Re: [Tex-music] Keyboard edition with modern clefs
Hi Don, 1. No there is no rule. Instead of changing the clef you could use 8va-signs. At the bottom of the upper staff you should not use more than three ledger lines. It gets really kinky collaborating with the lower staff. 2. If I would play this on the piano (or harpsichord or another interchangeable instrument) I would decide whether the phrase belongs to the right or the left hand. But modifying stem direction would be my tool of choice. Even if the LH is at the very bottom of the lower staff, you can direct the stems down. Looks weird, but helps the overview and therefore the music. Whatever helps the music is allowed! Hope I could help you, Philipp (another clarinetist out here) Am 13.05.2012 um 19:03 schrieb Don Simons: This list is so quiet, I hope there's someone out there. I'm making an edition of the lute version of Bach's solo Cello suite #5, so I can play it on harpsichord. The original is in two staves with bass and tenor clef. I want to use only bass and treble clefs. The upper line is centered around middle C and varies up or down by an octave. Are there any guidelines for how to assign notes to staves? The options I can think of are 1. Keep the right-hand notes in the upper staff and change the clef there between bass and treble as needed to avoid too many ledger lines. Is there any rule or precedent about how many ledger lines is too many? As a former clarinetist, I can deal with three. The advantage of this is that staff placement dictates which hand to use to play the notes. Disadvantage is lots of clef changes. 2. Keep the upper clef as treble and let the right-hand notes wander into the lower staff as appropriate. The problem with this that there's no immediate clue about which hand to use, when the upper line goes into the lower staff. I could try to use stem directions for that (up=RH, down-LH). But when the bass notes are very low and there are no other notes in the lower staff, it looks stupid to use down-stems there. ??? --Don Simons --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[Tex-music] Mysterious Line Number Eight
Hello,
I have a problem with PMX: After successfully compiling PMX 2613 and installing
it, it messes up with my sources: It adds a Line (which is ALWAYS Number Eight)
to the Tex File:
$ \setmaxslurs{24}\setmaxinstruments{24}%
my PMX preamble looks like this:
$$$
3 2 4 4 0 6 .25 -4
0 6 16 .2
%
Pianoforte
Clarinetto in Si\ppff b
%
btt
./
Apr
h270m
w190m
\\input musixger\
\\setsign2{-2}\
%
$$$
I would not mind this beautiful line, if it was of any good. But kills my TeX.
What is triggering it, why does it kill TeX (MusixTeX 1.15), how can I avoid
this line or/and its consequences?
Thanks,
Philipp
D-40472
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Re: [Tex-music] Mysterious Line Number Eight
I don't think so. I typed tex FILE in the terminal. That is how I usually do
it.
Am 01.07.2011 um 17:50 schrieb Don Simons:
I think I got it, and sorry I didn't think of this before. Are you running
eTeX?
--Don
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From: tex-music-boun...@tug.org [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On
Behalf Of
Philipp Neukel
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:37 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Mysterious Line Number Eight
I completely reinstalled Musix (including a texhash run) but this is all I
get:
$$$
This is TeX, Version 3.1415926 (TeX Live 2010)
(./panofka.tex
(/usr/local/texlive/2010/../texmf-local/tex/generic/musixtex/musixtex.tex
MusiXTeX(c) 1.15 3 April 2011
maxinstruments=6 max128beams=6 maxgroups=3 maxslurs=6 maxtrills=6
maxoctlines=6)
(/usr/local/texlive/2010/../texmf-local/tex/generic/pmx/pmx.tex
PMX, a Preprocessor for MusiXTeX, Version 2.602a 17 November 10
) maxslurs=24
! No room for a new \dimen .
\ch@ck ...\else \errmessage {No room for a new #3}
\fi
\alloc@ ...\advance \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
\allocationnumber =\count
...
\body ...newskdim \csname e@z\roman@c@ \endcsname
\expandafter
\noexpand@new...
\next -\body
\let \next \iterate \else \let \next \relax \fi \next
\setmaxinstruments ...t@ \maxinstruments \repeat
\expandafter \message
\exp...
l.8 \setmaxslurs{24}\setmaxinstruments{24}
%
?
$$$
I have noticed that for some files the folder structure is altered. For
example:
texmf-local/fonts/tfm/musixtex
seems to be nonexistent. For the new distribution the files are here:
texmf-local/fonts/tfm
Is this of any concern?
Philipp
Am 01.07.2011 um 17:17 schrieb Don Simons:
That's a line I added in PMX 2.6+ specifically to work with MusiXTeX
1.15.
It fails with earlier versions of musixtex. I assume by killing your
compilation you mean that when you remove the line from the TeX file it
then
works OK. That behavior is consistent with not having properly upgraded
to
MusiXTeX 1.15. Please check your system to be sure there aren't any
stray,
older copies of musixtex.tex lurking somewhere higher up in the TeX
search
path, including your working directory. If that doesn't do it, please
report
back.
--Don Simons
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From: tex-music-boun...@tug.org [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On
Behalf Of
Philipp Neukel
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:04 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: [Tex-music] Mysterious Line Number Eight
Hello,
I have a problem with PMX: After successfully compiling PMX 2613 and
installing it, it
messes up with my sources: It adds a Line (which is ALWAYS Number Eight)
to
the Tex
File:
$ \setmaxslurs{24}\setmaxinstruments{24}%
my PMX preamble looks like this:
$$$
3 2 4 4 0 6 .25 -4
0 6 16 .2
%
Pianoforte
Clarinetto in Si\ppff b
%
btt
./
Apr
h270m
w190m
\\input musixger\
\\setsign2{-2}\
%
$$$
I would not mind this beautiful line, if it was of any good. But kills
my
TeX. What is
triggering it, why does it kill TeX (MusixTeX 1.15), how can I avoid
this
line or/and its
consequences?
Thanks,
Philipp
D-40472
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX 2.613 (was RE: all-staves transposition in PMX 2.610)
Hello, I have tried to compile the source on my mac using gcc and gfortran, but I never get through: $$ pmx2613.for:735.72: call getarg(1,jobname,idum) ! May need to replace this w/ next l 1 Error: Too many arguments in call to 'getarg' at (1) pmx2613.for:748.72: call getarg(2,jobname,idum) ! May need to replace this w/ next 1 Error: Too many arguments in call to 'getarg' at (1) $$ Whether I use Mac OS X (10.6.8 + Developer Tools / XCode) or an Ubuntu Live CD (10.10) is of no concern. After cd to the folder I state $ gfortran pmx2613.for What am I doing wrong? I am rather new to compiling myself, so my mistakes could be basic. Thanks, Philipp Am 29.06.2011 um 17:42 schrieb Don Simons: Good catch, Cornelius! I think I have it fixed in the newly posted beta: http://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2613.zip --Don Simons --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note
Thank you for your help so far,
but now it gets really kinky.
This works:
( e2 f+4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )
D /
but I want this:
( e2 f-4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )
D /
which does not work:
--
This is PMX, Version 2.521, 16 May 09
Opening panofka.pmx
Starting first PMX pass
Bar0 Bar 1 Bar 2 Bar 3 Bar 4 Bar 5 Bar 6 Bar 7 Bar 8 Bar
9 Bar 10
Bar 11 Bar 12 Bar 13 Bar 14
WARNING:
Last non-blank character is ?, not /,%
ASCII code: 191
Done with first pass
Starting second PMX pass
Bar0 Bar 1 Bar 2 Bar 3 Bar 4 Bar 5 Bar 6 Bar 7 Bar 8 Bar
9 Bar 10
Bar 11 Bar 12 Bar 13Segmentation fault
--
I am aware of the key signature but will insert it in the tex file and
not in the PMX becaus whenever
I use a tex command in PMX I get the following:
--
Starting first PMX pass
ERROR in line 12, bar 0 Literal TeX string cannot start with 4
backslashes
v
setsign2{-2}\\
^
--
Although I copied exactly your suggestion
\\setsign2{-2}\
into the exact same spot. I tried it with an added % at the end, but
still the same.
Philipp
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[Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note
Hallo Everyone Today I have a rather stupid problem: This is my code: ( e2 f4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D / While the first e2 is in the 5th octave (said in PMX vocabulary) conditioned by the previous line. Everything works just fine, but the following f should not be in the 5th octave but in the 4th. How can I do that? I tried placing - and 4 at various places but it never worked. Sometimes PMX gave an Error, but often it just froze. If I cannot get this done the complete line is in the wrong octave, which is rather suboptimal. Even if I shorten the line to one bar, this bar is in the wrong octave. Is there a way to solve this easily? Philipp D-40472 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note
OK, some code: 3 2 4 4 0 6 .25 -4 0 6 16 .095 % Klavier Klarinette in B % btt ./ Apr h297m w190m % Zeile 1 Takt 0 r1 | rp | r2 r4 r8d g13 zc3 / a14 Dp | ( a2 e8 ) r8 r4 | r2 r4 r8d e14s zc+ / r1 | r2 r4 r8d b14 Dp | ( b2 Dten. f4 ) r / % g23d zc- r4 | rp Ct | d84 zf zb zd r8 r4 r2 Cb | e83 ? zb+ zd ? r8 r4 r2 / ( e24s zc+ g44 ) r4 | rp | f84 ? zb zf+ ? Dp r8 r4 r2 | e84 ? zg ze+ ? r8 r4 r2 / r2 r4 r8d d15 Df | ( d2 Dten. b4 ) r4 | r4 ( c45 Dp Ddol.+0+1.5 e g- ) | r4 (u a44 D g+n D D f D ) / % Zeile 2 Takt 7 a22d ? za+ zc ? r4 | a22d za+ d43 | e2 e- ze+ / r8 Dp (u a85 o.: f e Drit. c a f o: e ) | ( c Dp e a e c e f d ) | ( b d e d b d e d ) / b44 r4 r2 | ( d2 Ddol. b4 c | f44dd a3 g f4 ) r4 / % a22 za+ f22 zf+ | b42 zf+ f43 zas b23 zf zb- / ( c84 D e8 a e ) a8s ze zc ( g84f f e ) D | [u+3 ( d84 zb+ D f84 ) (l c84 zc+ f84 ) ] [l D (u d84 zd+ f84 d f ) ] / ( b24 D b2s ) D | ( c4 D g+ e ) D r / % b23 o a2 o / r8 ( d b+ f ) r ( d b+ ff ) / e2d D e4 D / % Zeile 3 Takt 13 g2 o: e | a f o: / r8 ( d b+ e- ) r ( d b+ e- ) | r ( c a+ e ) r ( cf a+ ds- ) / ( e2 f4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D / % As I wrote: The f4x3 is supposed to be in the 4th octave. Not the one after that. Here is how it freezes: % Zeile 3 Takt 13 g2 o: e | a f o: / r8 ( d b+ e- ) r ( d b+ e- ) | r ( c a+ e ) r ( cf a+ ds- ) / ( e2 f44x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D / % Another Code I tried: ( e2 f4 4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D / And the Error: ERROR in line 35, bar 14 Bar line marker out of place ( e2 f4 4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D / I tried much more. Do I have to quote every single option I tried? Philipp D-40472 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX and Mac OS X
OK all. It works now. I cannot tell you why, because I did not do anything than use it the way it did. And now it works the way it should and I can use PMX perfectly. There are just a few problems left, but they are propably human dependent or else I will write again. THANKS Philipp D-40472 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX and Mac OS X
Thanks for your help - although it did not help YET Slashes at the line end made no difference. Neither did zip/unzip. Yes i am using pmxab with the terminal. The pmx file is written with textedit and TeXworks. Independently tested. Is there actually a way to use pmx with TeXShop? Philipp D-40472 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX and Mac OS X
OK, I got emacs and Smultron. What am I to do now? I now used a completely unopened barsant - newly extracted from the zip-file. Still won't work. Philipp D-40472 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX and Mac OS X
Still won't work. Thanks for your help so far. I am going to spend some time tomorrow with it. What really makes me think in this error: - … Starting second PMX pass Bar 1 Bar 2 Bar 3 Bar 4 Bar 5 Bar 6 Bar 7 Bar 8open: No such file or directory apparent state: unit 12 named… - is the open: No such file or directory part. What is he looking for which is missing? Philipp D-40472 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Changing the notes type font from ordinary notes to percussion notes within PMX
Hello Dieter I am very unfamiliar with PMX for I did it the hard way and learnt MusiXTeX only. It probably was a mistake. But in MusiXTeX the most beautiful percussion notes (and I think the only way to do it) are done by using the extension musixper which has to be loaded at the very beginning of the document. Then you have a macro-set for perc.-notes (can be looked up in musixdoc). It should look like this: \input musixtex \input musixmad \input musixtri \input musixsty \input musixbm \input musixbbm \input musixdbr \input musixlyr \input musixps \input musixper% --- The important line for you \input musixstr Philipp Neukel D-63225 Langen ___ tex-mu...@icking-music-archive.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://mailman.nfit.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/icking-music-archive.org-tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Changing the notes type font from ordinary notes to percussion notes within PMX
Hello there
The problem is, that musixper adds a set of macros for different
Perc notes. So there is no easy way to start or stop perc. You have
to do it by hand and look them up in musixdoc. To write a command for
one of them is actually rather easy, but then you could just use the
original macro.
Philipp Neukel
D-63225 Langen
Am 17.08.2010 um 16:33 schrieb Don Simons:
Here is a crude way to do it:
=
---
\input musixtex
\input musixper
---
2 2 4 4 4 4 0 0
1 1 20 0.08
Perc
Mel
tt
.\
\\setclefsymbol1\drumclef\
\let\qut\qu\def\qu#1{\xqu{#1}\let\qu\qut}\ f44 f \let\qu\kqu\ f f /
c44 e f g /
=
The first form only alters one note; the second is sticky. Perhaps
one of
the TeXperts can concoct a macro \percnote{x} that will in effect
precede
the next note command with x, where x could be any one OR two
letters such
as dc, dh, do, x, ox, ro, tg, k.
--Don Simons
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