[Texascavers] In Cave Digital Survey(ICDS) Equipment and the ICDS Process

[Mark Passerby]

Well I finally found some time today to put together an article on In Cave
Digital Survey(ICDS).  It details the equipment used and the ICDS Process.
It also contains links to Adobe Illustrator files for download for users of
Illustrator 9,10, or CS.

You can view the article online at:
http://incavedigitalsurvey.com/board/YaBB.pl?num=1205624025  or
http://tinyurl.com/yqbmro

For those interested in ICDS I recommend reading and viewing:
The Walls Manual especially the section on Roundtripping SVG Maps
http://www.cavediggers.com/walls32.pdf
and
Brandon Kowallis's Adobe Illustrator Tutorials at
http://incavedigitalsurvey.com/board/YaBB.pl?num=1192498613 or
http://tinyurl.com/2zpzks

Mark Passerby, InCaveDigitalSurvey.com

Re: [NMCAVER] Shetland Attack Pony

[DONALD G. DAVIS]

>John,
>
>I've been reading with some interest the discussion on the Cave Digger's 
>list about the supposedly great attributes of the Shetland Attack Pony 
>survey instrument.  Has one been used in Fort Stanton Cave?
>
>Lee

I've never heard of it before, and doubt that it's been used in 
FSC.  There's been no major survey work there since Snowy River in 2003.  
I was on three later minor surveys (Engel Hill breakdown, Helictite Hall 
dig, and Skyscraper Domes bone location) all of which used only Suunto 
compasses and inclinometers as far as I recall.
--Donald

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[NMCAVER] Fort Stanton Campground

[Steve Peerman]

Hi all!
	Please find attached a picture of the newly renovated Fort Stanton  
Campground.  I call your attention to the posts lining the parking  
areas.  This will prevent anyone from driving off the road
and parking on the grass below the road.  I'm a little disappointed  
in this development.  It will be difficult to hold regionals here in  
the future.



Steve Peerman

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things  
you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines,  
Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in you sails.  
Explore. Dream. Discover."
attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having  
written this.




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Re: [Texascavers] Re: New tour at NBC

[CWAN]

> The press is not interested in facts just sensationalism. Remember the
article about Robber Barron being the longest cave in the world. That
reporter was interviewing George Veni.

Mike Burrell

Wow Mark. Thanks so much for the kind words.
>
>
>
> If I got paid every time I was misquoted by the press, I wouldn't have to
> work for a commercial cave, much less work at all.
>
>
>
> You are correct. That is a crock. There are lots of places in North
> America with soda straws over 6 feet in length. Hell, I've taken pics
> of the straws in La Puenta ... talk about long soda straws!
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, what I told the reporter was that the soda straw he was
> looking at was 6 feet long. He asked if that was the longest, and I
> told him that it was not. We do have a soda straw which is 14 feet in
> length. It's located in the Fault Room. And it's among the longest in
> North America, because to be honest, I haven't made a recent survey of
> long soda straws in North America. I don't really know if ours is still
> the second longest. But saying "among the longest" is honest. So when
> that reporter asked the length of the longest soda straw and then
> misquoted me in the paper, well, that's part and parcel of dealing with
> the press.
>
>
>
> As far as the climate comment, man, you are correct again. That is the
> mother lode of BS!
> But, unfortunately once more, what I did say was that the caverns
> represented AN extensive library of
> climatic data. This has been confirmed by Dr. Jay Banner, of UT Austin,
> (one of those pesky geologists!) whose students have been working in
> our cave, and many others, for over 11 years. Their work has been
> instrumental in understanding what we present to our guests. Dr. Banner
> and I
> have talked at great lengths about the cave, and his work. Since I do not
> possess the scientific resources of a university, I am
> grateful to have a whole team of geologists helping me to further
> understand the place at which I work.
>
>
>
> So, thanks again for your comments about me, the cave for which I work,
> and some misquoted comments of an over-zealous reporter.
>
>
>
> Brian Vauter
>
> Cavern Geologist
>
> Natural Bridge Caverns, Inc.
>



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