[Texascavers] spelunker t-shirt
Here is a t-shirt you can order on line. http://img.printfection.com/1/422/5093374/qEty1.jpg It doesn't have any graphics, but you could always add your own later. I wouldn't wear this shirt. Is it correct to say that someone is "100 % spelunker?" David Locklear
[Texascavers] Tyrolean Traverse video
I can recall rigging at least three tyrolean traverses in caves, but none were ever this long. >From TagNet: Tyrolean Traverse Video - What a scream! By: Scott Fee (Birmingham, Alabama) http://tiny.cc/KzikP This is an absolute hoot. This video features Anne Elmore (posted with her permission by the way) as she comes sailing across the Desoto Falls canyon. Anne is not very subdued in her excited emotional state so make sure you listen to the audio. Thanks again to the Huntsville Grotto and especially the Huntsville Grotto Cave Rescue Unit for making this possible - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] archives and help requested
I misunderstood how Google groups does a private list and Mark is correct, external email addresses can login to the groups and gain access. If anyone else wants to peruse the archives, please let me know. Any email address will work :) Charles On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Minton, Mark wrote: > Charles, > >>Everyone else, give me feedback (either on list or off) about the public >> archives. > I would love to have access to the TexasCavers archives. As you > pointed out, it is a great source of information when researching some topic > about caving in Texas or by Texas cavers. I have used Google Groups before, > as we have a couple set up here out East for Germany Valley and Hellhole. > They are private in the sense that you must be a member to read them, but > you do not have to have a gmail address. The latter seems like a strange > requirement. Shouldn't the granting of access via a registered email > address and password be enough to insure security? Anyway, please count me > in whenever you decide to open them up to wider participation. > > Mark Minton
Re: archives and help requested
Awesome On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Minton, Mark wrote: > Charles, > >>Let me know if that works, you will receive an invitation from Google >> groups to join it. > > I got it and it worked perfectly. I logged in with my existing Goggle > Groups email (not gmail) and password and was granted access to CaveTex > after answering a couple of setup questions. Thanks! > > Mark
RE: archives and help requested
Charles, >Let me know if that works, you will receive an invitation from Google groups >to join it. I got it and it worked perfectly. I logged in with my existing Goggle Groups email (not gmail) and password and was granted access to CaveTex after answering a couple of setup questions. Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] re: bats and wind power
This is not a simple issue. BCI has been working on this for 3 years now, and with no end in sight. Before there is a lot of rampant speculation on this list and the discussion devolves to religion, hippie chicks, LED lights, and driving mopeds to Florida for the NSS Convention, go to http://www.batsandwind.org/ for some basic reading and understanding. Keep in mind that this website is a good primer, but just shows the tip of the iceberg. -- Crash -Original Message- From: George-Paul Richmann [mailto:gprichm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:02 AM To: Dave H. Crusoe Cc: Gary Moss; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2008/07/interview-jerry-patterson.h tml?page=0%2C0 Is there any numbers on actual losses? Also, would there be a way to deter the bats through sound/light? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2008/07/interview-jerry-patterson.h tml?page=0%2C0
Is there any numbers on actual losses? Also, would there be a way to deter the bats through sound/light? On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Dave H. Crusoe wrote: > apparently though, the danger to bats is highest in the evening, when a) > bats are out, and b) the blades generate the least wind energy. So the > proposed solution has been to ask companies to disengage their turbines for > the evening hours... > > On Jul 15, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Gary Moss wrote: > >> >> >> An interesting line from the article "The early technology turbine blades >> that turned faster, at Altamont Pass, killed a lot of birds." At the last >> VA Cave Board meeting it was commented that bats had more problems with slow >> blades than the fast ones. >> >> Gary Moss >> >> >> At 10:21 AM 7/15/2008, Joe Ranzau wrote: >>> >>> This is caving related because of the bat kills caused by wind turbines. >>> >>> I'm not putting the story here because it's three pages and I'm not >>> inclined to take the time to cut and paste em all. >> >> >> - >> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com >> For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >> > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > -- George-Paul Richmann (513) 490-3100 gprichm...@gmail.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2008/07/interview-jerry-patterson.h tml?page=0%2C0
apparently though, the danger to bats is highest in the evening, when a) bats are out, and b) the blades generate the least wind energy. So the proposed solution has been to ask companies to disengage their turbines for the evening hours... On Jul 15, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Gary Moss wrote: An interesting line from the article "The early technology turbine blades that turned faster, at Altamont Pass, killed a lot of birds." At the last VA Cave Board meeting it was commented that bats had more problems with slow blades than the fast ones. Gary Moss At 10:21 AM 7/15/2008, Joe Ranzau wrote: This is caving related because of the bat kills caused by wind turbines. I'm not putting the story here because it's three pages and I'm not inclined to take the time to cut and paste em all. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2008/07/interview-jerry-patterson.h tml?page=0%2C0
An interesting line from the article "The early technology turbine blades that turned faster, at Altamont Pass, killed a lot of birds." At the last VA Cave Board meeting it was commented that bats had more problems with slow blades than the fast ones. Gary Moss At 10:21 AM 7/15/2008, Joe Ranzau wrote: This is caving related because of the bat kills caused by wind turbines. I'm not putting the story here because it's three pages and I'm not inclined to take the time to cut and paste em all. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: I also have e-mails archived Re: [Texascavers] archives and help requested
Thank you Nigel, I have about the same, however, Google groups won't let you import unfortunately. Charles On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Nigel Dyson-Hudson wrote: > Charles, I have saved all my CaveTex e-mails since I joined in Oct 2000. > Maybe a couple of spam were deleted. Nigel > > nigel dyson-hudson n...@cavesar.com www.cavesar.com > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons because you are crunchy and taste > good with Dinosaur BBQ barbecue sauce. > > You wrote on: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:52:04 -0500 > From: Charles Goldsmith e-mail: wo...@justfamily.org >> Archiving messages for posterity is always a challenge. Hard drive >> and computer crashes, changing of technology and natural disasters >> always creates havoc for computer administrators. >> >> Locklear posted about Google groups in the OT list and it reminded me >> that I needed to check on my archives again (Thanks David). I've been >> archiving our emails for eternity using Google groups using a little >> known feature of their system for a while now. >> >> It's setup as a private group, no one can view the emails without >> being a member of the Google group. I did this because Google isn't >> perfect about hiding email addresses from spam farmers. But, they are >> getting much better at it. >> >> I would like to make the archives public, so that cavers and >> non-cavers can search them (without losing our email addresses), but >> would like some feedback. >> >> Is this something that the general public would like? Would it be a >> service for researchers to easily search Texas caving information? >> >> I need a few volunteers (more the merrier) that have Gmail addresses, >> or people willing to sign up for one, to read through the archives a >> bit, let me know how Google is doing about hashing email addresses. I >> know some of the older email addresses didn't hash, and I've removed >> the ones that I've seen, but I need a few critical eyes to help. For >> now, you can't view the archives without a gmail address, since its a >> private archive for now. >> >> Plus, its quite fun to read some of the older messages. >> >> If anyone is interesting in helping, contact me off list. Everyone >> else, give me feedback (either on list or off) about the public >> archives. >> >> Charles, the not quite so quiet list owner this week
I also have e-mails archived Re: [Texascavers] archives and help requested
Charles, I have saved all my CaveTex e-mails since I joined in Oct 2000. Maybe a couple of spam were deleted. Nigel nigel dyson-hudson n...@cavesar.com www.cavesar.comDo not meddle in the affairs of dragons because you are crunchy and taste good with Dinosaur BBQ barbecue sauce. You wrote on: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:52:04 -0500 From: Charles Goldsmith e-mail: wo...@justfamily.org > Archiving messages for posterity is always a challenge. Hard drive > and computer crashes, changing of technology and natural disasters > always creates havoc for computer administrators. > > Locklear posted about Google groups in the OT list and it reminded me > that I needed to check on my archives again (Thanks David). I've been > archiving our emails for eternity using Google groups using a little > known feature of their system for a while now. > > It's setup as a private group, no one can view the emails without > being a member of the Google group. I did this because Google isn't > perfect about hiding email addresses from spam farmers. But, they are > getting much better at it. > > I would like to make the archives public, so that cavers and > non-cavers can search them (without losing our email addresses), but > would like some feedback. > > Is this something that the general public would like? Would it be a > service for researchers to easily search Texas caving information? > > I need a few volunteers (more the merrier) that have Gmail addresses, > or people willing to sign up for one, to read through the archives a > bit, let me know how Google is doing about hashing email addresses. I > know some of the older email addresses didn't hash, and I've removed > the ones that I've seen, but I need a few critical eyes to help. For > now, you can't view the archives without a gmail address, since its a > private archive for now. > > Plus, its quite fun to read some of the older messages. > > If anyone is interesting in helping, contact me off list. Everyone > else, give me feedback (either on list or off) about the public > archives. > > Charles, the not quite so quiet list owner this week
Re: archives and help requested
Mark, restricting to only gmail addresses was I thought a requirement to read the web archives if it was a private group. Obviously I am mistaken and will add your email address. Let me know if that works, you will receive an invitation from Google groups to join it. Also, let me know if you have questions please. Thanks! Charles On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Minton, Mark wrote: > Charles, > >>Everyone else, give me feedback (either on list or off) about the public >> archives. > I would love to have access to the TexasCavers archives. As you > pointed out, it is a great source of information when researching some topic > about caving in Texas or by Texas cavers. I have used Google Groups before, > as we have a couple set up here out East for Germany Valley and Hellhole. > They are private in the sense that you must be a member to read them, but > you do not have to have a gmail address. The latter seems like a strange > requirement. Shouldn't the granting of access via a registered email > address and password be enough to insure security? Anyway, please count me > in whenever you decide to open them up to wider participation. > > Mark Minton
[Texascavers] http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2008/07/interview-jerry-patterson.html?page=0%2C0
This is caving related because of the bat kills caused by wind turbines. I'm not putting the story here because it's three pages and I'm not inclined to take the time to cut and paste em all.
RE: archives and help requested
Charles, >Everyone else, give me feedback (either on list or off) about the public >archives. I would love to have access to the TexasCavers archives. As you pointed out, it is a great source of information when researching some topic about caving in Texas or by Texas cavers. I have used Google Groups before, as we have a couple set up here out East for Germany Valley and Hellhole. They are private in the sense that you must be a member to read them, but you do not have to have a gmail address. The latter seems like a strange requirement. Shouldn't the granting of access via a registered email address and password be enough to insure security? Anyway, please count me in whenever you decide to open them up to wider participation. Mark Minton
RE: [Texascavers] EspeleoCoahuila
Thanks for the link, Mike. Very nice photos and you have an excellent website. Well done! Mark A. -Original Message- From: m...@mpphoto.ws [mailto:m...@mpphoto.ws] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:34 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] EspeleoCoahuila My group found some small tectonic caves the first day and were led on a crazy goose chase the second day to a large shelter cave full of bees. We mapped out the 2-3 neat little caves we had found, the largest being about 30m long (which we named Cherry) Some of those from the other teams will have to give a more detailed report on their finds (some of them were really cool). I've got photos from both days online at www.mpphoto.ws (Link is on the bottom) It rained almost every day but the mountains were absolutely beautiful and the views were fantastic! Not too bad for my first caving trip to Mexico. -Mike - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
