Re: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
Brilliant! It fixes the problem with or without Av. I would never have found
this myself. Thank you, Andre!!!
--Don
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> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-
> bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org] On Behalf Of Andre Van
> Ryckeghem
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 6:53 AM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
>
> I do not know if this could work, but adding a skip before the macro that
start
> on line 45 (uneqprob.tex) moves the system down
>
> \vskip\parskip\hbox to\hsize{\vbox{\hsize=.70\hsize% \contpiece
>
> Andre
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Don Simons
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 6:08 AM
> To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
> Subject: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
>
> I'm getting close to releasing a version of PMX that enables arbitrary
blank
> gaps at the beginning or middle of any staff, relying on TeXniques
designed
> by Olivier Vogel and expanded by Bob Tennet. In modifying PMX it hasn't
> been at all easy to account for all the possibilities involving movement
> breaks, page breaks, bar numbering, etc., but now I have most of the
> horizontal spacing issues worked out. However, there are still some
> problems with vertical spacing, illustrated with the attached plain
MusiXTeX
> file eqprob.tex. It uses Olivier's basic method for shortening a line by
putting
> it into a \hbox. The file also uses the long-standing PMX method "Av" to
try
> to get equal vertical spacing. Av works by including very long,
equal-length
> vertical struts in all lines. This in effect gives all systems equal
heights which
> add up to more space than available on one page, so when forced into the
> actual vertical space in the page, they all end of with the same amount of
> blank vertical space being clipped off, leaving equal vertical space
between
> the bottom line of one system and the top line of the next. If you compile
> the example, you'll see that the method breaks down for the shortened
> system in line 4, probably related to the fact that the \hbox is handled
> differently during the vertical squeezing/trimming process.
>
> The other file uneqprob.tex has all of the struts removed, and represents
> what PMX would give without Av. Now the space above line 4 comes out too
> small.
>
> I'd be very grateful if someone could figure out a general way to get the
> \hbox'ed line handled the same way as the other lines in both cases,
> restoring the equal vertical spacing.
>
> I did find that I could manually reduce or expand the size of the unequal
gap
> using \spread{...} with a positive or negative argument. This command,
> defined in pmx.tex, adds a negative \vskip right before the next
\contpiece.
> But it takes trial and error to find the right value of the argument, so
it's not
> at all the ideal solution.
>
> --Don
>
>
>
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Re: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
I do not know if this could work, but adding a skip before the macro that
start on line 45 (uneqprob.tex) moves the system down
\vskip\parskip\hbox to\hsize{\vbox{\hsize=.70\hsize%
\contpiece
Andre
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Don Simons
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 6:08 AM
To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
Subject: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
I'm getting close to releasing a version of PMX that enables arbitrary blank
gaps at the beginning or middle of any staff, relying on TeXniques designed
by Olivier Vogel and expanded by Bob Tennet. In modifying PMX it hasn't been
at all easy to account for all the possibilities involving movement breaks,
page breaks, bar numbering, etc., but now I have most of the horizontal
spacing issues worked out. However, there are still some problems with
vertical spacing, illustrated with the attached plain MusiXTeX file
eqprob.tex. It uses Olivier's basic method for shortening a line by putting
it into a \hbox. The file also uses the long-standing PMX method "Av" to try
to get equal vertical spacing. Av works by including very long, equal-length
vertical struts in all lines. This in effect gives all systems equal heights
which add up to more space than available on one page, so when forced into
the actual vertical space in the page, they all end of with the same amount
of blank vertical space being clipped off, leaving equal vertical space
between the bottom line of one system and the top line of the next. If you
compile the example, you'll see that the method breaks down for the
shortened system in line 4, probably related to the fact that the \hbox is
handled differently during the vertical squeezing/trimming process.
The other file uneqprob.tex has all of the struts removed, and represents
what PMX would give without Av. Now the space above line 4 comes out too
small.
I'd be very grateful if someone could figure out a general way to get the
\hbox'ed line handled the same way as the other lines in both cases,
restoring the equal vertical spacing.
I did find that I could manually reduce or expand the size of the unequal
gap using \spread{...} with a positive or negative argument. This command,
defined in pmx.tex, adds a negative \vskip right before the next \contpiece.
But it takes trial and error to find the right value of the argument, so
it's not at all the ideal solution.
--Don
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Re: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
Oops! I should have said "...arbitrary blank gaps in the middle or at the
end of any staff". (For gaps at the beginning, I'm still banking on someone
fixing musixflx so it doesn't crash when you use too big of an indent.)
--Don
> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-
> bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org] On Behalf Of Don Simons
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 9:09 PM
> To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
> Subject: [Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
>
> I'm getting close to releasing a version of PMX that enables arbitrary
blank
> gaps at the beginning or middle of any staff, relying on TeXniques
designed
> by Olivier Vogel and expanded by Bob Tennet. In modifying PMX it hasn't
> been at all easy to account for all the possibilities involving movement
> breaks, page breaks, bar numbering, etc., but now I have most of the
> horizontal spacing issues worked out. However, there are still some
> problems with vertical spacing, illustrated with the attached plain
MusiXTeX
> file eqprob.tex. It uses Olivier's basic method for shortening a line by
putting
> it into a \hbox. The file also uses the long-standing PMX method "Av" to
try
> to get equal vertical spacing. Av works by including very long,
equal-length
> vertical struts in all lines. This in effect gives all systems equal
heights which
> add up to more space than available on one page, so when forced into the
> actual vertical space in the page, they all end of with the same amount of
> blank vertical space being clipped off, leaving equal vertical space
between
> the bottom line of one system and the top line of the next. If you compile
> the example, you'll see that the method breaks down for the shortened
> system in line 4, probably related to the fact that the \hbox is handled
> differently during the vertical squeezing/trimming process.
>
> The other file uneqprob.tex has all of the struts removed, and represents
> what PMX would give without Av. Now the space above line 4 comes out too
> small.
>
> I'd be very grateful if someone could figure out a general way to get the
> \hbox'ed line handled the same way as the other lines in both cases,
> restoring the equal vertical spacing.
>
> I did find that I could manually reduce or expand the size of the unequal
gap
> using \spread{...} with a positive or negative argument. This command,
> defined in pmx.tex, adds a negative \vskip right before the next
\contpiece.
> But it takes trial and error to find the right value of the argument, so
it's not
> at all the ideal solution.
>
> --Don
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[Tex-music] TeXperts: Help!
I'm getting close to releasing a version of PMX that enables arbitrary blank
gaps at the beginning or middle of any staff, relying on TeXniques designed
by Olivier Vogel and expanded by Bob Tennet. In modifying PMX it hasn't been
at all easy to account for all the possibilities involving movement breaks,
page breaks, bar numbering, etc., but now I have most of the horizontal
spacing issues worked out. However, there are still some problems with
vertical spacing, illustrated with the attached plain MusiXTeX file
eqprob.tex. It uses Olivier's basic method for shortening a line by putting
it into a \hbox. The file also uses the long-standing PMX method "Av" to try
to get equal vertical spacing. Av works by including very long, equal-length
vertical struts in all lines. This in effect gives all systems equal heights
which add up to more space than available on one page, so when forced into
the actual vertical space in the page, they all end of with the same amount
of blank vertical space being clipped off, leaving equal vertical space
between the bottom line of one system and the top line of the next. If you
compile the example, you'll see that the method breaks down for the
shortened system in line 4, probably related to the fact that the \hbox is
handled differently during the vertical squeezing/trimming process.
The other file uneqprob.tex has all of the struts removed, and represents
what PMX would give without Av. Now the space above line 4 comes out too
small.
I'd be very grateful if someone could figure out a general way to get the
\hbox'ed line handled the same way as the other lines in both cases,
restoring the equal vertical spacing.
I did find that I could manually reduce or expand the size of the unequal
gap using \spread{...} with a positive or negative argument. This command,
defined in pmx.tex, adds a negative \vskip right before the next \contpiece.
But it takes trial and error to find the right value of the argument, so
it's not at all the ideal solution.
--Don
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