[Texascavers] FW: Karst Information Portal

2007-10-12 Thread Geary Schindel
Subject: Karst Information Portal

 

Folks,

 

I don't know if you've had a chance to check out the new Karst
Information Portal sponsored by USF and NCKRI (and others) but you
should check it out and register.  It is developing momentum and I think
will be (is) a great asset to the karst community including researchers,
land and cave managers, consultants, students, cavers, the public, etc.
I understand that USF is highly committed to the project and has hired a
person to specifically manage the information site.  It is very much
like a coop, the more folks that are involved, the better the site will
be for everyone.  

 

See the link below.

 

http://www.karstportal.org/public/index.cfm

 

 

Geary Schindel



[Nmcaver] Local news story

2007-10-12 Thread caver
http://www.kwes.com/global/story.asp?s=7203303


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[Texascavers] FW: Distinguished Lecturer Series Friday, November 16, 2005

2007-10-12 Thread Geary Schindel
 

Sorry, I think this might have gotten bounced as I accidentally included
the attachment.  If you would like to see the flyer, let me know and
I'll email it directly,

 

Geary

 

Folks,

 

The Edwards Aquifer Authority, along with a number of other
organizations, hosts two Distinguished Lectures each year.  I'm pleased
to announce that the next scheduled lecture is by Dr. E. Calvin
Alexander, Jr, Professor of Geology and Geophysics at the University of
Minnesota.  

 

The workshop will cover a wide range of issue focusing on investigation
and managing karst and karst aquifers and human interactions.  The
presentation will occur at the Southwest Research Institute in San
Antonio on Friday, November 16, 2007 and will start at 9:00 AM and end
around 4:00 PM.  These lectures have been very popular over the last
year and reservations are required.  Cost for the lecture is $20 and
includes lunch.  Please contact Ms. Elaine Martinez with the Edwards
Aquifer Authority for reservations.  Her phone number is 210-222-2204 or
you can email here at emarti...@edwardsaquifer.org.The lecture is
limited to the first 90 people that register.

 

Hope you can join us for another outstanding lecture.

 

Sincerely,  

 

Geary M. Schindel, P.G.

Chief Technical Officer

Edwards Aquifer Authority

 

 



[Nmcaver] Fwd:

2007-10-12 Thread James (Jim) C. Sturrock


Here is the latest of the collapse pits released by the HIRISE 
camera from Mars.  The attachment is a shot of the pit and the link 
is to the overall picture from HIRISE.  They have enhanced the small 
picture to show features in the collapse.  --Jim





http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_005414_1735



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[Texascavers] OT - the new diesel Cherokee - part 3

2007-10-12 Thread David Locklear
In the November issue of Diesel Power magazine is a detailed
article on the new diesel Cherokee.

It provides some of the specs
that I was unable to dig up. The testers gave it the thumbs up,
but indicated they only got 17 mpg on the city.


There is also a picture of a huge Chevrolet 4x4 called the TopKick.
It is as big as the MXT.

Here it is:

http://images.traderonline.com/img/4/dealer/4489584/89707590_6.jpg

The rear tires are called super singles, on the industrial size rigs.

That rig is $ 80,000. I believe a company called Monroe Trucks sells
it.

While those big rigs look like a lot of fun, there are a lot of narrow Jeep
size trails in the Sierra Madres that it won't go. However, it should handle
the big muddy logging roads with ease, and cross some of the streams with
little excitement.

Does anybody have any river fording stories in the Sierra Madres?Rio
Purificacion?Or the Rio Tigre?  or something else.

David Locklear

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RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis County

2007-10-12 Thread dirtdoc
Hi Louise:

Barry Beck's dog and I tried to fit in the same corkscrew in Midnight - - - - 
- -

You sure that was not Crooked Thumb and Woola? I'm quite sure you were on the 
same rainy Triangle weekend trip where the two dogs surprised some of the 
locals - .

Thumb was trained to wait until I was positioned in a chimney and then to climb 
up over me.  Woola, ever the follower, was typically close behind.

Ahead I heard:

G-- D---!!  There's a DOG in here!!

H -ly Sht!!

Here comes another one!!

Turned out it was some friends of Doc whats-his-name, the owner.

That was also the same trip where Everege showed up with 2 cases of $1 bottles 
of  remainder wine from his local discount emporium.  We had a nose-in truck 
roundup at the triangle, sitting on the hoods, sheltered by a motley assortment 
of tarps.  I remember that you showed up in your V W to join the festivities, 
and later crawled under Tortuga for a dry spot to sleep ---..

Dirt Doc




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RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis County

2007-10-12 Thread donsid
Was that the infamous dry place to sleep? Ah, the stuff of legends!
Sid

-- Original message -- 
From: dirt...@comcast.net 

 Hi Louise: 
 
 Barry Beck's dog and I tried to fit in the same corkscrew in Midnight - - - 
 - - 
 - 
 
 You sure that was not Crooked Thumb and Woola? I'm quite sure you were on the 
 same rainy Triangle weekend trip where the two dogs surprised some of the 
 locals 
 - . 
 
 Thumb was trained to wait until I was positioned in a chimney and then to 
 climb 
 up over me. Woola, ever the follower, was typically close behind. 
 
 Ahead I heard: 
 
 G-- D---!! There's a DOG in here!! 
 
 H -ly Sht!! 
 
 Here comes another one!! 
 
 Turned out it was some friends of Doc whats-his-name, the owner. 
 
 That was also the same trip where Everege showed up with 2 cases of $1 
 bottles 
 of remainder wine from his local discount emporium. We had a nose-in truck 
 roundup at the triangle, sitting on the hoods, sheltered by a motley 
 assortment 
 of tarps. I remember that you showed up in your V W to join the festivities, 
 and later crawled under Tortuga for a dry spot to sleep ---.. 
 
 Dirt Doc 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis County

2007-10-12 Thread Louise Power

Hi DD,
Sounds like the right trip.You're right.I think it was Woola who tried to share the corkscrew with me. It's been 30 years, after all, so my memory of the incidenttends to scopeout the general picture, rather than the particulars. BTW, it was Doc Harding.Ah...the good ol' days.
Louise




From:dirt...@comcast.netTo:"Louise Power" power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject:RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis CountyDate:Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:58:18 +Received:from alnrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.225.92]) by bay0-mc4-f10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:58:30 -0700Received:from amailcenter07.comcast.net ([204.127.225.107]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with SMTP id 20071012125819b1200n189se; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:58:30 +Received:from [71.184.239.26] by amailcenter07.comcast.net;Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:58:18 +Hi Louise:"Barry Beck's dog and I tried to fit in the same corkscrew in Midnight - - - - - 
-"You sure that was not Crooked Thumb and Woola? I'm quite sure you were on the same rainy Triangle weekend trip where the two dogs surprised some of the locals - .Thumb was trained to wait until I was positioned in a chimney and then to climb up over me.Woola, ever the follower, was typically close behind.Ahead I heard:"G-- D---!!There's a DOG in here!!""H -ly Sht!!""Here comes another one!!"Turned out it was some friends of Doc whats-his-name, the owner.That was also the same trip where Everege showed up with 2 cases of $1 bottles ofremainder wine from his local discount emporium.We had a nose-in truck roundup at the triangle, sitting on the hoods, sheltered by a motley assortment of tarps.I remember that you showed up in your V W to join the festivities, 
and later crawled under Tortuga for a dry spot to sleep ---..Dirt Doc


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RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis County

2007-10-12 Thread Louise Power
Not sure, but at the time we were all legends in our own minds.Louise


From: don...@comcast.netTo: dirt...@comcast.net, "Louise Power" power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis CountyDate: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:23:18 +MIME-Version: 1.0Received: from alnrmhc15.comcast.net ([206.18.177.55]) by bay0-mc8-f12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:23:32 -0700Received: from amailcenter10.comcast.net ([204.127.225.110]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc15) with SMTP id 20071012152322b1500i3f67e; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:23:32 +Received: from [98.199.249.14] by amailcenter10.comcast.net;Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:23:18 +
Was that the infamous "dry place to sleep"? Ah, the stuff of legends!
Sid

-- Original message -- From: dirt...@comcast.net  Hi Louise:   "Barry Beck's dog and I tried to fit in the same corkscrew in Midnight - - - - -  -"   You sure that was not Crooked Thumb and Woola? I'm quite sure you were on the  same rainy Triangle weekend trip where the two dogs surprised some of the locals  - .   Thumb was trained to wait until I was positioned in a chimney and then to climb  up over me. Woola, ever the follower, was typically close behind.   Ahead I heard:   "G-- D---!! There's a DOG in here!!"   "H -ly Sht!!"   "Here comes another one!!"   Turned out it was some friends of Doc 
whats-his-name, the owner.   That was also the same trip where Everege showed u p with 2 cases of $1 bottles  of remainder wine from his local discount emporium. We had a nose-in truck  roundup at the triangle, sitting on the hoods, sheltered by a motley assortment  of tarps. I remember that you showed up in your V W to join the festivities,  and later crawled under Tortuga for a dry spot to sleep ---..   Dirt Doc  -  Visit our website: http://texascavers.com  To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com  For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com  


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RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis County

2007-10-12 Thread Fritz Holt
Now we may all just be legion.

 

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From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:42 AM
To: don...@comcast.net; dirt...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] We took a reporter caving in Travis County

 

Not sure, but at the time we were all legends in our own minds.

Louise


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Was that the infamous dry place to sleep? Ah, the stuff of
legends!

Sid

 

-- Original message -- 
From: dirt...@comcast.net 

 Hi Louise: 
 
 Barry Beck's dog and I tried to fit in the same
corkscrew in Midnight - - - - - 
 - 
 
 You sure that was not Crooked Thumb and Woola? I'm
quite sure you were on the 
 same rainy Triangle weekend trip where the two dogs
surprised some of the locals 
 - . 
 
 Thumb was trained to wait until I was positioned in a
chimney and then to climb 
 up over me. Woola, ever the follower, was typically
close behind. 
 
 Ahead I heard: 
 
 G-- D---!! There's a DOG in here!! 
 
 H -ly Sht!! 
 
 Here comes another one!! 
 
 Turned out it was some friends of Doc whats-his-name,
the owner. 
 
 That was also the same trip where Everege showed u p
with 2 cases of $1 bottles 
 of remainder wine from his local discount emporium. We
had a nose-in truck 
 roundup at the triangle, sitting on the hoods,
sheltered by a motley assortment 
 of tarps. I remember that you showed up in your V W to
join the festivities, 
 and later crawled under Tortuga for a dry spot to
sleep ---.. 
 
 Dirt Doc 
 
 
 
 

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[Texascavers] OT - a geologic question

2007-10-12 Thread David Locklear
Disclaimer:

This e-mail was written under the influence of 2 table-spoons of
NyQuil, and one benzocaine throat lozenge )   No other mind enhancement
drugs, except maybe caffeine contributed to this.


Occasionally I see cartoon drawings of Hell showing stalagmites and
stalactites. I would like to analyze this phenomenon from the perspective
of someone who loves speleothems.


Are these limestone formations?or are they melted igneous rock?

The people in these cartoons are usually sweating, but they are still
alive, so the temperature must me around 140 degrees. Can limestone
form stalactites under these conditions? There is no water in Hell, right?

What purpose would having speleothems serve in Hell?   Are they for
decoration?Does any environment full of speleothems make your
visitation there more miserable?

I would deduce there is no limestone in Hell, therefore there are no
calcium-carbonate spelethems.

Certainly this description of Hell, is not a lava tube. It is a big room
full of speleothems.

Is there such a void near the mantle, where speleothems grow and
lava bubbles up?

Do cavers support the idea of having artwork describing Hell as a cave?
This would tend to associate cavers with demonic people. I sometimes
feel that non-cavers think cavers have some sort of connection to the
dark underworld.

I think most of the people that believe in a speleo-version of Hell, take
the side that Hell is very deep in the crust of the earth, so that would
rule out any limestone caves.

I assume the devil has no control of the the growth of speleothems in
his chambers.But he seems to be taking good care of them.   So
he can't be all bad, right?

I hope I will never learn the answer to this question.

David Locklear


Ref:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan_in_literature

The Comics Go to Hell: A Visual History of the Devil in Comics (by
Fredrik Stromberg, 360 pages, Fantagraphics Books, 2005, ISBN
1560976160)

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