[Texascavers] TCMA Garage Sale at TCR

[Linda Palit]

As you think about packing for TCR, remember to grab those extra items you
have wanted to get rid of.  Cave related and non-cave related items are
welcome, and we will issue tax receipts for donations.  We will accept
donations Friday and Saturday, and we will be selling items all day
Saturday. The TCMA tent and tables will be out with the other vendors, so
come by and visit.  

 

Thanks, and looking forward to seeing you, 

Linda 

[Texascavers] Book in the Works

[keith heuss]

We just recently started to compile data for an upcoming book tentatively named 
The Caves of Colorado Bend State Park published by the Colorado Bend State Park 
Cave and Karst Research Project and edited by Keith Heuss.  We are hoping to 
have it in store by Christmas 2007.  All profits from the book will support the 
Colorado Bend State Park Cave and Karst reesarch project.  This first issue 
will contain all of the maps that have been produced to date.

Call for Photographs

We are not going to publish more that 5 to 10 photographs in this preliminary 
issue.  If you have any good photographs for this edition or the second edition 
which will have many photographs, plese contact me at caverke...@yahoo.com.

Keith Heuss


   
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RE: [Texascavers] Bad Airman's

[Louise Power]

Russ said, re the 12,000 ft depth of Airman's: "Evidently, that would make it a roasty 197 degrees fahrenheit hotter in there..."Would this have anything to do with David Locklear's previous OT question about "hell in a cave"?


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[Texascavers] UT grotto meeting

[wesley s]

To everyone who has noticed and those who had no idea, the callendar is down on 
the website. This is not due to any technical difficulty but rather a security 
precaution in response to the recent flood of interest from the media about our 
organization and its members. For those on this list be advised that the 
meeting will be held at the same time and the same place.You are encouraged to 
come out to it since we will be discussing details about the following meeting 
that will be held on the 31st. The holloween meeting will not be held in the 
usual room and detailed directions to the location will only be given at the 
meeting on the 17th. So be there! 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Orionids Meteor Shower at TCR (Sunday AM, actually)

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Here's more details, and it's early Sunday AM:









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Dear Newsletter Subscriber, 

We hope you enjoy the article below – James Mullaney, former assistant editor 
at Sky & Telescope magazine and author of five book on stargazing, has shared 
some informative astronomy writings with us and we wanted to offer you the 
opportunity to read them!



The Orionid Meteor Shower 

The annual Orionid Meteor Shower will provide another fine display of celestial 
fireworks for skywatchers during the early morning hours of October 21st. The 
window of opportunity for having a dark sky in which to see these “shooting 
stars” occurs soon after the 9-day-old Moon goes down around 1:30 a.m. EDT and 
before the Sun comes up. So plan to head to bed early the night before and set 
your alarm accordingly; losing some sleep to get up in the wee hours for a 
meteor watch will definitely be well worth it! 

Given clear skies on the morning of October 21st, observers will be treated to 
one of the year’s most reliable displays of shooting stars — the Orionids. Peak 
activity occurs around 5 a.m. EDT, with as many as 25 meteors an hour being 
visible under good conditions. While not one of the richer showers, it’s 
radiant (the point from which the meteors appear to “shoot”) is located in a 
glorious part of the heavens — that of magnificent Orion! The actual point lies 
between Betelgeuse in the Hunter’s shoulder and (this year) nearby Mars, with 
both sentries glowing a brilliant ruddy-orange in hue. 

Observing shooting stars is basically a naked-eye activity in order to canvass 
as large an area of sky as possible. Meteors are typically best-seen some 
distance from the radiant itself, so facing in its direction and looking 
overhead gives the best results. (And reclining on a lawn chair certainly helps 
while doing so!) However, use of your binoculars from Edmund Scientific is also 
encouraged for following the fascinating drifting “smoke” trails (or trains) 
left by many of the brighter meteors. The Orionids are known for being very 
swift and for leaving trains behind them, so having a quick reaction-time is a 
real asset here!

At moonset on the 21st, Orion will already be high in the southeast and 
meteoric activity will increase throughout the early morning as the radiant 
continues to rise higher in the sky. But there’s also another more significant 
factor at play here. During the evening hours we’re on the side of the Earth 
“facing away” from the direction the meteors are coming and they have to “catch 
up” to us. But after midnight we’re turned into the direction of the radiant, 
causing the meteors to slam into the atmosphere at much higher speeds — 
resulting in many more of them being seen, and those that are seen to generally 
be brighter and more spectacular. So observing the Orionids in the early hours 
of the morning is doubly justified this year, with waiting for the Moon to set 
and for peak activity to occur before the Sun comes up.

As a point of interest, meteor showers result from our “Spaceship Earth” 
circling the Sun and running into streams of debris each year left behind by 
various comets in their orbits. In the case of the Orionids, their source is 
perhaps the most famous of all such objects — none other than Halley’s Comet 
itself! 

–James Mullaney
Former assistant editor at Sky & Telescope magazine and author of five books on 
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[Texascavers] Orionids Meteor Shower at TCR (almost)

[caverarch]

Assuming the weather is good.? The peak is Sunday night, but maybe there will 
be worthwile viewing on Saturday, as well.





Perseids

August 12 

New Moon 



Orionids

October 21

Evening gibbous 



Leonids

November 18

Evening gibbous 



Geminids

December 14

Evening crescent 





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[Texascavers] Bad Airman's

[Johnson, Russ (ATX)]

>>Bill B. said...Last night our local news said the [Airman's] cave was
12,000 feet below the surface... 
 
Evidently, that would make it a roasty 197 degrees fahrenheit hotter in
there...between the excessive temperature (ironically) and the
one-legged man (undoubtedly)...no wonder fire rescue co-opted Bill and
Julie.
 
>>Louise P. said...They left a leaf trail?

Obviously, they did not leaf a very good trail...can you beleaf these
folks?

Russ, fully.



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[Texascavers] Request from the TCR cooks to all those attending...

[Stefan Creaser]

We're fixin' to provide a great feast on Saturday night; but there are a
few things I want to tidy up before then.

1) Please bring your own plate, cutlery incl. a spoon and BOWL. We have
a soup-y dish, and dessert, for which the bowl and spoon would be
useful.

2) We would like to have a competition to see who can make the best
salsa (to go with all the chips we have). This will be held just before
the feast on Saturday evening when everyone is lining up! If you would
like to enter then please be prepared to make at least 1/2gal of salsa,
and let me know if you'd like to participate.

3) Does anyone have access to some Mesquite or other suitable wood to
power the cooker? Free is better than buying it...

4) Is anyone in the Austin area able to haul the large cooker down to
the TCR site for Friday or, at the latest, *early* Saturday morning and
bring it back Sunday?

I >think< that's all for the moment...

Cheers,
Stefan
(Head cook for TCR...)


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[Texascavers] RE: NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with Thai tragedy

[Minton, Mark]

  Stefan Creaser said:

>What exactly is an "experienced spelunker"?  Somewhere between a spelunker and 
>a caver, but closer to the latter?

  I doubt it.  Not after leaving a trail of leaves for rescuers to follow.  
How come they couldn't follow it themselves?

Mark Minton

[Texascavers] Airmans Cave Rescue

[Geary Schindel]

Interesting articles and video footage.  I'm not sure I would call them
experienced as they didn't seem to be caving with helmets.  Even in a
cave like Airmans, I assume you can bang your head and bleed all over
the cave.  So, they were probably fairly inexperienced and didn't know
better.  Looks like one of the best things you could add to a rescue bag
in an Airmans kind of rescue would be a couple of helmets, a set of
lights, and some knee and elbow pads.  It would probably make getting
out of the cave much quicker considering most of these incidents seem to
be lost, out of light, or worn out issues but would be a pain to carry
in.

 

This reminds me of a cave incident we had in Tennessee in 1988 or 89.
Three yahoos got stuck in Johnson Saltpeter Cave.  The yahoos went into
the cave the weekend before and stole a rope they found hanging in a pit
in the back of the cave.  This resulted in a very hairy climb out of the
pit for some friends of mine.  The yahoos went back a couple of weekends
later and used the rope to go down the pit.  However, they didn't know
how to climb out so they were stuck.  One of the women who didn't go
down the pit went for help.

 

I went out to help when the call out came and got mixed up with some of
the cave rescue yahoos with nice clean gear and not a lot of experience
- however, they had taken a number of NCRC courses and were therefore
experts.  (Now, I do think that the NCRC courses are very worthwhile and
would encourage anyone to take one, just remember, that doesn't make you
an expert).  Anyway, I volunteered to carry in some water and food for
the rescuers who were in the process of bringing the folks up the 30
foot drop.  I was told by the guy leading me into the cave that he had
completed Level III NCRC training and I wasn't to call the people victim
but patients, walk were he walked and don't do anything dangerous as
they didn't need another person to rescue.  It was interesting at that
time, as I had been on a number of cave incidents in WV and Kentucky
including helping run the Precinct 11 incident.  However, I didn't know
any of the folks running the rescue as they were all from east
Tennessee.   

 

The stuck cavers, once helped up the pit, were able to exit under their
own power but were cold, hungry, and tired after spending the night in
the cave.  When we reached the victims who were now up the pit and
starting to exit the cave, I asked my NCRC guide if the rescuers were
responsible for the care of the patients once they were contacted and he
said of course.  I then asked him if he every caved without a helmet and
he said no, that was dangerous and irresponsible.  I then asked him why
they were letting the yahoos exit the cave, which included a couple of
exposed climbs and traverses, without a helmet or helmet mounted light.
He didn't have a good answer for that one.  Anyway, hind sight is 40/40
or something like that.

 

The yahoos were charged with theft of property and made to do a bunch of
community service.

 

Anyway, glad the students stuck in Airmans cave got out OK and I'm sure
they will some day make fine cavers with a little help from the grotto.

 

Good work guys, sure it was a long day.

 

Geary

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Texascavers] NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with Thai tragedy

[Bill Bentley]

Last night our local news said the cave was 12,000 feet below the surface
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin McGowan 
  To: Texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with 
Thai tragedy


  I'm a bit late on the Airman's cave rescue..but does anyone know why the 
Statesman thought it necessary to post a map of the cave location?  

  I guess if it's a slow news day you can hopefully get someone else to  wander 
in and need rescue...?

  The authors posted their emails at the end of the article. hmmm


  KM





From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:45 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with 
Thai tragedy


What exactly is an "experienced spelunker"?  Somewhere between a spelunker 
and a caver, but closer to the latter? :-)

Stefan

PS. I promise to post something of substance soon...




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Article at:


http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/15/two-cave-tales-end-very-differently/?hp
 



 
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Re: [Texascavers] Airman's

[Dale Barnard]

I wonder if the recent media coverage of mine entrapments increased the
media's attention given to this rescue.

Dale

--- Julie Jenkins  wrote:

> Here's yet another link to a news story. A bit overblown, a little
> tooo big a deal but, it is what it is and it's over as far as rescue.
>  More stories and info at Wed. night's UT Grotto meeting.
> 
> http://www.kvue.com/video/local-index.html?nvid=183650
> Quita the reporter blows it a bit out of shape, there's a little
> mis-information but, hey it's the media and it seemed to be a very
> slow media day so this was picked up all over the country.
> 
> 
> 
> jules
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[Texascavers] RE: Naturalist Newsletter: Oct 15/ Off the Volcano

[Minton, Mark]

 Bill Mixon posted excerpts from Jim Conrad's Naturalist Newsletter that 
included:


The "cave exploration" part rests on the fact that nearby lies the Soconusco 
cave complex with more than 50 kilometers of caves, including three of the ten deepest 
vertical caves in Mexico.


 I wonder where he got his information!?  _None_ of the ten deepest caves in 
Mexico are in the state of Chiapas.  The deepest in Chiapas is indeed Soconusco, but 
it is number 32 on the list.  And he can't mean just deepest drops either, because 
only number 10 of the top ten is there, which is the 283-m-deep entrance pit of 
Sótano del Arroyo Grande, although numbers 11 and 12 are also there.  And Sistema 
Soconusco - Aire Fresco  is only 28 km long, followed by Cueva del Arroyo Grande at 
10 km.  Maybe if you added up all of the caves in the area you'd get over 50 km.  
Maybe I should write him a note and direct him to 
.

Mark Minton

RE: [Texascavers] NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with Thai tragedy

[Kevin McGowan]

I'm a bit late on the Airman's cave rescue..but does anyone know why the
Statesman thought it necessary to post a map of the cave location?  
 
I guess if it's a slow news day you can hopefully get someone else to
wander in and need rescue...?
 
The authors posted their emails at the end of the article. hmmm
 
 
KM



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From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:45 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with
Thai tragedy


What exactly is an "experienced spelunker"?  Somewhere between a spelunker
and a caver, but closer to the latter? :-)
 
Stefan
 
PS. I promise to post something of substance soon...

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RE: [Texascavers] NY Times Online blog contrast Austin rescue with Thai tragedy

[Stefan Creaser]

What exactly is an "experienced spelunker"?  Somewhere between a
spelunker and a caver, but closer to the latter? :-)
 
Stefan
 
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[Texascavers] Airman's

[Julie Jenkins]

Here's yet another link to a news story. A bit overblown, a little tooo big a 
deal but, it is what it is and it's over as far as rescue.  More stories and 
info at Wed. night's UT Grotto meeting.

http://www.kvue.com/video/local-index.html?nvid=183650
Quita the reporter blows it a bit out of shape, there's a little 
mis-information but, hey it's the media and it seemed to be a very slow media 
day so this was picked up all over the country.



jules

[Texascavers] Fwd: Naturalist Newsletter: Oct 15/ Off the Volcano

[Mixon Bill]

I am forwarding part of this periodic newsletter because it deals  
with a well-known caving area in Chiapas. Information on subscribing  
to the newsletter is at the end. It comes every week or so. Mostly  
it's about non-cave stuff (birds, flowers, etc), of course, but of  
interest to naturalists.--Bill Mixon


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From: j...@backyardnature.net
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Date: October 15, 2007 10:31:46 AM CDT
To: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
Subject: Naturalist Newsletter: Oct  15/ Off the Volcano
Reply-To: naturalist_newslet...@yourhostingaccount.com


OFF THE VOLCANO
On Thursday morning, October 4th, I catch a bus at
the entrance road to the park surrounding the
volcano known as Nevado Toluca, in central Mexico
west across a mountain range from Mexico City. The
rest of the day is spent busing across the cities
of Toluca and Mexico City. The distance doesn't
look great on a map but this is the second-largest
metropolitan area in the world, road organization
doesn't make much sense to a North American mind,
there are endless detours and surprises, and it
takes a while.

At 3:30 AM the next morning I awaken aboard a bus
entering Villahermosa in the state of Tabasco. In
past trips from the US to the Yucatan this was the
point at which my journey southward ended, I made a
U-turn eastward following the Gulf of Mexico's
southernmost shore, and began heading northward
into the Yucatan.

This time, however, as dawn approaches I let the
bus to Mérida leave without me. Instead I hike a
few blocks to the second-class bus terminal and buy
a ticket to a little town a couple of slow-bus
hours south of Villahermosa, to Pichucalco, in the
state of Chiapas. Chiapas is Mexico's southernmost
state, up next against Guatemala. Pichucalco is a
colorful little town lying at the base of Chiapas's
mountains, and entering those beautiful and
troubled mountains amounts to a major policy
decision for anyone, so most buses coming south
from Villahermosa don't run any farther south than
this.

The first seconds after stepping from the bus in
Pichucalco I know I'm in a completely different
cultural milieu from what I've experienced the last
year in Querétaro and before that in the Yucatán.
For one thing, the music blaring from nearby radios
is marimba -- perky music played on the free-
standing, wood-block musical instrument often
referred to as the xylophone. A tiny lady in a blue
dress carries an orange plastic bag out of which
arches the long, slender neck of an old, white hen,
looking backwards with a wide-eyed look on her face
saying she knows she'll never see that view again,
or maybe any other view at all.

The decibel level here is higher than farther
north, but homier in its various origins, less
industrial. People are more informal and outgoing.
Instead of calling me "Don" as in Querétaro
everyone calls me "Tío," which technically means
"Uncle," but effectively it's what you call any old
fellow you don't know what else to call, but you
feel like you need to call him something: "Tío,
wanna buy some pig cracklings?" "Tío, what're you
doing here?" "Tío, maybe you need a little drink?"
These people around the bus station are continually
cutting up, laughing hard, like kids on a
fieldtrip, but this is everyday real life for them
and, especially in this heavy heat and humidity, I
wonder how they maintain such an energy level and
good humor day after day.

After a big, beautiful two-dollar breakfast of eggs
scrambled with onions, tomatoes and chili, and
refried beans sprinkled with crumbly white cheese,
and all the fresh corn tortillas and red hot-sauce
dipped from a stone molcajete I can eat I enter a
small local bus with open windows you can hang out
of pointed upslope and we launch into a slow, gear-
grinding, stop-for-anyone-halfway-looking-like-
they-need-a ride trip all immersed in marimba music
into the Chiapas highlands.

Two or three hours later, in chilly, pine-scented
air, I disembark at an access road I know well from
a time before these Newsletters began and descend
to the gathering of buildings known as Yerba Buena,
which means "Good Herb."

*

YERBA BUENA
If you've read my online book "Yerba Buena: Word-
Snapshots from a Missionary Clinic in Southern
Mexico's Indian Territory," you already know about
Yerba Buena. The book, with pictures, can be
accessed at http://www.mexicanmercados.com/yb/
Sometimes in the late 70s or early 80s, I think, I
was wandering in the Chiapas highlands when I
stumbled upon Yerba Buena, a hospital clinic
offering basic medical care, often for free, to the
area's desperately poor Tzotzil-speaking indigenous
population. The clinic was operated by Seventh-Day
Adventists from the US. Despite my aversion to all
religions, I liked what the Adventists were doing.

In 1988 I returned for a few months, wrote a book
about Yerba Buena and the people it served, and
gave the manuscript to Yerba Buena administrators
with the understanding that income derived from
sale

[Texascavers] decomposition of limestone

[Mixon Bill]

Hmmm. Further research indicates that limestone (CaCO3) will indeed  
start decomposing and outgassing CO2 at 550C if it is in air with  
normal (very low) CO2 concentration. At higher CO2 backpressures, the  
temperature is higher. The traditional number of 825C (or 840 or  
whatever, depending on where you look) assumes the stuff is in a  
closed environment, such as a kiln, where the CO2 pressure will build  
up to a high value.

   Still, that's higher than the boiling point of sulfur.
   As the geothermal gradient is around 25C per kilometer, Hell  
can't be deeper underground than about 20 KM, or the lakes of burning  
brimstone would have evaporated away. Of course God, being  
omnipotent, could have arranged exceptions to all the rules.
   Can God make a rock so large He cannot move it? Of course: He's  
omnipotent. Can He move it? Of course,-- Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] Cave Rescue in Austin

[Louise Power]

It was even on the news out here in the PacNW. Leaves? They left a leaf trail?Louise 




From:  Lyndon Tiu To:  texascavers@texascavers.comSubject:  Re: [Texascavers] Cave Rescue in AustinDate:  Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:40:43 -0500MIME-Version:  1.0Received:  from raistlin.wokka.org ([69.56.185.90]) by bay0-mc8-f12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:40:53 -0700Received:  (qmail 33073 invoked by uid 89); 14 Oct 2007 22:40:57 -Received:  (qmail 33064 invoked by uid 31338); 14 Oct 2007 22:40:57 -Katherine Arens wrote:>http://www.kvue.com/Thanks for the link Katherine. Here is the more direct link to the 
article:http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/101407kvuemissinghikers-jj-mm.16cdbb782.htmlOn CNN.com:http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/14/texas.cave.rescue/index.html--Lyndon Tiu-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com


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[Texascavers] recycling at TCR

[Sam Young]

TCR attendees:

We will recycle aluminum cans and plastic bottles again this year.  I will set 
up a pair of containers at the Bexar Grotto camp and another near the dining 
area or cooks camp.  You can help by setting up a container in your own area 
and then transferring the contents to the recycling containers before leaving 
for home.  The material will be donated to Green Guy Recycling of San Marcos in 
appreciation for their donation of the containers.

Thanks, ... Sam

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[Texascavers] Can Hell be in limestone

[Mixon Bill]

Hell could be in limestone. The temperature of Hell cannot be higher  
than 444 degrees C, because that is the boiling point of brimstone.  
If the temperature were higher, there could be no lakes of burning  
brimstone. But limestone does not decompose from heat until about 825  
degrees C. Hence limestone and calcite formations would be stable in  
Hell. -- Mixon


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[Texascavers] Airman's Cave Rescue

[Scott]

Ok,

   Who wants to report on this.I know I saw Mike Sissom on TV.   

[Texascavers] Drew and Sloan Thompson please contact me

[Geary Schindel]

Drew and Sloan Thompson,

Can you guys email me directly, I need to get some information from you
guys about Punkin and Deep.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel


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Re: [Texascavers] RE: a geologic question

[bec_kar...@juno.com]

Can't speak for others, but lately the lava tubes Don and I have been hanging 
around in seem more heavenly than hellish :-) At least compared to some other 
caves. 
But I digress (if one can digress in this conversation).  And yes, lava tubes 
can be full of formations, ranging in colors from white to red to turquoise, 
and chocolate brown.  Way cool.

Barb Capocy


David Locklear said:
 
>Are these limestone formations?or are they melted igneous rock?
>Certainly this description of Hell, is not a lava tube. It is a big room 
>full of speleothems.

  Most of the depictions of Hell I have seen look like a cavern, but 
usually with rounded walls and ceiling, which could easily be a lava tube.  
Formations are certainly possible, because there are lava stalactites in many 
lava tubes.  Limestone does seem less likely.  ;-)
 





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[Texascavers] RE: a geologic question

[Minton, Mark]

 David Locklear said:


Are these limestone formations?or are they melted igneous rock?

Certainly this description of Hell, is not a lava tube. It is a big room 
full of speleothems.


 Most of the depictions of Hell I have seen look like a cavern, but usually 
with rounded walls and ceiling, which could easily be a lava tube.  Formations 
are certainly possible, because there are lava stalactites in many lava tubes.  
Limestone does seem less likely.  ;-)

Mark Minton

[Texascavers] TCR - Survey contest!

[David Ochel]

Hey y'all,

This year's TCR will feature a survey contest again, with prizes to win 
for the team with the best loop closure!


So, if you own instruments (and tape), bring them along. If you don't 
own any, we will have a limited number of loaner sets for you to use.


Cheers,
David

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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Weather Update

[Allan B. Cobb]

Greetings y'all!

The weather forecast for TCR this weekend look great!  The forecast calls 
for sunny and low 80s during the day and upper 50s at night.  Bring your 
swimsuits and bring a light jacket for night.  More updates to follow.


For more information on TCR, visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

See y'all there...

Allan 



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