Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
Thank you, Hermann and Jean-Pierre for your helpful ideas with the macros!
White notation works perfect now, and the trick with covering the whole note is
a practical solution, too!
Christoph
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:41:47 +0200
From: Hermann Hinsch hermann.hin...@urz.uni-heidelberg.de
To: Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
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Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 17:27:02 schrieb Christoph Prendl:
Dear MusiXTeX community!
I'm using MusiXTeX together with LaTeX for my doctoral thesis in musicology
for about a year now and consider it the absolute best tool available for
doing transcriptions of 17th century treatises with a lot of examples in
staff notation.
While working with MusiXTeX, a few questions arose I couldn't answer with
the documentation. I thought I collect them to present them to all of you,
maybe someone has an idea how to solve them. I would be very grateful for
any comments or help.
1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for example
in french baroque music), where all note heads are white? If there would be
a possibility to write notes with invisible note heads (maybe in a similar
way as the note heads in musixper), one could combine them with the
non-spacing white note heads (\znh).
Some years ago I learned from Don Simons how to use white notes in a M-Tx-
source
\\makeatletter\
\\def\opennotes{\
\\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\
\\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\
\\let\qs\ds@oup\
\\let\ds@oup\qp\
%
\\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hupt\hup\
\\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\
\\let\zqu\zhu\
\\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\
\\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\
\\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\
\\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\pause\let\pause\P
Ause}\
%
\\def\closednotes{\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\
\\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hup\hupt\
\\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\qs\qst\let\hpause\hpau
set\let\pause\pauset}\
\\makeatother\
% Usage:
\\\opennotes\ to switch to white note \\\closednotes\ to switch back to
black
notes
You have to enter the notes with half the value you to see printed
Hermann Hinsch
2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head
instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g.
modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis?
3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up?
4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads?
It could be very useful when writing ligatures in 17th and 18th century
gregorian chant. The result can be obtained with the offset-commands, but
it takes more time and effort. I'm aware there could be a problem with the
distances, since the breve note head is wider than others.
I'm looking forward to your response, thanks!
best wishes,
Christoph
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 07:23:47 -0700
From: Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com
To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
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Thanks, Hermann! But full disclosure: These macros came directly from Werner
Icking.
I used them when making my edition of the complete works of Bernardo
Storace:
http://www.pchpublish.com/gif/bspasap6.gif
--Don Simons
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Hermann
Hinsch
Sent: Wednesday, August
Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 17:27:02 schrieb Christoph Prendl:
Dear MusiXTeX community!
I'm using MusiXTeX together with LaTeX for my doctoral thesis in musicology
for about a year now and consider it the absolute best tool available for
doing transcriptions of 17th century treatises with a lot of examples in
staff notation.
While working with MusiXTeX, a few questions arose I couldn't answer with
the documentation. I thought I collect them to present them to all of you,
maybe someone has an idea how to solve them. I would be very grateful for
any comments or help.
1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for example
in french baroque music), where all note heads are white? If there would be
a possibility to write notes with invisible note heads (maybe in a similar
way as the note heads in musixper), one could combine them with the
non-spacing white note heads (\znh).
Some years ago I learned from Don Simons how to use white notes in a M-Tx-
source
\\makeatletter\
\\def\opennotes{\
\\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\
\\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\
\\let\qs\ds@oup\
\\let\ds@oup\qp\
%
\\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hupt\hup\
\\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\
\\let\zqu\zhu\
\\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\
\\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\
\\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\
\\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\pause\let\pause\P
Ause}\
%
\\def\closednotes{\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\
\\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hup\hupt\
\\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\qs\qst\let\hpause\hpau
set\let\pause\pauset}\
\\makeatother\
% Usage:
\\\opennotes\ to switch to white note \\\closednotes\ to switch back to black
notes
You have to enter the notes with half the value you to see printed
Hermann Hinsch
2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head
instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g.
modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis?
3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up?
4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads?
It could be very useful when writing ligatures in 17th and 18th century
gregorian chant. The result can be obtained with the offset-commands, but
it takes more time and effort. I'm aware there could be a problem with the
distances, since the breve note head is wider than others.
I'm looking forward to your response, thanks!
best wishes,
Christoph
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Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
Thanks, Hermann! But full disclosure: These macros came directly from Werner
Icking.
I used them when making my edition of the complete works of Bernardo
Storace:
http://www.pchpublish.com/gif/bspasap6.gif
--Don Simons
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Hermann
Hinsch
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:42 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 17:27:02 schrieb Christoph Prendl:
Dear MusiXTeX community!
I'm using MusiXTeX together with LaTeX for my doctoral thesis in
musicology
for about a year now and consider it the absolute best tool available for
doing transcriptions of 17th century treatises with a lot of examples in
staff notation.
While working with MusiXTeX, a few questions arose I couldn't answer with
the documentation. I thought I collect them to present them to all of you,
maybe someone has an idea how to solve them. I would be very grateful for
any comments or help.
1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for
example
in french baroque music), where all note heads are white? If there would
be
a possibility to write notes with invisible note heads (maybe in a similar
way as the note heads in musixper), one could combine them with the
non-spacing white note heads (\znh).
Some years ago I learned from Don Simons how to use white notes in a
M-Tx-source
\\makeatletter\ file:///\\makeatletter\
\\def\opennotes{\ file:///\\def\opennotes%7b\
\\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\
file:///\\let\qsymt\q@symbol\let\dsoupt\ds@oup\let\qst\qs\
\\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\ file:///\\let\q@symbol\h@symbol\
\\let\qs\ds@oup\ file:///\\let\qs\ds@oup\
\\let\ds@oup\qp\ file:///\\let\ds@oup\qp\
%
\\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hupt\hup\
file:///\\let\zqut\zqu\let\hlt\hl\let\hut\hu\let\hat\ha\let\hlpt\hlp\let\hu
pt\hup\
\\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\
file:///\\let\zhpt\zhp\let\zhlt\zhl\let\zhut\zhu\let\zht\zh\let\qpt\qp\
\\let\zqu\zhu\ file:///\\let\zqu\zhu\
\\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\ file:///\\let\hl\wh\let\hu\wh\
\\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\
file:///\\let\hlp\whp\let\hup\whp\let\zhp\zwp\
\\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\
file:///\\let\zhl\zwh\let\zhu\zwh\let\zh\zwh\
\\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\pause\let\pau
se\PAuse}\
file:///\\let\qp\hpause\let\hpauset\hpause\let\hpause\pause\let\pauset\paus
e\let\pause\PAuse%7d\
%
\\def\closednotes{\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\
file:///\\def\closednotes%7b\let\q@symbol\qsymt\let\ds@oup\dsoupt\
\\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hup\hupt\
file:///\\let\zqu\zqut\let\hl\hlt\let\hu\hut\let\ha\hat\let\hlp\hlpt\let\hu
p\hupt\
\\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\qs\qst\le
t\hpause\hpauset\let\pause\pauset}\
file:///\\let\zhp\zhpt\let\zhl\zhlt\let\zhu\zhut\let\zh\zht\let\qp\qpt\let\
qs\qst\let\hpause\hpauset\let\pause\pauset%7d\
\\makeatother\ file:///\\makeatother\
% Usage:
\\\opennotes\ file:///\\\opennotes\ to switch to white note
\\\closednotes\ file:///\\\closednotes\ to switch back to black notes
You have to enter the notes with half the value you to see printed
Hermann Hinsch
2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head
instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g.
modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis?
3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up?
4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads?
It could be very useful when writing ligatures in 17th and 18th century
gregorian chant. The result can be obtained with the offset-commands, but
it takes more time and effort. I'm aware there could be a problem with the
distances, since the breve note head is wider than others.
I'm looking forward to your response, thanks!
best wishes,
Christoph
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[Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
Dear MusiXTeX community! I'm using MusiXTeX together with LaTeX for my doctoral thesis in musicology for about a year now and consider it the absolute best tool available for doing transcriptions of 17th century treatises with a lot of examples in staff notation. While working with MusiXTeX, a few questions arose I couldn't answer with the documentation. I thought I collect them to present them to all of you, maybe someone has an idea how to solve them. I would be very grateful for any comments or help. 1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for example in french baroque music), where all note heads are white? If there would be a possibility to write notes with invisible note heads (maybe in a similar way as the note heads in musixper), one could combine them with the non-spacing white note heads (\znh). 2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g. modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis? 3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up? 4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads? It could be very useful when writing ligatures in 17th and 18th century gregorian chant. The result can be obtained with the offset-commands, but it takes more time and effort. I'm aware there could be a problem with the distances, since the breve note head is wider than others. I'm looking forward to your response, thanks! best wishes, Christoph --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Some questions about MusiXTeX typography
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, Christoph Prendl wrote:
1. How is it possible to write white notation (as commonly used for
example in french baroque music), where all note heads are white?
If you mean beamed notes you have \hbbeam number instead of qbbeam
number
If there would be a possibility to write notes with invisible note
heads (maybe in a similar way as the note heads in musixper), one
could combine them with the non-spacing white note heads (\znh).
If the note head is invisible what remains visible? :-)
2. Is there anyone who feels the need for having a black whole note head
instead of the slightly smaller quarter note head (\nq) to write e.g.
modern notation gregorian chant or music theory analysis?
Does \znq h\roffset{.1}{\znq h}\wh h do the job?
3. Is it possible to have a maxima with a stem up?
Please provide the source with a usual maxima.
4. Why is the breve not included in the Shifted non-spacing note heads?
Please provide the source with a usual breve.
Jean-Pierre Coulon
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