[Texascavers] The July 2008 meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society
[Meeting Notice] Greetings cavers, cave people, troglodytes, and spelunkers, The regularly scheduled monthly meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society will be on Tuesday July 8th, 2008 at 7:00 PM. The July 2008 (295th) meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society will be on Tuesday July 8th, 2008, 7:00 PM in the back room at Murray's Deli which is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. Topics of discussion: Cave stuff? DUES! Hosting the Winter Regional? Summer cave dig someplace? T-Shirts? For further information contact an officer: Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net , Sharon Long sharon_long2...@yahoo.com , Karen Perry txcavem...@yahoo.com or Barry Hayes caveliz...@yahoo.com . PBSS web page: http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on January 18, 1984. The PBSS is an affiliated Grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society. National Speleological Society web page: http://www.caves.org/ Southwestern Region of the NSS web page: http://www.caves.org/region/swr/ Texas Speleological Association web page: http://www.cavetexas.org
[ot_caving] Alaska refinery
A thought on the refinery in Alaska. The short summer and other factors might make it not very cost efective to refine in Alaska. Also there are the ice fogs created by the power plants - it might be worse with a refinery. I have had to drive in it Ugg! Then the chance of a quake in the Anchorage area like the last one. There were large cracks in the earth as far up as Fairbanks. Then ther are permafrost melts under the roads and I would think it would make for a problem finding a place to build. You have to watch were you build a house and I have seen the road south out of Fairbanks have dips that were feet not inches from this.
[ot_caving] Re: Alaska refinery
That is a very good point. I wonder what the closest siesmic stable area there is closest to the port of Prince William Sound? The earthquake that occured back in 1964 (?) was one of the most energetic ever recorded! That will happen again, right? No one can tell when. When I was up there - there was still some evidence of the quake - like a tidal plain that once wasn't there and the persistent remains of some once stable log buildings. BTW - On the ABC news tonight they were talking about Coal into gasoline. Refineries in South Africa are producing crude from coal at a cost of $20 a barrel. Gasoline produced from coal is much cleaner than what comes from petroleum - too bad the processing creates so much CO2 - it seems like there has to be a way around that... -WaV On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:57 PM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: A thought on the refinery in Alaska. The short summer and other factors might make it not very cost efective to refine in Alaska. Also there are the ice fogs created by the power plants - it might be worse with a refinery. I have had to drive in it Ugg! Then the chance of a quake in the Anchorage area like the last one. There were large cracks in the earth as far up as Fairbanks. Then ther are permafrost melts under the roads and I would think it would make for a problem finding a place to build. You have to watch were you build a house and I have seen the road south out of Fairbanks have dips that were feet not inches from this.
Re: [ot_caving] Re: Alaska refinery
http://www.aeic.alaska.edu/Seis/Denali_Fault_2002/ I know some one who was there in 1964 and he is the one who told me about the Fairbanks area with large cracks and the 'slough' - 'creeks' to us that drained into them for quite a while. This one gives the line of the Denali which was the largest inland ever in the US. I know there were several small quakes in the Fairbanks area in about 1970 when I lived there that we noticed. The one below is a map which shows it is a mess all the way fro the west most islands across the bottom of Alaska to the line that curves down the north south edge of Canada and the other area of Alaska. http://www.aeic.alaska.edu/vltpage3.html Earthquakes of large magnitude occur at depth along the Aleutian Megathrust; the fault surface on which the Pacific Plate slides beneath Alaska as it is subducted into the earth's mantle. Earthquakes of small to large magnitude are also distributed throughout southeastern, southcentral, interior, and northern Alaska at shallower depths within the crust
