Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-18 Thread Xavier Moch

Thanks all !

There are many advantages in using tex (or etex) rather than pdflatex ; but as 
a consequence, I've got a question with TeX...

Does anyone 
know whether it is possible to activate the ansinew encoding with TeX 
(as a LaTeX command, \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} will probably not 
work) ? In french, we keep having difficulties with words like Flûte. For 
some reasons, I'd rather write it Flûte (ANSI-encoding) and not Fl\^{u}te.

Xavier

 From: dsim...@roadrunner.com
 To: tex-music@tug.org
 Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:09:16 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling
 
 Robin Fairbairns wrote
 
 as Jill-Jênn said: use pdftex rather than pdflatex.
 
 As I've pointed out many times in the MusiXTeX and PMX manuals and in
 postings to this list, there is an issue with this approach. Because Type K
 postscript slurs look better than the default font-based slurs, all PMX
 development in recent years has assumed that Type K slurs had been activated
 (although for historical reasons they are not the default). But PDFTEX DOES
 NOT PROCESS TYPE K POSTSCRIPT SLURS. The preferred approach is therefore
 etex = musixflx = etex = dvips = gsview and you can make a pdf from
 within gsview. The extra steps are transparent if you use a batch file, and
 even if they weren't, it would be worthwhile to avoid the occasionally
 bizarre shapes and other limitations of font-based slurs.
 
 --Don Simons
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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-18 Thread Robin Fairbairns
Xavier Moch xa...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thanks all !
 
 There are many advantages in using tex (or etex) rather than pdflatex ;
 but as a consequence, I've got a question with TeX...
 
 Does anyone know whether it is possible to activate the ansinew encoding
 with TeX (as a LaTeX command, \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} will probably
 not work) ? In french, we keep having difficulties with words like
 Fl�te. For some reasons, I'd rather write it Fl�te (ANSI-encoding) and
 not Fl\^{u}te.

that's not an ansi encoding, nor yet is it the slightly tweaked ansinew
-- i would guess it's utf-8 (widnoze tends to use unicode nowadays, and
most current unices can do so).

  \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

may well deal with the problem -- it won't if the file contains a
mixture of old (ansinew) stuff and current utf-8 -- but give it a
try anyway.

robin the latex nerd
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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-18 Thread David Allsopp
Robin Fairbairns wrote:
 Xavier Moch xa...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks all !
 
  There are many advantages in using tex (or etex) rather than pdflatex
  ; but as a consequence, I've got a question with TeX...
 
  Does anyone know whether it is possible to activate the ansinew
  encoding with TeX (as a LaTeX command, \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc}
  will probably not work) ? In french, we keep having difficulties with
  words like Fl te. For some reasons, I'd rather write it Fl te
  (ANSI-encoding) and not Fl\^{u}te.
 
 that's not an ansi encoding,

Yes it is - û is just ANSI character 251.

 nor yet is it the slightly tweaked ansinew
 -- i would guess it's utf-8 (widnoze tends to use unicode nowadays, and
 most current unices can do so).
 
   \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
 
 may well deal with the problem -- it won't if the file contains a mixture
 of old (ansinew) stuff and current utf-8 -- but give it a try anyway.

Xavier was asking how to achieve this in Plain TeX!

Assuming you really do mean ANSI encoding (i.e. 8 bit) then you'll need to map 
the characters you want as active characters to the Plain TeX equivalent 
sequences (LaTeX's font/input encoding mechanisms do this behind the scenes). 
For Flûte you'd say

\catcode`û=\active
\defû{\^{u}}
Flûte
\bye

(making sure that your text editor definitely saves an ANSI, not UTF-8 or other 
Unicode file - Windows Notepad can definitely do that for you). I don't know if 
someone has come up with wrappers for LaTeX's input encodings in Plain TeX but 
if you look in tex/latex/base/ansinew.def then you will see all of the mappings 
for characters defined there and you could come up with a macro for 
\DeclareInputText

I haven't investigated in detail, but does this archived post help - 
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmxtricks/accents.pdf


David

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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-18 Thread Robin Fairbairns
David Allsopp dra-n...@metastack.com wrote:

 Robin Fairbairns wrote:
   Does anyone know whether it is possible to activate the ansinew
   encoding with TeX (as a LaTeX command, \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc}
   will probably not work) ? In french, we keep having difficulties with
   words like Fl te. For some reasons, I'd rather write it Fl te
   (ANSI-encoding) and not Fl\^{u}te.
  
  that's not an ansi encoding,
 
 Yes it is - û is just ANSI character 251.

however, the token that appeared in my mail was indeed an utf-8
sequence rather than a single octet.

maybe there's something converting to utf-8 when forwarding to me: seems
unlikely (since i'm postmaster here, i would know), but it is possible,
i guess.

of course things like fl\^ute kill hyphenation, but unless the score is
accompanied by an essay, that's unlikely to be an issue.  latex gets
around that.

 Xavier was asking how to achieve this in Plain TeX!

doh!  sorry for the mis-reading.

r

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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-18 Thread Xavier Moch

Thank you everyone !

Robin : you're right, I'm writing mails with UTF-8 encoding ; but as David 
pointed out, I'd like TEX to read (Windows') ANSINEW encoding.
I guess I try \\input plainenc\relax\inputencoding{cp850}\ ; let's hope cp850 
works in my case...

Xavier
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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-17 Thread Jill-Jênn Vie
Hi!

Le 17 mai 2011 à 14:57, Xavier Moch a écrit :

 What shall I do with file.tex ? Since I used (very shortly) MusiXTeX before I 
 dowloaded PMX (which changed my life... or at least the time spent to write 
 music), I supposed I had to do :
 
 pdflatex file

pdftex file, rather!

-- 
Jill-Jênn
http://www.jill-jenn.net


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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-17 Thread Robin Fairbairns
Xavier Moch xa...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Something strange happens since I began to use PMX : the way I get from
 .tex to .pdf. Explanations :
 
 Assume I have a .pmx file, named file.pmx. By executing pmxab file, I
 obtain file.tex. That's great, no problem with that.
 What shall I do with file.tex ? Since I used (very shortly) MusiXTeX
 before I dowloaded PMX (which changed my life... or at least the time
 spent to write music), I supposed I had to do :
 
 pdflatex file
 musixflx file
 pdflatex file
 
 But pdflatex gives the error :
 ! Undefined control sequence \rm

boggle.  there exist classes that suppress that command, but article
doesn't.  i don't understand what's happened to \rm, but it doesn't
really matter

 Moreover, it's the same with \nopagenumbers and \bye

all three are plain tex commands, and you asked for latex.  (\rm is
retained in standard latex, including article, to help people compile
their old documents ... but people haven't learned the new commands,
even though new in this context means since 1994...)

as Jill-Jênn said: use pdftex rather than pdflatex.

robin

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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-17 Thread Don Simons
Robin Fairbairns wrote

as Jill-Jênn said: use pdftex rather than pdflatex.

As I've pointed out many times in the MusiXTeX and PMX manuals and in
postings to this list, there is an issue with this approach. Because Type K
postscript slurs look better than the default font-based slurs, all PMX
development in recent years has assumed that Type K slurs had been activated
(although for historical reasons they are not the default). But PDFTEX DOES
NOT PROCESS TYPE K POSTSCRIPT SLURS. The preferred approach is therefore
etex = musixflx = etex = dvips = gsview and you can make a pdf from
within gsview. The extra steps are transparent if you use a batch file, and
even if they weren't, it would be worthwhile to avoid the occasionally
bizarre shapes and other limitations of font-based slurs.

--Don Simons



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Re: [Tex-music] TeX Compiling

2011-05-17 Thread Bob Tennent
 | MiKTeX 2.9 with TeXWorks (includes MusiXTeX package ; downloaded in April)

Try

musixtex file

at the command line.

Bob T.

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