 
> \\\opennotes\ <file:///\\\opennotes\>  to switch to white note
> \\\closednotes\ <file:///\\\closednotes\>  to switch back to black notes
> 
> 
> 
> You have to enter the notes with half the value you to see printed
> 
> 
> 
> Hermann Hinsch 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head
> 
>> instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g.
> 
>> modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis?
> 
>> 
> 
>> 3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up?
> 
>> 
> 
>> 4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads?
> 
>> It could be very useful when writing ligatures in 17th and 18th century
> 
>> gregorian chant. The result can be obtained with the offset-commands, but
> 
>> it takes more time and effort. I'm aware there could be a problem with the
> 
>> distances, since the breve note head is wider than others.
> 
>> 
> 
>> I'm looking forward to your response, thanks!
> 
>> best wishes,
> 
>> Christoph
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
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> 
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