Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-29 Thread Bob Tennent
 >|I tested the new binaries contributedby Bob Tennent via
 >|this list on December 2nd 2010.
 >|
 >|the other "tex command problem" is definitely not solved.

I've tested your pmx file with

  :
h297m
w190m
\\setsign2{-2}\
  :

as suggested by Olivier on a MAC using the pmxab binary I contributed
to CTAN and WIMA and it produced a valid .tex file with

\setsign2{-2}%

Bob T.
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Philipp Neukel

I am using Smultron. Could this be a problem?

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Olivier Vogel
Philip, which editor do you use for editing your pmx file?
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Philipp Neukel

OK,
the original problem of "Octave change at first triplet note"
has just been solved:
I tested the new binaries contributedby Bob Tennent via
this list on December 2nd 2010.

the other "tex command problem" is definitely not solved.

Thanks so far.

Philipp
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Don Simons
This is all very bizarre. I have several friends with MAC's and might be
able to do some checking over the weekend, if we haven't resolved this by
then. Meanwhile, can someone on the list with a MAC look into this? We need
to confirm that, starting with Philipp's originally posted source, (1) using

h297m
w190m
\\setsign2{-2}\
in the PMX leads to 
setsign2{-2}\\ in to tex file, and (2) that

( e2 f-4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /

doesn't work.

I suspect there are some funny line-ending issues in the original source
file. I had to copy it from the archive because the one I got thru Windoze
Outlook was folded up very badly.

--Don Simons


>-Original Message-
>From: tex-music-boun...@tug.org [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On
>Behalf Of Philipp Neukel
>Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:51 AM
>To: Werner Icking Music Archive
>Subject: Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note
>
>PMX 2.521 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 on a PPC iMac
>
>I got it from WIMA.
>
>Philipp
>D-40472
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Philipp Neukel

PMX 2.521 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 on a PPC iMac

I got it from WIMA.

Philipp
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Olivier Vogel
>
> PMX doubled the backslashes. It made two at the end, too.
>
>
Which version of PMX are you using? On which OS? Where did you get it?

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Philipp Neukel

My PMX file codes just this:

h297m
w190m
\\setsign2{-2}\
% Zeile 1 Takt 0

I used copy&paste to be sure.

PMX doubled the backslashes. It made two at the end, too.

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Olivier Vogel
2011/1/28 Philipp Neukel 

>
> I am aware of the key signature but will insert it in the tex file and not
> in the PMX becaus whenever
> I use a tex command in PMX I get the following:
>
>
>  ERROR in line 12, bar 0 Literal TeX string cannot start with 4 backslashes
>v
>  setsign2{-2}\\
>
>
You have an error because you are using 4 backslashes, instead of 2.




> Although I copied exactly your suggestion
>
> \\setsign2{-2}\
>
> No, you didn't! Don't add to extra backslashes. Your PMX file must code

 \\setsign2{-2}\

and NOT

setsign2{-2}\

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Philipp Neukel

Thank you for your help so far,

but now it gets really kinky.

This works:

( e2 f+4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /


but I want this:

( e2 f-4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /


which does not work:

--

This is PMX, Version 2.521, 16 May 09
 Opening panofka.pmx

 Starting first PMX pass

  Bar0  Bar 1  Bar 2  Bar 3  Bar 4  Bar 5  Bar 6  Bar 7  Bar 8  Bar  
9  Bar 10

  Bar 11  Bar 12  Bar 13  Bar 14
 WARNING:
 Last non-blank character is "?", not "/,%"
 ASCII code: 191

 Done with first pass


 Starting second PMX pass


  Bar0  Bar 1  Bar 2  Bar 3  Bar 4  Bar 5  Bar 6  Bar 7  Bar 8  Bar  
9  Bar 10

  Bar 11  Bar 12  Bar 13Segmentation fault

--

I am aware of the key signature but will insert it in the tex file and  
not in the PMX becaus whenever

I use a tex command in PMX I get the following:

--

Starting first PMX pass


 ERROR in line 12, bar 0 Literal TeX string cannot start with 4  
backslashes

v
 setsign2{-2}\\
^

--

Although I copied exactly your suggestion

\\setsign2{-2}\

into the exact same spot. I tried it with an added % at the end, but  
still the same.


Philipp
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-28 Thread Don Simons
Philipp--

When I used the initial code you posted, it compiled straight away. When I
replaced Bar 13 with your first proposed fix, it also compiled OK. Olivier's
suggestions should also work OK although neither one would give what I think
you want. I think
( e2 f4-x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | would also give what I think you
want.

Olivier's suggestion about the key signature is also correct.

If you still can't get ( e2 f44x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) to give what you
want, then please let me know what versions you are running. I used 2.603,
musixtex 1.15 beta4, and etex.

--Don Simons

>-Original Message-
>From: tex-music-boun...@tug.org [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On
>Behalf Of Philipp Neukel
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:54 PM
>To: Werner Icking Music Archive
>Subject: Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note
>
>OK, some code:
>
>...


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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-27 Thread Olivier Vogel
Do you simply want this?

( e2 f4x3 ) ( f+ o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D> /

or this?

( e2 f+4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D> /


Another hint: you should add the command \\setsign2{-2}\ in the preamble:

h297m
w190m
\\setsign2{-2}\
% Zeile 1 Takt 0

if you want the Klarinette in B to be played in the right key ;-)

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-27 Thread Philipp Neukel

OK, some code:

3 2 4 4 0 6 .25 -4
0 6 16 .095
%
Klavier
Klarinette in B
%
btt
./
Apr
h297m
w190m
% Zeile 1 Takt 0
r1 | rp | r2 r4 r8d g13 zc3 /
a14 Dp | ( a2 e8 ) r8 r4 | r2 r4 r8d e14s zc+ /
r1 | r2 r4 r8d b14 Dp | ( b2 D"ten." f4 ) r /
%
g23d zc- r4 | rp Ct | d84 zf zb zd r8 r4 r2 Cb | e83 ? zb+ zd ? r8 r4  
r2 /
( e24s zc+ g44 ) r4 | rp | f84 ? zb zf+ ? Dp r8 r4 r2 | e84 ? zg ze+ ?  
r8 r4 r2 /
r2 r4 r8d d15 Df | ( d2 D"ten." b4 ) r4 | r4 ( c45 Dp D"dol."+0+1.5 e  
g- ) | r4 (u a44 D< g+n D< D> f D> ) /

% Zeile 2 Takt 7
a22d ? za+ zc ? r4 | a22d za+ d43 | e2 e- ze+ /
r8 Dp (u a85 o.: f e D"rit." c a f o: e ) | ( c Dp e a e c e f d ) |  
( b d e d b d e d ) /

b44 r4 r2 | ( d2 D"dol." b4 c | f44dd a3 g f4 ) r4 /
%
a22 za+ f22 zf+ | b42 zf+ f43 zas b23 zf zb- /
( c84 D< e8 a e ) a8s ze zc ( g84f f e ) D< | [u+3 ( d84 zb+ D> f84 )  
(l c84 zc+ f84 ) ] [l D> (u d84 zd+ f84 d f ) ] /

( b24 D< b2s ) D< | ( c4 D> g+ e ) D> r /
%
b23 o> a2 o> /
r8 ( d b+ f ) r ( d b+ ff ) /
e2d D< e4 D< /
% Zeile 3 Takt 13
g2 o>: e | a f o: /
r8 ( d b+ e- ) r ( d b+ e- ) | r ( c a+ e ) r ( cf a+ ds- ) /
( e2 f4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /

%

As I wrote: The "f4x3" is supposed to be in the 4th octave. Not the  
one after that.


Here is how it freezes:

% Zeile 3 Takt 13
g2 o>: e | a f o: /
r8 ( d b+ e- ) r ( d b+ e- ) | r ( c a+ e ) r ( cf a+ ds- ) /
( e2 f44x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /

%

Another Code I tried:

( e2 f4 4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /


And the Error:

 ERROR in line 35, bar 14 Bar line marker out of place

 ( e2 f4 4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa  
b ) D> /


I tried much more. Do I have to quote every single option I tried?

Philipp
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-27 Thread Don Simons
Hi, Philipp--

Glad to see someone using the rather obscure options "o.:" and "GW" :-)

The following code gives what I think you want (except for the UGLY slur; I
assume you used Ap). Didn't you try putting the 4 right after the f with no
space? If you did that and still get the error, then Cornelius is right; you
should post minimal code that reproduces the error.

--Don Simons

=
1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
1 1 20 0

t
.\
( e25 f4x3 ) ( f4 o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) D> /
==
 

>-Original Message-
>From: tex-music-boun...@tug.org [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On
>Behalf Of Philipp Neukel
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:21 PM
>To: Werner Icking Music Archive
>Subject: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note
>
>Hallo Everyone
>
>Today I have a rather stupid problem:
>
>This is my code:
>
>( e2 f4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )
>D> /
>
>While the first e2 is in the 5th octave (said in PMX vocabulary)
>conditioned
>by the previous line.
>
>Everything works just fine, but the following f should not be in the
>5th octave
>but in the 4th. How can I do that? I tried placing "-" and "4" at
>various places but
>it never worked. Sometimes PMX gave an Error, but often it just froze.
>If I cannot
>get this done the complete line is in the wrong octave, which is
>rather suboptimal.
>Even if I shorten the line to one bar, this bar is in the wrong octave.
>
>Is there a way to solve this easily?
>
>Philipp
>D-40472
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-27 Thread Cornelius C. Noack

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Philipp Neukel wrote:

Hallo Everyone

Today I have a rather stupid problem:

This is my code:

( e2 f4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b ) 
D> /


While the first e2 is in the 5th octave (said in PMX vocabulary) 
conditioned

by the previous line.

(cut)


Can you give the usual "minimal working example"? Not only am I too 
busy with other things to produce the preamble for you; but just 
possibly the error starts there ...


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[Tex-music] PMX: Octave change at first triplet note

2011-01-27 Thread Philipp Neukel

Hallo Everyone

Today I have a rather stupid problem:

This is my code:

( e2 f4x3 ) ( f o.: g a4x3 b c o: ) | d4 c8 D> b ( b2 oT0 G2m2Wa b )  
D> /


While the first e2 is in the 5th octave (said in PMX vocabulary)  
conditioned

by the previous line.

Everything works just fine, but the following f should not be in the  
5th octave
but in the 4th. How can I do that? I tried placing "-" and "4" at  
various places but
it never worked. Sometimes PMX gave an Error, but often it just froze.  
If I cannot
get this done the complete line is in the wrong octave, which is  
rather suboptimal.

Even if I shorten the line to one bar, this bar is in the wrong octave.

Is there a way to solve this easily?

Philipp
D-40472

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