Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

2016-08-09 Thread Dieter

Hi Don,

I apologize. My last observation was nonsense. I was turning the screw 
on the wrong tuplet.


Now it looks almost good. Only the c and the d in the right hand are 
overlapping.


Is there any fine-tuning of horizontal note shift apart from "r" or "e".

Regards,
Dieter

% Bar 66
L18
Rd
h
Coda
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3n-8 zd+ b+ { a a2e }+0-1 | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b {u c c2e }+0-1 | //
r2b d24x3nf e fs | /


Am 08.08.2016 um 17:25 schrieb Don Simons:

By “move” I’m guessing you mean “move vertically”. This may be another RTFM,
but with some amplification. (I have to RTFM myself for questions like this,
to refresh my memory about what I did). Evidently the bracket moves up or
down with the number. And to move the number, you need to put one or two
signed integers right after the “n”. So I’m thinking g22x3n-3fs-4 may do
what you want. However, if you also want the number to come out above the
bracket, I'm not sure PMX alone can do that.

--Don

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:11 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

Hi Don,

I have another interesting tuplet case.

% Bar 66
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3nfs-4 zd+ b+ { a a2e } | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b { c c2e } | //
r2b d24x3n-2 e fs | /



I cannot move the lower left 3-bracket, neither with g22x3nf - something or
g22x3nfs - something.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:
No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about which
dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was automagically moved
to the left because of the A in the chord. You could take advantage of that
and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the g dot 1 notehead width to the
right. That would line them up like  Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously
not a very good long-term solution. Stay tuned.
  
--Don




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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

2016-08-08 Thread Don Simons
By “move” I’m guessing you mean “move vertically”. This may be another RTFM,
but with some amplification. (I have to RTFM myself for questions like this,
to refresh my memory about what I did). Evidently the bracket moves up or
down with the number. And to move the number, you need to put one or two
signed integers right after the “n”. So I’m thinking g22x3n-3fs-4 may do
what you want. However, if you also want the number to come out above the
bracket, I'm not sure PMX alone can do that.

--Don

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:11 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

Hi Don,

I have another interesting tuplet case.

% Bar 66
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3nfs-4 zd+ b+ { a a2e } | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b { c c2e } | //
r2b d24x3n-2 e fs | /



I cannot move the lower left 3-bracket, neither with g22x3nf - something or
g22x3nfs - something.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:
No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about which
dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was automagically moved
to the left because of the A in the chord. You could take advantage of that
and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the g dot 1 notehead width to the
right. That would line them up like  Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously
not a very good long-term solution. Stay tuned.
 
--Don



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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

2016-08-08 Thread Dieter

Hi Don,

I have another interesting tuplet case.

% Bar 66
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3nfs-4 zd+ b+ { a a2e } | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b { c c2e } | //
r2b d24x3n-2 e fs | /



I cannot move the lower left 3-bracket, neither with g22x3nf - something 
or g22x3nfs - something.


Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:


No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about 
which dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was 
automagically moved to the left because of the A in the chord. You 
could take advantage of that and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the 
g dot 1 notehead width to the right. That would line them up like 
 Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously not a very good long-term 
solution. Stay tuned.


--Don



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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

2016-08-08 Thread Dieter

Thanks! Your work-around works.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:


No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about 
which dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was 
automagically moved to the left because of the A in the chord. You 
could take advantage of that and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the 
g dot 1 notehead width to the right. That would line them up like 
 Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously not a very good long-term 
solution. Stay tuned.


--Don



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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

2016-08-06 Thread Don Simons
No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about which 
dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was automagically moved to 
the left because of the A in the chord. You could take advantage of that and 
enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the g dot 1 notehead width to the right. That 
would line them up like  Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously not a very 
good long-term solution. Stay tuned.

 

--Don

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:34 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
Subject: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

 

Hi Don, 

some more observations on moving dots.

 

%Software : PMX
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d zad zcd | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


initial situation: g-dot partially covered by a-note
===

%Software : PMX
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d-2 zad zcd | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


looks like the a-dot has moved, but I wanted to move the g-dot
===
%Software : PMX
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d zad-2 zcd | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


looks like the g-dot has moved


%Software : PMX
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d zad zcd-2 | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


look like the c-dot has moved over the a dot
===

Do you have an explanation?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter

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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

2016-08-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Coulon
In my view we should have 3 vertically-aligned  dots at notes N, b and 
d.


Bye,

Jean-Pierre Coulon
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